The Al Realpolitik Institute of Sulfur Mining & Extraction

[Oakvale]

So I suppose you're a Thatcherite on the coal mine issue?

The coal mine issue? What was 'the coal mine issue', exactly?

Well since you appear to believe that the taxation and spending policies of the Soviet Union were sound, I presume you either believe that central planning and/or state-owned enterprises were "the features that guaranteed eventual disaster," so presumably you either believe that coal mining should not be centrally planned or that it should be privatized.

Are you an irredeemable idiot for real or are you just pretending to be one for the purposes of trolling?

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No doubt, youngs today are stupider than ever before.

If you don't want to do any thinking at all, why even post here? I get that lamenting the inevitable moral decay of society from some invented past is your thing, but that statement was unusually vapid and sophomoric even by those standards.

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The possibility exists that the world may not now be and may not twenty-nine years ago have been entirely divided into Ronald Reagans and Command and Conquer villains.

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Well, 'a Person', the fact remains that you and your assumptions were completely wrong.  I accept your apology, but in future, spend more time playing with your My Little Pony dolls instead and leave the internet detective work to people who know what they're talking about.

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Those two don't get on, do they?

I have no idea what the root cause of it is, but the fallout's quite entertaining.

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This raises the interesting question of how on earth Krazen hasn't been banned yet? Is it that difficult to accumulate the necessary death points by merely being highly unpleasant and snide?

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An excellent deconstruction of sage:

Snowstalker, every aspect of your personality (particularly your political views, since you choose to define yourself that way, but also other qualities as well) is an affectation designed to project a certain image of yourself to the world. That in itself isn't inherently concerning, since all of us are guilty of that to some extent, but what is a problem is that the image that you choose to project is completely odious.

Everything you say is meant to demonstrate your superiority over other people. It's attracted attention from others in your newest far-right phase, since that's so nakedly hateful, but it's also the common thread running through your xenophobia and your cogendism and your Marxism for Dummies. You try to frame it in terms of caring about other people, because that makes you feel better about it, but it's never been about those people. It's always been about being better than the barbaric foreigners or the evil capitalists or the ignorant proles.

I can understand that when you've always been told growing up that you're gifted or special, it's easy to internalize that and feel like you're better than other people. I've certainly had that problem in the past, and often I have to work at making sure that I perceive other people as being just the same as me and act accordingly. But the key there is that I recognize the problem and try to deal with it; I don't waste my time in self-indulgent flights of fancy and then at the same time wonder why people don't like me. Self-assurance is nice, and you have plenty of that, but it's useless without self-awareness, and that's what you lack.

I don't expect more than a flippant one- or two-sentence response (if that), so really this post isn't for you, but I'm putting it out here anyway. I hope that someday if you do gain some self-awareness you'll be able to look back at it and find something of value.

What is 'sage'?

It refers to Snowstalker's tendency to take very simple positions on very complicated issues all the while acting with a sense of affected moral superiority and intellectual enlightenment despite the fact that he wildly fluctuates between the far-left, far-right and everything in between on a near-weekly basis. It's about the sheer shallowness and inanity of whatever his flavour of the week political phase is.

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And of course the Obamabots rush to defend their messiah's Heritage Foundation plan. Obamacare is an utter joke, an insult to advocates of actual health care reform (i.e. nationalization) and I hope it fails. The neoliberal cancer needs to be exterminated, even if cutting it off may hurt.

The casual sociopathy of sheltered rich kids who'll never have to worry about losing their health insurance.

It's a bit rich to be mocking the casual sociopathy of sheltered rich kids whilst promoting 15% flat tax and the most regressive tax there is (VAT/sales tax). But I'm sure that's credible and serious discussion to all the liberals on here.

Obviously Obama's health plan is better than nothing, but it's one of those remorselessly unambitious plans (Heritage Foundation guaranteed) that kill off any hopes for a real reform (or in this case, a healthcare system).

I understand this might come as some surprise to the Leftist Perpetual Outrage Machine of which you're apparently a part, but I don't genuinely support replacing progressive income taxes with a flat tax, no. I'm not American - as Antonio recognised in that thread anyone remotely familiar with my "political views" would know I'm not some kind of laissez-faire psychopath and was merely making a comment about the infantile nature of a thread about "Your Tax Policy" as if we're candidates for office. A VAT is different and is good public policy, though, and calling it "the most  regressive tax" there is a poor excuse for political argument.

Snowstalker's tiresome True Leftist act is only possible because he's wealthy enough that he wouldn't be affected at all by the "collapse" of Obamacare he's hoping for, much like when he openly admitted he was looking forward to another Great Depression because it would awaken the proletariat to socialism or some such nonsense.

The idea that Real Reform is only possible as an all-or-nothing measure is one of the dumbest things that the Left believes. If Obamacare hadn't passed you wouldn't see Real Reform. You wouldn't see healthcare reform for another decade at minimum. At most the next Democratic President might try to provide health benefits for poor kids or something. Maybe.

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I say this with nothing but love of course but the phrase "advanced moral development" makes my skin crawl I have to admit.

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I'm surprised it took that long for that comment to be made.

Yeah, I thought it was the obvious response.

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I'm really kind of surprised that "the Thatcher/Reagan reforms of the 80s were hamfistedly and oftentimes sociopathically implemented but ultimately necessary" is apparently some kind of edgy troll position to take.

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I'm really kind of surprised that "the Thatcher/Reagan reforms of the 80s were hamfistedly and oftentimes sociopathically implemented but ultimately necessary" is apparently some kind of edgy troll position to take.

You can make that argument, but even if, not sure how Reagan is in any way necessary. You could have gotten the reforms without the idiocy and recklessness of Reagan.

There's also the less quantifiable argument that the goofy optimism and nationalist swagger of a Reagan was necessary on a psychological level after the malaise of the Nixon-Carter-Ford era.

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Darn it, I punched the wrong hole and voted for Pat Buchanan!

ROFLOL!!!!!!

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Context:

Did you clutch your lapels when you wrote that?

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There are people that don't know how to swim at 30?

For someone who claims to be such a champion of the poor and marginalized, you clearly don't know very many.

Go fuck yourself. I work four jobs, spend every dollar I make, and have little free time on account of it. I work with plenty of people who do the same. So get off your high horse with this pedantic bullsh**t 'hurr TNF doesn't know poor people because he doesn't know there are people who don't know how to swim derp'.

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Trots smh