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SirNick
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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Reply #50 on:
May 12, 2011, 10:58:18 am »
9:00pm
An even larger slew of states close with Arkansas, New York, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Louisiana, Nebraska, remainder of South Dakota, remainder of Kansas, remainder of North Dakota, remainder of Texas, Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado, Rhode Island and Wyoming.
Blitzer:
We are ready to call New York, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Rhode Island for Governor Spitzer. Arkansas, Louisiana, Nebraska, South Dakota, Kansas, Texas, Arizona, New Mexico and Wyoming will go for Governor Martinez.
Carville:
California has been close in polling but the last time it voted Republican was 1988. If Governor Spitzer wins California, which I think he will, he will only be 19 electoral votes short of the Presidency. If he takes home Oregon and Wisconsin at the same time, this election will be over.
Tucker Carlson (who apparently is now on CNN):
I'm not sure James. Martinez has done a great job mobilizing the Hispanic vote and trying to win them over. This is the first Hispanic and female Presidential nominee of a major party --not to mention first Hispanic Vice Presidential nominee on both tickets. I think this certainly gives Martinez an advantage.
Spitzer/Masto: 196 EV
Martinez/Rubio: 158 EV
Not called - 72 EV
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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Reply #51 on:
May 12, 2011, 11:10:19 am »
9:46pm:
Blitzer:
We are now able to call a few more states -- with 80% of precincts reporting in Indiana we can call it for Governor Spitzer. This is the third election in a row Indiana has gone Democratic. At this time we can also call Colorado and North Dakota for Governor Martinez and Tennessee for Governor Spitzer.
Missouri, Virginia and North Carolina remain too close to call.
10:00pm:
Nevada, Utah, Iowa, some of Idaho and Montana close.
Blitzer:
We can now call Utah and Montana for Governor Martinez. Iowa will go for Governor Spitzer.
11:00pm: Blitzer:
I'm sorry to tell everyone that tonights election will go well into tomorrow from our best guesses. California is too close to call which is a very bad sign for Governor Spitzer. California, normally goes strongly Democratic, is too close to call. We can say that Idaho will go for Governor Martinez while Spitzer picks up Missouri and Virginia.
Spitzer/Masto: 250 Electoral Votes
Martinez/Rubio: 186 Electoral Votes
Not Called (Green): 102 Electoral Votes
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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May 12, 2011, 11:24:17 am »
12:00am Wednesday November 9, 2016
Blitzer:
In the past hour we have been able to call Hawaii, unusually, and Alaska for Governor Martinez. Oregon, Washington and California all remain close. We can now call Nevada for Governor Spitzer who's running mate is from the state...
1:00am
Oregon and Washington will both go to Governor Martinez in a rare Republican victory on the west coast. Both of these states last went Republican in 1984 for President Reagan.
2:00am
RETURNS:
CALIFORNIA:
PRECINCTS: 67%
SPITZER: 3,902,354
MARTINEZ: 3,901,355
TOTAL: 7,804,709
NORTH CAROLINA:
PRECINCTS: 89%
SPITZER: 1,705,438
MARTINEZ: 1,706,217
TOTAL: 3,411,655
Carville:
If Governor Spitzer wins either state tonight then he will be the next President of the United States...Governor Martinez needs to win both California and North Carolina...
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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Reply #53 on:
May 12, 2011, 11:39:56 am »
7am:
Blitzer:
It is with great hesitancy we make this call --everyone here is surprised by this outcome but we can now say that Governor Susana Martinez will carry the state of California...we can also now say that if Martinez carries North Carolina it will be the fourth time in history where the winner of the popular vote has lost the Electoral College. That is correct, we can say that Governor Spitzer has won the popular vote tonight.
Martinez/Rubio - 267 Electoral Votes
Spitzer/Masto - 256 Electoral Votes
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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Reply #54 on:
May 12, 2011, 12:00:47 pm »
unlikely... but, anyways, good Election Night TL
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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Reply #55 on:
May 12, 2011, 12:39:35 pm »
Governor Spitzer and Governor Martinez have both cancelled their public appearances today. Spitzer's campaign has released a statement saying "We thank the American people for their confidence and Governor Spitzer calls on Governor Martinez to get out of the race. There is no reason why the will of the American people should be ignored."
Governor Martinez vows to stay in the race saying "this is what the Founding Fathers designed to elect the President and I plan to abide by it."
11am:
North Carolina:
Precincts: 98%
Martinez: 1,896,301
Spitzer: 1,891,936
An automatic recount is likely to ensue...
November 8, 2016
The Presidential election of 2016 is still unsolved. The final count for North Carolina has Governor Spitzer in the lead but due to an automatic recount no one is calling the election yet.
Spitzer/Masto: 1,916,700
Martinez/Rubio: 1,916,023
The nation waits until December 1 when the results of the recount are announced...with 41 votes separating the candidates and the Presidency...
Spitzer/Masto: 1,916,242
Martinez/Rubio: 1,916,203
The win in North Carolina would bring Spitzer to 271 Electoral Votes --a majority in the Electoral College.
After a day, Governor Martinez states that "although the results are disappointing, I will not challenge the will of the American people."
Governor Eliot L. Spirtzer/Senator Catherine C. Masto - 271 Electoral Votes, 51.49% Popular Vote; 67,420,491 votes.
Governor Susana Martinez/Senator Marco Rubio - 267 Electoral Votes, 47.5% Popular Vote; 62,209,945 votes.
Other - 1,309,443 votes (~1%)
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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Reply #56 on:
May 12, 2011, 01:27:56 pm »
Senate Results:
Hawaii: Daniel Inouye wins a 10th term. He is 92 years old. (Democratic hold)
California: Kamala D. Harris wins a Senate seat. (Democratic hold)
Colorado: Michael Bennet loses to former Lt. Governor Jane Norton (Republican pick up)
Connecticut: Richard Blumenthal retires after one term as Senator. Former Governor John G. Rowland wins the race to succeed him. (Republican pick up)
Maryland: Barbara Mikulski is re-elected. (Democratic hold)
Nevada: Harry Reid decides to retire, John Huck wins his seat (Republican pick up)
New York: Chuck Schumer wins another term (Democratic hold)
Oregon: Ron Wyden wins another term (Democratic hold)
Vermont: Mayor Mary Hooper wins the seat (Democratic hold)
Washington: Patty Murray wins another term (Democratic hold)
Oklahoma: Dewey F. Bartlett Jr. wins a term. (Republican hold)
South Carolina: Lt. Gov Ken Ard wins the seat (Republican hold)
Alabama: Richard Shelby wins a sixth term (Republican hold)
Kentucky: Rand Paul loses his reelection bid to Daniel Mongiardo (Democratic pick up)
Alaska: Lisa Murkowski wins a third term (Republican hold)
Arizona: Meghan McCain, who was appointed to here late fathers Senate seat, wins a full term of her own. (Republican hold)
Arkansas: John Boozman wins reelection (Republican hold)
Florida: Rubio wins reelection while simultaneously running for the Vice Presidency (Republican hold)
Georgia: Iskakson wins reelection (Republican hold)
Idaho: Crapo wins reelection (Republican hold)
Illinois: Mark Kirk wins reelection (Republican hold)
Indiana: Dick Mourdock wins election to the Senate (Republican hold)
Iowa: Bruce Braley wins election (Democratic pick up)
Kansas: Moran wins reelection (Republican hold)
Louisiana: Vitter loses reelection to Rep. Cedric Richmond (Democratic pick up)
Missouri: Blunt wins reelection (Republican hold)
New Hampshire: Ayotte wins reelection (Republican hold)
North Carolina: Burr narrowly loses reelection to Charlotte Mayor Anthony Foxx (Democratic pick up)
North Dakota: Hoeven wins reeleciton (Republican hold)
Ohio: Rob Portman wins reelection (Republican hold)
Pennsylvania: Toomey wins reelection (Republican hold)
South Dakota: Thune wins reelection (Republican hold)
Utah: Lee wins reelection (Republican hold)
Wisconsin: Ron Johnson loses to Ron Kind (Democratic pick up)
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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Reply #57 on:
May 12, 2011, 02:03:41 pm »
Senate Composition 2017 - 2019
Red = Two Democratic Senators
Blue = Two Republican Senators
Light Blue/Light Red - One vacancy and one Senator of that color's party
Green = One Democratic, One Republican Senator
United States Senate:
Democrats: 52 (+1)
Republican: 45 (-1)
Vacant: 3 (Orrin Hatch of Utah passed away as well as Bernie Sanders of Vermont. Catherine Masto of Nevada resigned her seat to ascend the Vice Presidency.)
House of Representatives:
Democrats: 219 (+10)
Republicans: 216 (-10)
Senate:
Alaska: Mark Begich (D.)
Lisa Murkowski (R.)
Alabama: Jeff Sessions (R.)
Richard Shelby (R.)
Arizona: Meghan McCain (R.)
Rodney Glassman (D.)
Arkansas: John Boozman (R.)
Mark Pryor (D.)
California: Dianne Feinstein (D.)
Kamala Harris (D.)
Colorado: Mark Udall (D.)
Jane Norton (R.)
Connecticut: Alec Baldwin (D.)
John Rowland (R.)
Delaware: Chris Coons (D.)
Tom Carper (D.)
Florida: Bill Nelson (D.)
Marco Rubio (R.)
Georgia: Saxy Chambliss (R.)
Iskakson (R.)
Hawaii: Daniel Inouye (D.)
Ed Case (D.)
Idaho: Mike Crapo (R.)
Brad Little (R.)
Illinois: Dick Durbin (D.)
Mark Kirk (R.)
Indiana: Richard Lugar (R.)
Richard Mourdock (R.)
Iowa: Bruce Braley (D.)
Tom Latham (R.)
Kansas: Moran (R.)
Derek Schmidt (R.)
Kentucky: Daniel Mongiardo (D.)
Mitch McConnell (R.)
Louisiana: John Dardenne (R.)
Cedric Richmond (D.)
Maine: Chandler Woodcock (D.)
John Baldacci (D.)
Maryland: Barbara Mikulksi (D.)
Ben Cardin (D.)
Massachusetts: John Kerry (D.)
Setti Warren (D.)
Michigan: Jennifer Granholm (D.)
Debbie Stabenow (D.)
Minnesota: Al Franken (D.)
Amy Klobuchar (D.)
Mississippi: Roger Wick (R.)
That Cochran (R.)
Missouri: Roy Blunt (R.)
Sarah Steelman (R.)
Montana: Rick Hills (R.)
Marc Racicot (R.)
Nebraska: Mike Johanns (R.)
Jon Bruning (R.)
Nevada: Vacant
John Huck (R.)
New Hampshire: Jeanne Shaheen (D.)
Kelly Ayotte (R.)
New Jersey: Bob Menendez (D.)
Corey Booker (D.)
New Mexico: Martin Heinrich (D.)
Tom Udall (D.)
New York: Charles Schumer (D.)
Steve Israel (D.)
North Carolina: Anthony Foxx (D.)
Kay Hagan (D.)
North Dakota: Heidi Heitkamp (D.)
John Hoeven (R.)
Ohio: Sherrod Brown (D.)
Rob Portman (R.)
Oklahoma: Dewey Bartlett (R.)
Todd Labm (R.)
Oregon: Jeff Merkley (D.)
Ron Wyden (D.)
Pennsylvania: Bob Casey (D.)
Pat Toomey (R.)
Rhode Island: Jack Reed (D.)
Sheldon Whitehouse (D.)
South Carolina: Lindsey Graham (R.)
Ken Ard (R.)
South Dakota: John Thune (R.)
Kristi Noem (R.)
Tennessee: Bob Corker (R.)
Lamar Alexander (R.)
Texas: Elizabeth Jones (R.)
John Crnyn (R.)
Utah: Mike Lee (R.)
Vacant
Vermont: Vacant
Mary Hooper (D.)
Virginia: Tim Kaine (D.)
Mark Wanrer (D.)
Washington: Maria Cantwell (D.)
Patty Murray (D.)
West Virginia: Carte Goodwin (D.)
Joe Manchin (D.)
Wisconsin: Ron Kind (D.)
Tammy Baldwin (D.)
Wyoming: Barrasso (R.)
Colin Simpson (R.)
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Reply #58 on:
May 12, 2011, 03:05:39 pm »
Governors as of January 2017
Democrats: 20
Republicans: 29
Independent: 1
Term Expires January 2019 (Next Election 2018)
Alaska: Sean Parnell (R.)
Arizona: Phil Gordon (D)
Arkansas: Rick Crawford (R.)
California: Gavin Newsom (D.)
Colorado: John Hickenlooper (D)
Connecticut: Dan Malloy is reelected (D)
Georgia: Lowell Casey Cagle (R.)
Florida: Rick Scott (R.)
Hawaii: Mufi Mannemann (D)
Idaho: Republican (R.)
Illinois: Peter Roskam (R.)
Iowa: Kim Reynolds (R.)
Kansas: Sam Brownback wins reelection (R.)
Maine: Chellie Pingree (D)
Maryland: Anthony Brown (D)
Massachusetts: Scott Brown (R.)
Michigan: Virgil Bernero (D)
Minnesota: Mark Dayton (D.)
Nebraska: David Heineman (R.)
Nevada: Brian Sandoval (R.)
New Hampshire: Ovide Lamontagne (R.)
New Mexico: Susana Martinez (R.)
New York: Andrew Cuomo is elected (R.)
Ohio: Tim Ryan (D)
Oklahoma: Mary Fallin (R.)
Oregon: John Kroger wins election (D)
Pennsylvania: Tom Cortbett (R.)
Rhode Island: Lincoln Chafee (I)
South Carolina: Nikki Haley (R.)
South Dakota: Dennis Daugaard (R.)
Tennessee: Bill Haslam (R.)
Texas: Chet Edwards (D)
Utah: Republican
Vermont: Peter Shumlins (D)
Wisconsin: Paul Soglin (D
Wyoming: Matt Mead (R.)
Term Expires January 2018 (Election 2017)
Louisiana: Republican (R.)
New Jersey: Chris Christie (R)
Virginia: Donald Beyer (D)
Term Expires January 2021 (Election 2020)
Delaware: Matthew Denn (D)
Indiana: Mike Pence (R.)
Missouri: Peter Kinder (R.)
Montana: Steve Bullock (D)
New Hampshire: Jim Bouley (D)
North Carolina: Deborah Ross (D)
North Dakota: Drew Wrigley (R.)
Vermont: Phillip Scott (R.)
Washington: Greg Nickels
West Virginia: Jim Addy (R.)
Mississippi: Phil Bryant (R.)
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Reply #59 on:
May 12, 2011, 03:30:49 pm »
January 20, 2017 - Governor Eliot L. Spitzer is inaugurated as President of the United States. Catherine Masto is inaugurated as Vice President of the United States.
President Obama leaves office with a 53% approval rating, 6.5% unemployment and with more than a trillion dollar deficit.
Vice President of the United States
Catherine Cortez Masto
Department of State
Secretary Jack Reed (Approved unanimously by voice vote)
Department of the Treasury
Secretary Austan Golsbee (67-33)
Department of Defense
Secretary Mark Kirk (Approved unanimously by voice vote)
Department of Justice
Attorney General Russ Feingold (77-23)
Department of the Interior
Secretary Brian Schweitzer (Approved unanimously by voice vote)
Department of Agriculture
Secretary Steve Beshear (53-47)
Department of Commerce
Secretary Christine Gregoire (77-23)
Department of Labor
Secretary Seth Harris (Approved unanimously by voice vote)
Department of Health and Human Services
Secretary Michael Bennett (Approved unanimously by voice vote)
Department of Housing and Urban Development
Secretary Michael Bloomberg (Approved unanimously by voice vote)
Department of Transportation
Secretary Ed Rendell (90-2-6)
Department of Energy
Secretary Arnold Schwarzenegger (Approved unanimously by voice vote)
Department of Education
Secretary Dr. John Deasy (87-13)
Department of Veterans Affairs
Secretary Admiral Robert J. Papp, Jr. (65-35)
Department of Homeland Security
Secretary Martin O'Malley (70-25-5)
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Reply #60 on:
May 12, 2011, 08:21:59 pm »
Arnold's back!
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May 12, 2011, 08:24:39 pm »
By the way, those are some damn weird election results. Just because it's two hispanics versus one, in my book, doesn't mean that California's gonna go Republican, especially before Nevada goes Republican.
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Quote from: South Side of the Sky on May 12, 2011, 08:24:39 pm
By the way, those are some damn weird election results. Just because it's two hispanics versus one, in my book, doesn't mean that California's gonna go Republican, especially before Nevada goes Republican.
Trying to make it interesting.
It's certainly possible.
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Quote from: sirnick on May 13, 2011, 09:19:56 am
Quote from: South Side of the Sky on May 12, 2011, 08:24:39 pm
By the way, those are some damn weird election results. Just because it's two hispanics versus one, in my book, doesn't mean that California's gonna go Republican, especially before Nevada goes Republican.
Trying to make it interesting.
It's certainly possible.
It may be possible in 30-40 years, but certainly not in 2016.
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Quote from: Paul 2012 on May 13, 2011, 11:41:41 am
Quote from: sirnick on May 13, 2011, 09:19:56 am
Quote from: South Side of the Sky on May 12, 2011, 08:24:39 pm
By the way, those are some damn weird election results. Just because it's two hispanics versus one, in my book, doesn't mean that California's gonna go Republican, especially before Nevada goes Republican.
Trying to make it interesting.
It's certainly possible.
It may be possible in 30-40 years, but certainly not in 2016.
Looking at the map for the first time, I was thinking "there's something off. What is it? It looks normal, but something seems weird", then I noticed the Republicans got the West Coast.
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May 13, 2011, 06:40:11 pm »
Quote from: South Side of the Sky on May 13, 2011, 05:35:15 pm
Quote from: Paul 2012 on May 13, 2011, 11:41:41 am
Quote from: sirnick on May 13, 2011, 09:19:56 am
Quote from: South Side of the Sky on May 12, 2011, 08:24:39 pm
By the way, those are some damn weird election results. Just because it's two hispanics versus one, in my book, doesn't mean that California's gonna go Republican, especially before Nevada goes Republican.
Trying to make it interesting.
It's certainly possible.
It may be possible in 30-40 years, but certainly not in 2016.
Looking at the map for the first time, I was thinking "there's something off. What is it? It looks normal, but something seems weird", then I noticed the Republicans got the West Coast.
Democrats also won Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia.
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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May 14, 2011, 01:41:39 pm »
Quote from: Paul 2012 on May 13, 2011, 06:40:11 pm
Quote from: South Side of the Sky on May 13, 2011, 05:35:15 pm
Quote from: Paul 2012 on May 13, 2011, 11:41:41 am
Quote from: sirnick on May 13, 2011, 09:19:56 am
Quote from: South Side of the Sky on May 12, 2011, 08:24:39 pm
By the way, those are some damn weird election results. Just because it's two hispanics versus one, in my book, doesn't mean that California's gonna go Republican, especially before Nevada goes Republican.
Trying to make it interesting.
It's certainly possible.
It may be possible in 30-40 years, but certainly not in 2016.
Looking at the map for the first time, I was thinking "there's something off. What is it? It looks normal, but something seems weird", then I noticed the Republicans got the West Coast.
Democrats also won Kentucky, Tennessee, and West Virginia.
Kentucky and Tennessee (and probably WV) have about as much chance of being won by a Democrat as New York City does electing Sarah Palin. It's just not going to happen, and certainly not by some New Yorker, and is evben more unbelievable to me than Martinez carrying California.
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May 15, 2011, 07:37:00 pm »
Trying to make it interesting, why don't you critique the realism of my Tsunami timeline? :p
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Quote from: sirnick on May 15, 2011, 07:37:00 pm
Trying to make it interesting, why don't you critique the realism of my Tsunami timeline? :p
You haven't posted in it in a while, and I took it less seriously than I do this.
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Quote from: sirnick on May 15, 2011, 07:37:00 pm
Trying to make it interesting, why don't you critique the realism of my Tsunami timeline? :p
Well, the tsunami timeline is somewhat realistic because anything could happen if our government collapsed due to a natural disaster. Demographics would change drastically due to mass deaths and evacuations of effected areas. But the 2016 map you posted is more suitable for some far off year like 2044 or 2048, imo.
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Re: The Steamroller Presidency
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February 24, 2012, 03:47:43 pm »
So what, if Martinez is a hispanic then it's reasonable to say she would generate that much appeal on the west coast, being a woman also helps, also Spitzer would do well in Tennessee, Kentucky and West Virginia due to his trust busting work as New York State Attorney General and because of his law and order credentials, as well as looking out for the little guy.
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