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« Reply #150 on: May 23, 2011, 10:45:39 am »
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8 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
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« Reply #151 on: May 23, 2011, 11:15:33 am »

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« Reply #152 on: May 23, 2011, 12:36:37 pm »
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« Reply #153 on: May 23, 2011, 01:16:11 pm »
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« Reply #154 on: May 23, 2011, 01:26:20 pm »
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7 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
3 Centre Party (Finland)
Fixing vote too just 4 Christian Democrats (Sweden)
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« Reply #155 on: May 24, 2011, 08:06:38 am »
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5 VVD
2 KD
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« Reply #156 on: May 24, 2011, 11:26:02 am »
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2 for the Centre Party (Finland)
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« Reply #157 on: May 24, 2011, 02:51:20 pm »
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5 VVD

I counted only Hash's votes for VVD because of this round's rule.
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« Reply #158 on: May 24, 2011, 04:00:08 pm »
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Christian Democrats (Sweden) is out



KD : 20
VVD : 16
Kesk : 10





- Austrian People's Party
- True Finns
- National Front (France)
- Popular Orthodox Rally (Greece)
- Liberal Party (Iceland)
- Party for Freedom (Netherlands)
- Progress Party (Norway)
- Christian Democrats (Sweden)
- Sweden Democrats
- Christian Democratic People's Party of Switzerland
- Swiss People's Party
- Liberal Democrats (UK)
- Conservative Party (UK)

Qualified for phase III :
- Danish Social Liberal Party
- Venstre (Denmark)
- Conservative People's Party (Denmark)
- Centre Party (Finland)
- National Coalition Party (Finland)
- Christian Democratic Union/Christian Social Union (Germany)
- Democrats 66 (Netherlands)
- People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (Netherlands)
- Centre Party (Norway)
- Liberal Party (Norway)
- Conservative Party (Norway)
- Christian Democratic Party (Norway)
- Liberal People's Party (Sweden)
- Centre Party (Sweden)
- Moderate Party (Sweden)

Phase II is now complete ! I hope you have enjoyed this part too. Smiley The final phase, for which all surviving parties will be grouped, will soon begin.
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« Reply #159 on: May 24, 2011, 04:35:38 pm »
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I like the finalists from the left.... but that scandinavian crazyness is disgusting...
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« Reply #160 on: May 24, 2011, 06:31:08 pm »
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Again, for the hundredth time,

WAY TOO MANY BORING SCANDINAVIAN PARTIES.
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« Reply #161 on: May 25, 2011, 04:29:56 am »

So... apart from CDU/CSU (which will be killed very early in the final stage, I presume Tongue) and M... Sad
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« Reply #162 on: May 25, 2011, 05:01:56 am »
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Too many scandinavian parties, yeah. If some assholes hadn't focused all their energy in outing LibDems and Conservatives, we could have eliminated Norwegian Christian Democrats and Swedish liberals... Tongue
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« Reply #163 on: May 25, 2011, 06:27:56 am »
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Also, just to make things fully transparent, here's how I've solved the 3-way tie on round 14. To calcualte the "number of votes in previous round, I've made the sum of number of votes/total votes on the round*number of voters, so that rounds with the lot of votes don't get overrepresented.

The results were 6.18 for ÖVP, 5.3 for VVD and 3.86 for KD. As you can see, it was quite close. Tongue
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« Reply #164 on: May 25, 2011, 01:31:03 pm »
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If you guys hadn't eliminated PASOK, FDP, the Social Democratic Party of Switzerland, Fianna Fáil, the Coalition of the Radical Left of Greece, Sinn Fein, the Socialist Party of Portugal, the Social Democratic Party of Portugal and the Front National among others then we could maybe have some more variety overall. Heck, even though i probably gave them a few points now and then Fine Gael, the Swiss People's Party and the Austrian People's Party would probably be fine additions to the final group.

But instead you decided to protect the same old boring parties we already know everything about like the Tories, the SPD, the LibDems, PSOE, etc Tongue

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« Reply #165 on: May 26, 2011, 05:13:03 am »
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If I well remember, you are the one who caused the elimination of the SPS. I was also one of the staunchest defenders of PASOK, and I think I managed to save it a few times.

FDP, Epic Fail, SYRIZA, and FN are all crap, the last two deserving to be ousted far earlier than they actually were.

And yeah, I like "old boring parties we already know everything about". They are among the richest and most interesting parties in this survivor.
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« Reply #166 on: May 26, 2011, 12:04:58 pm »
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If I well remember, you are the one who caused the elimination of the SPS. I was also one of the staunchest defenders of PASOK, and I think I managed to save it a few times.

FDP, Epic Fail, SYRIZA, and FN are all crap, the last two deserving to be ousted far earlier than they actually were.

And yeah, I like "old boring parties we already know everything about". They are among the richest and most interesting parties in this survivor.

Well yeah, i caused it in the sense that i voted to eliminate the SPD of Germany without making calculations and the SPS was eliminated, it's not like i voted to oust it.

Well, you are entitled to your opinion of course, i don't think that the parties i mentioned are crap, but to each his own. This isn't a Major European parties survivor, if you wanted that you should have just organized a small survivor of 30 or so parties instead of this massive one that consists of more than 100. Don't get me wrong, i LOVE that you included a lot of other parties that aren't so major and i have enjoyed the survivor thus far, but i just thought it would be interesting to keep lesser known parties instead of the same parties that appear in several other survivors like the SPD of Germany that won in the socialist international parties survivor for instance. We also had several survivors where we had to choose between parties of a country, i know there were French and German parties survivors (the German one was one by...surprise... the SPD again Tongue) and the more recent Spanish parties. I don't remember if we had a survivor of UK parties but we sure as hell had several of their prime ministers and party leaders. So yes, i find it a bit boring that these parties appear in final rounds of survivors again.

Anyway, i don't think people (including myself) that voted for the conservatives and the SPD and the LibDems, etc are "assholes", but we probably just have a different opinion on how the survivor should flow. For instance Hans likes the Green parties and so he votes to protect them, maybe they aren't old relics with a lot of history but he likes them and it's just another way of approaching voting in survivors, after all as Fab usually points out different people have different priorities in the game.

And I'm going to repeat this once more just in case. I LIKE the survivor, i consider Antonio a good mate and I'm not really complaining about it (i don't particularly care that much if there are too many Scandinavian parties or not, i mean sure some variety would be nicer but i don't have huge problems with it) but i thought i should respond to Antonio's post, and it's not because of the "asshole" part of the post since i know he uses that in jest (At least i hope he does Tongue)

I still have weeks of suffering though since my crusade is still far from over and i expect some agonizing days for my votes. The CDU, PSOE, Labour party of the UK and the french Socialist party are still alive and kicking Grin
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« Reply #167 on: May 26, 2011, 12:56:04 pm »
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There are many Scandinavian parties. Most of them are fairly old and have rich history, although  especially Alliance parties in Sweden are not very distinctive anymore. The reason for Scandinavian over presentation stem from original choices of Antonio. For example, Norwegian Venstre is really small party. For example Finnish KD or Dutch CU are much more living parties. Personally I think there is many interesting Italian and French parties that were not originally as alternatives. Anyhow this is interesting survivor.

The parties you mentioned are all around 4% today in their respective countries, but Venstre is the only one which got over 5% at some point (5.9% in the 2005 election). My criterion might be a bit arbitrary, but there was no other way to select parties for someone who hasn't an extremely approfondite knowledge of each of the 20 countries concerned. Wink


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since i know he uses that in jest (At least i hope he does )

Would I really spend so much time organizing all this if it were just for a bunch of assholes ? Grin

And anyway yes, I understand your "vision" of this survivor and why you don't want the SPD or the Tories to win this (I don't either, FTR). I still find it a bit weird that these parties were above truly nasty sacks of crap like ÖVP or VVD in your "hit list".
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