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« on: May 05, 2011, 08:45:32 AM »

I guess if you’re an alien in the country illegally, the feds don’t believe you need to obey any other laws either.

http://chronicle.augusta.com/latest-news/2011-02-12/ga-illegal-immigrant-college-student-indicted

http://standardspeaker.com/news/police-chief-ice-ordered-illegal-immigrant-released-1.1141493

Or maybe they’re waiting until someone is killed.  Like say, a nun.

Hmm.
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« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2011, 08:49:48 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2011, 10:24:40 AM »
« Edited: May 05, 2011, 10:27:35 AM by Roachbusters »

Carl, you could at least post examples of immigrants breaking laws more damning than felony "impeding the flow of traffic without citizenship."

Perhaps a crime ring of Mexican mercenaries smuggled across the border and hired to commit hits in the United States in exchange for their family's citizenship.  That would be a good reason for stringent immigration policy.  Actually, it would be a good plot for a movie more than anything.
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« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2011, 10:51:53 AM »

Carl, you could at least post examples of immigrants breaking laws more damning than felony "impeding the flow of traffic without citizenship."

Perhaps a crime ring of Mexican mercenaries smuggled across the border and hired to commit hits in the United States in exchange for their family's citizenship.  That would be a good reason for stringent immigration policy.  Actually, it would be a good plot for a movie more than anything.

Directed by Robert Rodriguez, obviously.
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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2011, 03:39:07 PM »
« Edited: May 05, 2011, 03:43:39 PM by CARLHAYDEN »

Carl, you could at least post examples of immigrants breaking laws more damning than felony "impeding the flow of traffic without citizenship."

Perhaps a crime ring of Mexican mercenaries smuggled across the border and hired to commit hits in the United States in exchange for their family's citizenship.  That would be a good reason for stringent immigration policy.  Actually, it would be a good plot for a movie more than anything.

Could you please cite the source for your belief that there is some "felony" called "impending the flow of traffic without citizenship".  Or, will you admit that this is another example of making false allegations?

Oh, and to add to my initial post, they can always follow up with killing some school children if a nun isn't available.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,331989,00.html
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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2011, 04:26:10 PM »

CARL, you forgot to rant that the two articles called them immigrants.
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« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2011, 08:45:06 AM »

CARL, you forgot to rant that the two articles called them immigrants.

Did Shady Brady write the articles?
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2011, 02:14:50 PM »

Officials huddle on illegal's release, welfare fraud

Published: May 9, 2011

State and local officials, upset that federal officials simply released an illegal immigrant who had allegedly committed welfare fraud, joined together Monday morning to voice their displeasure.

http://standardspeaker.com/news/officials-huddle-on-illegal-s-release-welfare-fraud-1.1144057
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2011, 02:16:57 PM »

I can't believe you didn't post this one, CARL
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2011, 02:18:28 PM »

or this one, CARL
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2011, 03:11:29 PM »

Fans of Dumas (pere) may recall the cachet of the ‘carte blanche,’ which entitled the bearer to immunity from the law.

Well, illegal aliens have their modern day, American, version of that document, known as a “U’ visa.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/mar/09/cases-highlight-competing-interests-in/

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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2011, 03:49:45 PM »

Fans of Dumas (pere) may recall the cachet of the ‘carte blanche,’ which entitled the bearer to immunity from the law.

Well, illegal aliens have their modern day, American, version of that document, known as a “U’ visa.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/mar/09/cases-highlight-competing-interests-in/

Once again CARL, you show how you consider illegal immigration to be worse than any other crime  The whole point of the U-visa is to keep illegal immigrants who are the victims of crime here so that they can testify against those who committed the crime.  Only people paranoid about illegal immigration think it is better to let criminals go free because we deported the witnesses against them solely because they were in the country illegally.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2011, 04:02:41 PM »

Fans of Dumas (pere) may recall the cachet of the ‘carte blanche,’ which entitled the bearer to immunity from the law.

Well, illegal aliens have their modern day, American, version of that document, known as a “U’ visa.

http://www.timesfreepress.com/news/2010/mar/09/cases-highlight-competing-interests-in/

Once again CARL, you show how you consider illegal immigration to be worse than any other crime  The whole point of the U-visa is to keep illegal immigrants who are the victims of crime here so that they can testify against those who committed the crime.  Only people paranoid about illegal immigration think it is better to let criminals go free because we deported the witnesses against them solely because they were in the country illegally.

Either you didn't comprehend the link, or are once again misrepresenting.

The illegal aliens were charged with fraud, but are alledging that they have carte blanche to violate laws, and are not subject our laws.

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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2011, 05:21:49 PM »

The illegal aliens were charged with fraud, but are alleging that they have carte blanche to violate laws, and are not subject our laws.

If the crime they were charged with was not directly related to their illegal immigration, had a penalty greater than simple deportation, or had occurred after they had received their U-visa, I could see your point.   (While the link you gave doesn't specify when they gave fake SSNs, they would have had no need to once they had a U-visa.)  In any case, a U-visa is not a permanent visa, but lasts at most 4 years while the case for which their testimony is required is being prosecuted.  They must continue to cooperate with the prosecutor, and the U-visa is revoked if they don't.

Tell me CARL, do oppose prosecutors making any sort of plea bargain or selectively dropping charges in exchange for testimony concerning other crimes?  Because that is exactly what the U-visa program is.
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