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Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats)
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Reply #25 on:
December 08, 2004, 10:21:15 pm »
Quote from: Ben. on December 08, 2004, 01:53:52 pm
Quote from: Richard M. Nixon on December 08, 2004, 06:52:43 am
Your best chance:
Evan Bayh
Evan Bayh
Evan Bayh
Thats what i've been saying!
As well as most of the Dems on the board but tell that to the folks in NH and IA
The folks hear us loud and clear
It's NH and alot of the other states we gotta worry about
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Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats)
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Reply #26 on:
December 09, 2004, 01:32:58 am »
Evan Bayh
Bill Richardson
Mark Warner
Tom Vilsack
John Breaux
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December 09, 2004, 05:10:10 am »
Quote from: math on December 08, 2004, 11:39:29 am
John Edwards
Evan Bayh
Mark Warner
Harold Ford
Al Gore
I like your list, except Harold Ford couldn't win a general presidential election in the US - he's black. Well, maybe if we're in the middle of a depression or something, it could happen.
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December 09, 2004, 07:33:55 am »
Wake up - John Edwards has no shot! He's got no experiance in an executive position, and is way too liberal to win. You need to move closer to the center, and nominate a fresh face.
But that's only if you want to win.
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December 09, 2004, 04:41:18 pm »
I have two problems with Bayh, and they were some of the major problems that hurt Kerry. Firstly, Bayh isn't much of a senate leader. He doesn't have any major legislative acheivments. Secondly he is kind of dry. The Democrats need a candidate who can maximize those two traits.
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Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats)
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December 09, 2004, 07:03:25 pm »
Evan Bayh
Mark Warner
Tom Vilsack
Wesley Clark
and the fifth, don't know: Hillary Clinton, Rod Blagojevich, Kathleen Sebelius.
For those who mention that Bayh has the disadvantage of being a Senator, he was also a strong two term governor (Kerry wasn't).
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December 10, 2004, 11:57:37 pm »
Dick Gephardt
John Edwards
Mary Landrieu
Jennifer Granholm (if only the arnold amendment passed...)
and, yeah, I'll go with Feingold
I also like Chris Bell from Texas, and I really do think he could take the state. (I know, it's such a drastic statement, but I'll stick with it.) I also like Steny Hoyer, the house minority whip from MD. And Louisiana's own Chris John. Anybody but Bayh!!!!!! PLEASE!!!
Oh and I like the Dean for DNC chair signature!
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December 11, 2004, 10:07:17 am »
Quote from: ian on December 10, 2004, 11:57:37 pm
Dick Gephardt
John Edwards
Mary Landrieu
Jennifer Granholm (if only the arnold amendment passed...)
and, yeah, I'll go with Feingold
I also like Chris Bell from Texas, and I really do think he could take the state. (I know, it's such a drastic statement, but I'll stick with it.) I also like Steny Hoyer, the house minority whip from MD. And Louisiana's own Chris John. Anybody but Bayh!!!!!! PLEASE!!!
Oh and I like the Dean for DNC chair signature!
Gephardt is gone.
John Edwards will be doing squat for four years and would have found it difficult in 2004 and would find it impossible after four years of doing nothing.
Mary Landrieu, maybe but I don't think she wants it and some would argue she was lacking gravitas, Blanche Lincoln would be a better choice, if you where looking ofr a southern female candidate.
Feingold is a guy I respect a great deal, but he is very liberal and would get battered by any credible GOP nominee, that said he wouldn't be as bad as Dean as he is far more disciplined.
Bayh however is by far the best choice, his positions, his geographical location and his experience all fit perfectly... my only worry is he is slightly wooden but then again Kerry was far more staid and Bayh is far more folksy something Kerry could never be, added to which Bayh doesn't do things to look stupid like windsurfing or cycling in likera... he is the Dems best bet by far, he’s the only Democrat who would be the candidate the republican nominee would have to beat rather than vice versa… no other democrat can offer that.
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December 11, 2004, 10:10:50 am »
Zell Miller
Harry Reid
Evan Bayh
Joe Lieberman
Ben Nelson
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Quote from: Ben. on December 11, 2004, 10:07:17 am
Bayh however is by far the best choice, his positions, his geographical location and his experience all fit perfectly... my only worry is he is slightly wooden but then again Kerry was far more staid and Bayh is far more folksy something Kerry could never be, added to which Bayh doesn't do things to look stupid like windsurfing or cycling in likera... he is the Dems best bet by far, he’s the only Democrat who would be the candidate the republican nominee would have to beat rather than vice versa… no other democrat can offer that.
I think Bayh would be a strong Democratic candidate in "red" states. He seems to be in touch with "Main Street" values
He'd get a larger piece of the moderate vote than Kerry, as well as greater support among Republicans and conservatives; while being centrist enough not to turn off liberals
He may need to raise his game in the Senate; though he does have a proven executive record as a two-term governor of Indiana - a job he would still hold if not for term limits
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December 11, 2004, 12:20:13 pm »
I hate to break it to you all again but Bayh is a serious and unaccomplished Senator.
Taking a lesson from 2004. We need a nominee who has acomplished something in their political career.
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December 12, 2004, 05:28:38 pm »
Evan Bayh
Wesley Clark
John Edwards
Harold Ford
Mark Warner
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Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats)
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December 13, 2004, 11:39:47 am »
Bayh
Hillary
Clark
Edwards
Warner
If Hillary could win I would really support her. Otherwise we need someone electable.
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Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats)
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December 20, 2004, 10:38:58 pm »
Russ Feingold
Evan Bayh
John Edwards
Harold Ford Jr.
Bill Richarson
In no particular order. Bayh or Feingold would help secure more Mid-western votes. Although Feingold is a liberal, he could play the "return to civil liberties" card, since he was only senator to vote against it. John Edwards may have beaten Bush if the Dems nominated him, rather than Kerry. He's more charismatic than Kerry, he has a folksy appeal about him. Also he and Harold Ford are from the south and thus more likely to get some votes there. By now the Democrats should at least figure they need a moderate candidate to win. No chance for Hillary, or Gore, or Kerry. Dean would have a chance, if he wasn't known for the scream. Some reason the media took a bit of excitement and blew it way out of proportion.
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December 23, 2004, 08:40:50 am »
Quote from: zachman on December 11, 2004, 12:20:13 pm
I hate to break it to you all again but Bayh is a serious and unaccomplished Senator.
Bayh was a pretty accomplished, and popular, two term governor of Indiana. He saw Indiana through recession, without hiking taxes and balancing the budget
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Re: Let's Name Names (Democrats)
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December 23, 2004, 08:56:30 am »
I've been thinking about it... and Bayh could be a very good pick. And for one reason:
To win back the White House, the Democrats need someone who can connect with Small Town voters (Bubba Clinton was very good at that. Neither Gore nor Kerry were any good at it and it cost them the top job) and Bayh's powerbase in Indiana is Small Town voters.
And I have to admit that I'm biased towards people from coalfields ;-)
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December 23, 2004, 04:58:00 pm »
Evan Bayh
Ed Rendell
John Edwards
Wesley Clark
Harry Reid
Bill Richardson
In no particular order.....
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