Freedom triumphs again in Florida!

[krazen1211]

Well, that's a risk you have to take in a democracy, no?

It's a risk of course, but one that can be hedged against, like any risk.

Voter ID is already settled law. Certainly someone unwilling to spend the minimal time and expense to procure an ID shouldn't be determining the fate of someone else's tax dollars.

[Smash255]

Well, that's a risk you have to take in a democracy, no?

It's a risk of course, but one that can be hedged against, like any risk.

Voter ID is already settled law. Certainly someone unwilling to spend the minimal time and expense to procure an ID shouldn't be determining the fate of someone else's tax dollars.

Thats the issue right there.  Forcing someone to get a document they need to pay for (even if its relatively cheap) in order to vote, is another form of a poll tax.

[Brittain33]

In a society with an uneven distribution of wealth--like, say, France in the 18th century, or Hanover England--you can limit the franchise to people with extensive property and income to prevent people from "voting themselves the public purse," and then you will have a government that serves its electors by preventing the poor from accumulating property or income and threatening the status and relative affluence of the elites. Perhaps by reserving superior education for those with property, taxing labor at the expense of capital, passing anti-vagrancy laws, and building walls around the elite caste using licenses and such. This is a far more common story in history than a democracy leading a country to ruin, I think, and one where the median level of human happiness is much closer to "miserable serf" than "ok, could be better."

[Marokai Backbeat]

Well, that's a risk you have to take in a democracy, no?

It's a risk of course, but one that can be hedged against, like any risk.

Voter ID is already settled law. Certainly someone unwilling to spend the minimal time and expense to procure an ID shouldn't be determining the fate of someone else's tax dollars.

Thats the issue right there.  Forcing someone to get a document they need to pay for (even if its relatively cheap) in order to vote, is another form of a poll tax.

You say that like Krazen cares about that sort of thing. He's not a human being, he's an amoral Republican political strategist.

[Badger]

Well, that's a risk you have to take in a democracy, no?

It's interesting how members of different parties draw difference conclusions from krazen's statement. For him, it's a sign that low-income people should be discouraged from voting through indirect means like this. For me, it points up how our defense budget has gotten enormous because contractors can "vote themselves the treasury" by making donations to politicians and providing lucrative second careers to them as lobbyists.

And don't forget tax exemptions and favorable capital gains rates.

Raiding the public purse indeed...