Setti Warren to challenge Scott Brown

[Landslide Lyndon]

I guess all that obnoxious whining by Barney Frank was for naught.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/Setti-Warren-Scott-Brown-2012-Senate-205443-1.html

Newton Mayor Setti Warren has become the second prominent Democrat to join the race to challenge Sen. Scott Brown (R).
 
Warren released an announcement video on his website Monday and plans a formal rollout Tuesday. In his early 40s and a mayor for little more than a year, Warren acknowledges that he is largely unknown to the voters of Massachusetts.
 
“Many of you don’t know me. I’m probably about as well-known as Scott Brown was at this point two years ago,” he said in the video, before walking viewers through a detailed biography.
 
Some Democrats, in Massachusetts and on Capitol Hill, are excited about Warren, an African-American who completed a tour of duty as an intelligence specialist in Iraq and previously served in the Clinton White House and as an aide to Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.).

[tpfkaw]

lol

[Landslide Lyndon]

lol

Great analysis by wormy once again.

[Capitan Zapp Brannigan]

lol

Great analysis by wormy once again.

I think in this case it actually is.

[DrScholl]

I keep saying that this is not going to be a breeze for Brown to win, I don't think any Democratic challenger is an LOL. It's a D+12 state, that's the thing to remember.

[Napoleon]

lol

Great analysis by wormy once again.

He did sum it up pretty well. A complete joke candidate is pathetic in a state with a Democratic bench like Massachusetts has.

[Brittain33]

He may be barely scraping the bottom of second-tier, but he's not a "joke candidate."

[tpfkaw]

He may be barely scraping the bottom of second-tier, but he's not a "joke candidate."

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Second-tier: Other statewide officeholders, congressmen, mayor of Boston

Third-tier: State reps, mayors of midsize cities, celebrities, self-funders.

[Landslide Lyndon]

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Yeah, we saw how well that worked out.

[tpfkaw]

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Yeah, we saw how well that worked out.

First/second/third "tier" doesn't mean "good candidate" or "bad candidate," it just indicates what position the candidate will have at the start of the campaign.

[krazen1211]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QIRFannLkI

[Brittain33]

He may be barely scraping the bottom of second-tier, but he's not a "joke candidate."

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Second-tier: Other statewide officeholders, congressmen, mayor of Boston

Third-tier: State reps, mayors of midsize cities, celebrities, self-funders.

I don't buy your distinction, but even by your scheme, he isn't low third-tier. Newton has twice the population of a state legislative district, for example.

[tpfkaw]

Warren's name recognition in the crucial swing town of Newton will surely be a springboard for a general election victory.

[tmthforu94]

Newton Mayor Setti Warren has become the second prominent Democrat to join the race to challenge Sen. Scott Brown (R).

I'd hardly call a newly elected mayor who less than 5% of the state has heard about a prominent candidate.

[feeblepizza]

I think Brown is going to hold the seat. He led even Vicki Kennedy by seven points before she backed out.

[Brittain33]

Warren's name recognition in the crucial swing town of Newton will surely be a springboard for a general election victory.

No, riding a tide of Democratic votes for President and winning enough Democratic-leaning moderates to get over 50%, while Brown somehow stumbles, would be his path to general election victory. Mediocre Republicans do this all the time in states that vote as heavily Republican as Mass. will vote heavily Democratic next year.

Democrats need someone competent and reasonably appealing. Maybe Warren is it, I don't know. He's not exactly chasing out someone more qualified.

[DrScholl]

I think everyone should remember that Ron Johnson was not even on anyone's radar, but ended up beating an incumbent Senator. Sure, Johnson could self-fund, but the point remains the same, you can't write off any challengers.

And again, the state's political demographics mean something and cannot be ignored. It's like if a Democrat had won a seat in Mississippi or Alabama by a fluke and got high approvals, you couldn't conceivably write off any Republican. Voters may approve of a Senator or even like them, but still revert to partisan voting in the end.

[Meeker]

He may be barely scraping the bottom of second-tier, but he's not a "joke candidate."

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Second-tier: Other statewide officeholders, congressmen, mayor of Boston

Third-tier: State reps, mayors of midsize cities, celebrities, self-funders.

So by your own definitions, Brown was a third-tier candidate who beat a first-tier candidate last January.

And yet now that magically cannot happen.

Interesting.

[tpfkaw]

He may be barely scraping the bottom of second-tier, but he's not a "joke candidate."

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Second-tier: Other statewide officeholders, congressmen, mayor of Boston

Third-tier: State reps, mayors of midsize cities, celebrities, self-funders.

So by your own definitions, Brown was a third-tier candidate who beat a first-tier candidate last January.

And yet now that magically cannot happen.

Interesting.

Yes, and when did I ever say that couldn't happen?  However, Scott Brown is not Martha Coakley and Setti Warren is not Scott Brown.

[Meeker]

He may be barely scraping the bottom of second-tier, but he's not a "joke candidate."

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Second-tier: Other statewide officeholders, congressmen, mayor of Boston

Third-tier: State reps, mayors of midsize cities, celebrities, self-funders.

So by your own definitions, Brown was a third-tier candidate who beat a first-tier candidate last January.

And yet now that magically cannot happen.

Interesting.

Yes, and when did I ever say that couldn't happen?  However, Scott Brown is not Martha Coakley and Setti Warren is not Scott Brown.

The fact that you're unable to recognize your own partisan hypocrisy on this is sad but unsurprising.

[tpfkaw]

He may be barely scraping the bottom of second-tier, but he's not a "joke candidate."

More like third-tier, and low third-tier at that.

First-tier: Governor, AG

Second-tier: Other statewide officeholders, congressmen, mayor of Boston

Third-tier: State reps, mayors of midsize cities, celebrities, self-funders.

So by your own definitions, Brown was a third-tier candidate who beat a first-tier candidate last January.

And yet now that magically cannot happen.

Interesting.

Yes, and when did I ever say that couldn't happen?  However, Scott Brown is not Martha Coakley and Setti Warren is not Scott Brown.

The fact that you're unable to recognize your own partisan hypocrisy on this is sad but unsurprising.

The phuck?

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Newton Mayor Setti Warren has become the second prominent Democrat to join the race to challenge Sen. Scott Brown (R).

Interesting definition of "prominent."

The fact that you're unable to recognize your own partisan hypocrisy on this is sad but unsurprising.

Let's say this: Scott Brown was a third tier candidate when he won his race for U.S. Senate, and he was facing a top-tier candidate. But for Brown to win, a perfect storm was required: Democrats had to take Coakley's win for granted (they did); Brown had to run a flawless campaign (he did); Coakley had to self-destruct in proportions unimaginable (she did); and the national environment needed to be absolutely perfect (it was).

Lots and lots and lots of hurdles. Maybe Warren can get a good national environment, but more is needed to topple the most popular politician in the state.

[redcommander]

Newton Mayor Setti Warren has become the second prominent Democrat to join the race to challenge Sen. Scott Brown (R).

Interesting definition of "prominent."

The fact that you're unable to recognize your own partisan hypocrisy on this is sad but unsurprising.

Let's say this: Scott Brown was a third tier candidate when he won his race for U.S. Senate, and he was facing a top-tier candidate. But for Brown to win, a perfect storm was required: Democrats had to take Coakley's win for granted (they did); Brown had to run a flawless campaign (he did); Coakley had to self-destruct in proportions unimaginable (she did); and the national environment needed to be absolutely perfect (it was).

Lots and lots and lots of hurdles. Maybe Warren can get a good national environment, but more is needed to topple the most popular politician in the state.

Wasn't Coakley once the most popular politician in Massachusetts? I think it's highly unlikely he will lose, but Coakley wasn't an unpopular figure in the state when she lost.

[Napoleon]

Martha Coakley didn't drive a truck.

[DrScholl]

It's worth noting that Martha Coakley made a lot of missteps that damaged her a lot.