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is marital rape a constitutionally protected right accd. to this language?
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is marital rape a constitutionally protected right accd. to this language?
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Would we allow the police to search the sacred precincts of marital bedrooms for telltale signs of the use of contraceptives? The [p486] very idea is repulsive to the notions of privacy surrounding the marriage relationship.
We deal with a right of privacy older than the Bill of Rights -- older than our political parties, older than our school system. Marriage is a coming together for better or for worse, hopefully enduring, and intimate to the degree of being sacred. It is an association that promotes a way of life, not causes; a harmony in living, not political faiths; a bilateral loyalty, not commercial or social projects. Yet it is an association for as noble a purpose as any involved in our prior decisions.
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Re: is marital rape a constitutionally protected right accd. to this language?
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I'm not sure that existed marital rape existed as a legal concept in
Griswold's
time (though it of course existed as a reality). That said, I don't think it does mean that any more than it means that spousal abuse or spousal
homicide
are protected in the sacred grounds of the marital bedroom. There's a significant difference between ridiculous and unenforceable victimless crimes like the Connecticut absurd ban on marital couples using contraceptives, or, in a more recent example of the rhetoric of privacy of bedroom relations,
Lawrence v. Texas
, and what you're talking about.
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Pennsylvania didn't admit the possibility of marital rape until 1982-83. Ironically, I was reading the
Nibelungenlied
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No, of course not. The privacy in question here is meant to refer to the privacy between two consenting adults - in the case of marital rape the victim would have the lawful right to allow law enforcement into the bedroom to collect evidence and have a medical examiner look at her body to document physical evidence of the abuse.
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Quote from: J. J. on May 16, 2011, 12:34:43 am
Pennsylvania didn't admit the possibility of marital rape until 1982-83. Ironically, I was reading the
Nibelungenlied
at the time.
I remember. Then governor, later US Atty Gen. Dick Thornburgh, opposed the reform in that it might prompt "frivolous" rape claims.
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