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« on: May 20, 2011, 04:58:29 PM »
« edited: May 21, 2011, 12:55:57 AM by DS0816 »

ELECTIONS 1912–2008



Over the last century, the above states have differed in carriage or denial to presidents elected to [a minimum of] two terms: Woodrow Wilson [1912, 1916], Franklin Roosevelt [1932, 1936, 1940, 1944], Dwight Eisenhower [1952, 1956], Richard Nixon [1968, 1972], Ronald Reagan [1980, 1984], Bill Clinton [1992, 1996], and George W. Bush [2000, 2004].

In 1912 both New Mexico (No. 47 admitted into the union) and Arizona (No. 48) had their first presidential election. At that point the contiguous 48 states were established — and Election 1960 saw Alaska (No. 49) and Hawaii (No. 50) participate for the first time. District of Columbia joined in with Election 1964.

Bellwether states have been noted on this site: Ohio [since 1896, except 1944 and 1960]; Missouri [since 1904, minus 1956 and 2008], Nevada and N.M. [since 1912, except 1976 for both and, in 2000, with the latter]; and Florida [since 1928, with exception of 1960 and 1992]. But I wanted to take into account not just those but all other states because some have a pretty damn good track record of backing the winner — or at least giving a two-termer carriage once.  

The above map’s color scheme represents a chilly (blue) and a warm (red) reception. (Louisiana gets a lighter-red shade because the Republicans saw three individuals elected during the 1920s. And La. never voted for Warren Harding, Calvin Coolidge, and Herbert Hoover. But all other two-termers carried the state.) And the letters are initials — see below “Key” — for previous commanders in chief who had never carried a given state.

Part of this can spark the following questions:
• If it turns out President Obama wins a second term with Election 2012, which of those red-colored states — not carried in his first election — might he win in his second? (Given a strong enough shift.)
• If Obama gets re-elected with an additional margin shift (in 2008 it was 7.26%), will it be even more interesting to see, say, Tennessee (which had voted with the winner in all these elections but three) deny carriage? (Or, even more compelling, West Virginia — which likely would’ve been in Hillary Clinton’s column had she been the party’s ’08 nominee.)



Key
W | Wilson, Woodrow
F | Roosevelt, Franklin
E | Eisenhower, Dwight
N | Nixon, Richard
R | Reagan, Ronald
C | Clinton, Bill
B | Bush, George W.
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2011, 05:23:48 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2011, 06:48:13 PM »

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Missouri and Montana would be the first to fall.

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After Missouri and Montana, Arizona is the next likely Democratic pick-up.  At that point, the only "red" states left are Appalachian and Louisiana.  I personally think the country is too polarized for any of those four to end up in Obama's column.
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2011, 11:22:53 PM »

Obama will pick up Missouri and Arizona, while maybe losing Indiana.
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2011, 11:46:16 PM »

Georgia wasn't so far away from being an Obama win. I can imagine Georgia as a pickup because

(1) current polling shows President Obama (and this is before Osama bin Laden was whacked)    with an approval rating in the state in the zone (45%) of a possible win (add about 6%  to anything between 40% and 48% approval and you get a good estimate of the vote share), and

(2)military issues could favor President Obama in a state with a large military presence. The Republicans will not run a war hero this time, and if the US is pulling out of Afghanistan honorably, then such will matter greatly.  
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2011, 07:32:16 PM »

Georgia wasn't so far away from being an Obama win. I can imagine Georgia as a pickup because

(1) current polling shows President Obama (and this is before Osama bin Laden was whacked)    with an approval rating in the state in the zone (45%) of a possible win (add about 6%  to anything between 40% and 48% approval and you get a good estimate of the vote share), and

(2)military issues could favor President Obama in a state with a large military presence. The Republicans will not run a war hero this time, and if the US is pulling out of Afghanistan honorably, then such will matter greatly.   

........wtf. I hope you didnt just say the military voters could HELP Obama?
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