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« on: January 09, 2015, 12:00:45 am »
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https://archive.org/details/msdos_President_Elect_-_1988_Edition_1987

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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2015, 12:35:08 am »
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Interesting!


Sure would love to play a version with updated graphics though...
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2015, 12:36:00 am »
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What's crazy is that this video game (made in 1987) contains more election scenarios and a better campaign editor that anything that has come out since. 
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« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2015, 08:41:29 am »
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The manual for this is available on Scribd. It provides lots of helpful tips as well as a list of candidate qualities and maps, etc.
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2015, 04:35:58 pm »
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I can only win in the landslide elections (64, 72, 84).
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2015, 01:38:43 pm »
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Anyone else been playing this? As "Ted Kennedy" in 1968, I beat Nixon by a solid five-point margin. I did very well in the South, though I took some present-day strongholds for granted, and lost OR, MN (no Humphrey on the ticket) and MD (Agnew's homestate) in squeakers.
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2015, 02:27:30 pm »
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I just won as an independent against weak Democratic and Republican candidates I created.  I think it's interesting that my conservative positions were more popular in Hawaii and Vermont than they were in Missouri and West Virginia.
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2015, 03:41:27 pm »
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I ran Nixon against himself in 1960 (both as computer).

Not sure wat happen





Only GA and MS were over 60% for some reason. Most states were close.
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« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2015, 07:20:36 pm »
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I played as Shirley Chisholm in '72 and got 26% popular vote and no electoral votes.
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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2015, 08:02:26 pm »
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Played as Nixon in '68.
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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2015, 09:20:10 pm »
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Knocked Pat Robertson around as Cuomo. Suck it, Moral Majority!



Gov. Mario Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX): 338 EVs, 48,738,932 PVs (53.48%)
Mr. Pat Robertson (R-VA)/Sen. Robert Dole (R-KS): 200 EVs, 42,388,484 PVs (46.52%)
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2015, 12:46:05 pm »
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this looks fun !
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« Reply #12 on: January 12, 2015, 10:53:24 pm »
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Thanks so much for pointing this out ... I keep managing to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, but it's a blast!  I just lost an incredibly close race to Hubert Humphrey.
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2015, 11:33:43 pm »
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This was a fun one. I played as Pat.


1988
D.P. Moynihan (NY) / S. Nunn (GA) 51% 376
L. Weicker (CT)/ H. Baker (TN) 46% 162
J. Buckley (CT)/ B. Stein (CA) 2%
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2015, 12:42:03 am »
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1972



George Wallace / Scoop Jackson - 132; 44%, 35,243,792
Richard Nixon / SD - 406; 47%, 37,507,888
Ronald Reagan / MN - 0; 9%, 7,232,464



Closest state was Arkansas, at 46% (319,928) for Wallace and 46% (320,663) for Nixon.


I had a really big lead until I lost every debate! I don't really understand the strategy of this game. it's all just random numbers
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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2015, 01:37:05 am »
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1988

On 11:50pm EST, the state of Texas was called with 51% for Delaware Senator Joe Biden. With Texas goes the White House...









Delaware Senator Joe Biden / Texas Senator Lloyd Bentsen - 364; 51%, 44,432,088
Pat Buchanan / Don't Remember - 174; 49%, 42,730,544




Closest States

Alabama
Biden: 50%, 701,666
Buchanan: 50%, 699,947


Missouri
Biden: 50%, 938,327
Buchanan: 50%, 932,989


Montana
Biden: 50%, 185,712
Buchanan: 50%, 188,124


Ohio
Biden: 50%, 2,074,871
Buchanan: 50%, 2,088,805


Vermont
Biden: 50%, 109,762
Buchanan: 50%, 110,775
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« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2015, 02:11:02 am »
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A Very Sad 1964



New York Senator Robert Kennedy / ? ? ? - 228
Alabama Governor George Wallace / ? ? ? - 310
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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2015, 11:51:51 pm »
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1980: A Comeback

President James Carter (D-GA)/Vice-President Walter Mondale (D-MN) - 235 EVs, 50.00% of the popular vote - 40,770,360
Former President Gerald Ford (R-MI)/Senator Howard Baker (R-TN) - 303 EVs, 50.00% of the popular vote - 40,766,452

Lost Vermont by 500 votes, won Michigan by 2,000.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2015, 02:07:19 pm »
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It definitely tends to underestimate the effect of ideology (versus party) on the various states.
a computer v computer simulation:

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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2015, 05:27:04 pm »
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here are the actual historical figures for the 1988 scenario if anyone wants to use them:

inflation (Sept.): 4.2
unemployment (Sept.): 5.4
GNP growth: 3.9%
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2015, 08:39:36 pm »
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1960



Minnesota Senator Hubert Humphrey / Texas Senator Lyndon B. Johnson - 251 (50%; 28,275,862)
Vice President Richard Nixon / Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. - 286 (50%; 28,519,956)




1964



Massachusetts Senator John F. Kennedy / California - 25 (42%; 27,721,272)
President Richard Nixon / Vice President Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. - 513 (58%; 38,028,020)




1968

Eight years ago, it was after 2:00am EST that President Nixon was declared the winner. But we weren't even to 10:00pm EST before, with Illinois, Senator Humphrey made his historic comeback. He and Democrat-turned-Independent George Wallace were the only candidates to even win a state's electoral votes before 10:00pm.



Minnesota Senator Hubert Humphrey / Illinois - 495 (49%; 30,481,652)
Rockefeller / New Jersey - 4 (38%; 23,841,216)
Wallace / Kentucky - 39 (13%; 8,190,454)




1972



President Hubert Humphrey / Vice President Illinois - 393 (54%; 40,120,544)
California Governor Ronald Reagan / Tennessee - 145 (45%; 33,559,648)




1976



Robert Byrd / Fritz Hollings - 170
California Governor Ronald Reagan / MA - 368

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1980



New York Senator Robert F. Kennedy / Texas - 474 (54%; 48,719,244)
President Ronald Reagan / Vice President Massachusetts - 64 (46%; 41,514,376)




1984



President Robert F. Kennedy / Vice President Texas - 533 (62%; 58,958,132)
Texas Senator George H. W. Bush / Connecticut - 5 (37%; 35,268,112)



1988



Deleware Senator Joe Biden / California Governor Jerry Brown - 503 (56%; 51,852,836)
Kansas Senator Bob Dole / Michigan - 35 (44%; 41,170,188)


BONUS MAP: Dole In '88!



Sam Nunn / Deleware Senator Joe Biden - 95 (46%; 42,111,960)
Kansas Senator Bob Dole / Minnesota - 443 (54%; 49,575,276)
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« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2015, 09:04:44 pm »
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1960 - H.H.H.



Minnesota Senator Hubert H. Humphrey / New York - 276 (50%; 27,820,646)
Nelson Rockefeller / Henry Cabot Lodge, Jr. - 261 (50%; 27,862,056)


Rockefeller wins popular vote by 41,410.
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