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« Reply #125 on: June 23, 2016, 08:59:01 pm »
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As Senator Daniel Inouye walked into the Oval Office that dreary Thursday morning, he felt a chill creep down his spine. He always knew that President Gore had a tendency to prefer lower temperatures during his meetings - this was not the first time the two had met in private - but he somehow knew that this was no ordinary chill. No, this was different.

"Mr. President," the Senator muttered, stone-faced. He waved a hand to dismiss his staffers from the room and took a seat on the opposite side of the President's desk.

"Senator Inouye," Gore replied, looking up from the stack of papers in front of him. Gore had not actually been reading the papers - he had, in fact, spent the past two hours concentrating solely on the meeting that was about to occur - but Senator Inouye could not know this.

The Senator cleared his throat. "You know, Mr. President, it doesn't have to come to this. We've offered our list of demands, and we've even removed two provisions your advisers deemed unfriendly."

"I don't need your counsel, Senator Inouye," the President retorted, his expression slowly shifting from shock to anger. "My staff and I have made our decision, and there's nothing you can do to change that. I called this meeting to allow you to compromise with me, not to have to listen to you go on and on about your damned demands, or whatever your lot call them."

"I'm sorry, Mr. President, but that isn't my problem. We've issued our ultimatum, and now it's up to you to determine whether or not you will abide by it. I have nothing more to say."

President Gore watched Senator Inouye stand up from his chair and begin to walk out of the room. He felt like a schoolchild reprimanded by his teacher for misbehaving.

The meeting had lasted only two minutes, but it had felt like two hours. The President had one more week. One more week until it would all be over. One more week until it would all begin.
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« Reply #126 on: June 24, 2016, 10:55:41 am »
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BREAKING - Boxer Announces Formation of Anti-Iraq War Caucus; Endorses Hart Over Gore

June 10, 2003

CNN - Another stunning blow was dealt to the Gore Administration this Tuesday as seventeen Democratic members of the United States Senate and twenty-five of their colleagues in the House of Representatives announced the formation of a caucus to oppose President Gore's policies regarding the increasingly unpopular War in Iraq.

Led by Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA), who gained national attention earlier this year through her role as the lead opponent of the Iraq War Resolution in the Senate, the group is to be known as the Progressive People's Caucus, or PPC. The caucus will be chaired in the House by Representative Martin Sabo of Minnesota, another anti-Iraq War Democrat known for his fierce criticism of the President's foreign policy.

While rumors of increased tensions between the President and anti-IWR Democrats in Congress had been slowly spreading around Capitol Hill for nearly two weeks now according to an inside source, the formation of the caucus was only officially announced earlier this morning, when Senator Boxer and Representative Sabo participated in a joint press conference outside the latter's office in Washington. Leaving no doubt regarding the intentions of her group, Senator Boxer immediately called out Gore for "ineffective and destructive leadership that has set our nation up for utter failure on the international playing field," promising to "end the caustic war in Iraq as soon as possible and bring the sons and daughters of our nation away from harm and back to their families."

Perhaps even more shocking, however, was Senator Boxer's announcement that she would give her endorsement in the upcoming Democratic presidential primary to Gary Hart instead of her party's incumbent. In a fierce rebuke of the Gore Administration, Boxer emphasized the need for "competent and independent leadership in these times of great trouble for the people of our nation," calling former Senator Hart "a selfless yet courageous leader who has exemplified his ability to take our country in a positive direction throughout his many years in the United States Senate." Boxer was joined in her endorsement of Hart by a number of the members of her newly formed caucus, while others - including Representative Sabo - decided to withhold their endorsement until a later time.

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CNN/USA Today/Gallup - Presidential Approval (June 10)

Approve - 36% (-3)
Disapprove - 52% (+2)
Undecided - 12% (+1)

CNN/USA Today/Gallup - Political Alignment Among Republicans (June 10)

Conservative Traditional Caucus - 44% (+5)
Mainstream Republican Party - 43% (-3)
Undecided - 13% (-2)

CNN/USA Today/Gallup - National Republican Primary Poll (June 10)

Larry Craig - 27% (+3)
Dick Cheney - 26% (-1)
Richard Lugar - 9% (-2)
John Hoeven - 7% (-1)
Dirk Kempthorne - 7% (+1)
Frank Murkowski - 4% (+1)
Conrad Burns - 4% (+/-0)
Lamar Alexander - 2% (+/-0)
Jim Bunning - 2% (+/-0)
Alan Keyes - 1% (-1)
Undecided - 11% (+/-0)

CNN/USA Today/Gallup - National Democratic Primary Poll (June 10)

Al Gore - 49% (-8)
Gary Hart - 26% (+8)
Evan Bayh - 19% (-2)
Undecided - 6% (+2)

CNN/USA Today/Gallup - General Election Match-Ups (June 10)

Dick Cheney - 48% (+/-0)
Al Gore - 43% (-3)
Undecided - 9% (+3)

Larry Craig - 47% (+1)
Al Gore - 45 (-1)
Undecided - 8% (+/-0)

Dick Cheney - 48%
Gary Hart - 44%
Undecided - 8%

Gary Hart - 46%
Larry Craig - 45%
Undecided - 9%

Evan Bayh - 46%
Dick Cheney - 46%
Undecided - 8%

Evan Bayh - 47%
Larry Craig - 43%
Undecided - 10%
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« Reply #127 on: June 24, 2016, 10:57:01 am »
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« Reply #128 on: June 24, 2016, 10:58:57 am »
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Is this the same thing Gore held the meeting about/got whispered to about?

Great TL
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« Reply #129 on: June 24, 2016, 06:54:45 pm »
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Is this the same thing Gore held the meeting about/got whispered to about?

Yes, I don't think Gore is very happy right now given the situation Tongue
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« Reply #130 on: June 24, 2016, 07:06:49 pm »
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Is this the same thing Gore held the meeting about/got whispered to about?

Yes, I don't think Gore is very happy right now given the situation Tongue

Welp, that was anti-climatic
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« Reply #131 on: June 24, 2016, 07:11:29 pm »
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Is this the same thing Gore held the meeting about/got whispered to about?

Yes, I don't think Gore is very happy right now given the situation Tongue

Welp, that was anti-climatic

I would call it more of a "chain of events," of which this is simply the first step Wink
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« Reply #132 on: July 17, 2016, 10:56:51 am »
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NBC Special Report - The 2004 Presidential Election

June 25, 2003

The 2004 presidential election is shaping up to be perhaps one of the most exciting in our nation's history as two embattled party establishments prepare to fend off opposing outside wings - and, eventually, each other - in order to take the helm of a nation that has been torn apart by terrorism and war over the course of the past two years.

On the Republican side, the field has now officially increased in size to ten candidates as former Education Secretary Lamar Alexander of Tennessee announced his bid for the presidency in a rally shortly outside Nashville on Tuesday morning. Stressing a need for party unity, Alexander called on the whole of the Republican Party to "realize and accept the differences that divide us in order to come up with comprehensive, objective solutions that we can all agree upon." Shortly after his announcement, the Republican National Committee announced a tentative debate schedule for the upcoming primary season, with the first debate to be held in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania on July 19 and hosted by NBC.

July 19, 2003 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - NBC News
August 23, 2003 in Boston, Massachusetts - CBS News
September 13, 2003 in Dayton, Ohio - ABC News
October 4, 2003 in Corpus Christi, Texas - Fox Business
November 22, 2003 in Denver, Colorado - CNN
December 13, 2003 in Las Vegas, Nevada - Fox News
January 17, 2004 in Des Moines, Iowa - CBS News
January 24, 2004 in Manchester, New Hampshire - CNN
February 1, 2004 in St. Louis, Missouri - NBC News
March 1, 2004 in San Francisco, California - ABC News

Many have speculated that the first debate will feature something of a "showdown" between opposing establishment and Conservative Traditionalist Caucus wings of the party, with half of the declared field of ten candidates having so far pledged support to the CTC and the other half having refused to do so.

Meanwhile, the Democrats are faring no better, with chaos having erupted throughout the party following the announcement earlier this month that seventeen Democratic members of the United States Senate and twenty-five of their fellow Representatives would join a caucus formed specifically to oppose President Gore's position on the Iraq War. Already, two members of the caucus in the Senate - Senator Daniel Inouye of Hawaii and Senator Russ Feingold of Wisconsin - have announced that they would begin the process of leaving the Democratic Party once and for all, with Feingold declaring Gore's support of the Iraq War to be "an unconscionable and unforgivable violation of everything our party once pledged to stand for." According to inside sources, the President and Democratic Senate leadership are "absolutely furious" with Inouye and Feingold's decisions to leave the party, with Majority Leader Tom Daschle apparently refusing to comply with a request by the two Senators to maintain their committee positions after the completion of the transition process. While PPC founder Barbara Boxer was unavailable for comment when asked if she would join Inouye and Feingold in leaving the party, it is widely speculated that she and a number of others in the Progressive People's Caucus will do so if their demands are not met.

Despite the chaotic environment, the Democratic National Committee today also released a tentative schedule of primary debates over the course of the upcoming months, with eight debates to be held between this August and the Iowa caucus next January.

August 12, 2003 in Portland, Oregon - CNN
September 16, 2003 in Houston, Texas - NBC News
October 28, 2003 in Springfield, Illinois - CBS News
November 11, 2003 in Charlotte, North Carolina - ABC News
December 9, 2003 in Miami, Florida - CNN
January 13, 2004 in Davenport, Iowa - NBC News
January 22, 2004 in Nashua, New Hampshire - ABC News
January 29, 2004 in Charleston, South Carolina - CBS News

The Hart and Bayh campaigns were quick to criticize the DNC, alleging that the perceived low number of debates was intentionally decided on in order to assist Gore's chance of reelection. In a press release issued by his campaign, Hart insisted that "the scarcity of forums for discussion in this election are just another symptom of an establishment unwilling to give proper recognition to outside viewpoints," with Bayh stating during an interview that "we definitely need more debates this cycle in order to get across the message that the President isn't the only one defining the path our party takes."

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NBC/Wall Street Journal - Presidential Approval (June 25)

Approve - 36% (+/-0)
Disapprove - 51% (-1)
Undecided - 13% (+1)

NBC/Wall Street Journal - Political Alignment Among Republicans (June 25)

Mainstream Republican Party - 43% (+/-0)
Conservative Traditional Caucus - 42% (-2)
Undecided - 15% (+2)

NBC/Wall Street Journal - Political Alignment Among Democrats (June 25)

Mainstream Democratic Party - 52%
Progressive People's Caucus - 24%
Undecided - 24%

NBC/Wall Street Journal - National Republican Primary Poll (June 25)

Larry Craig - 28% (+1)
Dick Cheney - 27% (+1)
Richard Lugar - 11% (+2)
John Hoeven - 6% (-1)
Dirk Kempthorne - 5% (-2)
Lamar Alexander - 3% (+1)
Frank Murkowski - 3% (-1)
Conrad Burns - 2% (-2)
Alan Keyes - 1% (+/-0)
Jim Bunning - 1% (-1)
Undecided - 13% (+2)

NBC/Wall Street Journal - National Democratic Primary Poll (June 25)

Al Gore - 43% (-6)
Gary Hart - 29% (+3)
Evan Bayh - 12% (+3)
Undecided - 6% (+/-0)

NBC/Wall Street Journal - General Election Match-Ups (June 25)

Dick Cheney - 46% (-2)
Al Gore - 41% (-2)
Undecided - 13% (+4)

Larry Craig - 45% (-2)
Al Gore - 45% (+/-0)
Undecided - 10% (+2)

Gary Hart - 46% (+2)
Dick Cheney - 45% (-3)
Undecided - 9% (+1)

Gary Hart - 49% (+3)
Larry Craig - 42% (-3)
Undecided - 9% (+/-0)

Evan Bayh - 48% (+2)
Dick Cheney - 44% (-2)
Undecided - 8% (+/-0)

Evan Bayh - 50% (+3)
Larry Craig - 41% (-2)
Undecided - 9% (-1)

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« Reply #133 on: July 17, 2016, 08:56:43 pm »
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ATTACK ON TIKRIT AIR BASE KILLS 253;
CRAIG DITCHES GOP

July 4, 2003

Americans woke up to shock and terror this morning as news spread of a horrific terrorist attack on the Tikrit Air Academy in central Iraq, where two suicide bombers with reported connections to al-Qaeda allegedly killed 253 people, including 171 American military personnel and 82 members of the Iraqi Armed Forces.

The attack took place at approximately 12:30 PM Iraqi time - equivalent to 5:30 AM Eastern Standard Time - during a lunch held between Iraqi and American soldiers assigned to participate in the same mission later this month. According to a statement released by the Department of Defense, al-Qaeda had planned for the bombing to happen on the Fourth of July, with papers found in the vehicle used by the bombers revealing that the attack was designed to prevent coalition forces from making key gains in nearby areas used by al-Qaeda for strategic planning.

Among the victims were one hundred and nineteen active duty American military personnel and fifty-two other Americans, along with eighty-two Iraqis, most of whom had some involvement in the coalition-led Iraqi Armed Forces. The bombing was the single deadliest attack on Americans since September 11, 2001, with many in the media and elsewhere labeling the event as "the second 9/11."

Reactions to the terrorist attack were swift and emotional, with President Gore calling the bombing a "travesty of unimaginable consequence" and praising all of those at the Tikrit Air Academy for their "unwavering courage and commitment even in times of great emotional anguish." Gore's remarks were echoed by Defense Secretary Wesley Clark, who called upon all Americans to "mourn with their brothers and sisters abroad on this day of agony," along with House Speaker Dennis Hastert, who declared that "we will have hope when our enemies try to use fear; we will unite when our enemies try to divide us."

However, not all responses to the attack were as stately as that delivered by the President. In a press conference held outside his Washington office shortly after President Gore delivered an address of his own, Senator Larry Craig of Idaho, founder of the increasingly controversial Conservative Traditionalist Caucus, delivered the following statement:

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"Earlier today, I had a conversation with Minority Leader Lott in his office right around the corner. We had a nice chat about our families, and we had a nice chat about the weather.

"We had a nice chat about sports teams and about the fishing trip that he was planning to take later this week. And about thirty minutes in, I looked at my watch and I thought to myself, 'Is this guy ever going to bring the attacks up?' It appeared he had no intention to, so I decided to bring them up myself. So I said to the Minority Leader, 'On a more serious note, what are your thoughts on the tragic terrorist attacks that occurred earlier this morning?'

"I expected Senator Lott to begin to go into detail about how we can best prevent similar attacks from happening in the future, about how we can work with the military to create a strategic plan for keeping all of our sons and daughters fighting abroad away from danger. But no, the Senator's response was nothing along those lines. Instead of opting for a comprehensive discussion regarding our nation's involvement in Iraq - instead of providing the slightest shred of decency on the subject - Senator Lott simply said, 'Well, at least it will screw Gore over.'

"How can I still identify as part of a party that puts mere politics over the lives of our nation's brothers and sisters serving abroad? How can I associate myself with a group of self-centered, egotistical politicians whose first thought after the deadliest terrorist attack since 9/11 is to determine the overt political ramifications it will have?

"The problem between the establishment of the Republican Party and the section of the Republican Party that I have chosen to lead is much deeper than the media chooses to report. The last weeks - the last months - have seen the personal relationship I and my colleagues have with our party's establishment strain immensely, strain to an extent that I am afraid is no longer something that can still be fixed.

"And so it is now that I announce with a heavy heart that I can no longer associate myself with the Republican Party. I can no longer associate myself with a party that puts its politics over its policy, that puts its victory over its values. Today, I announce that I - along with the eleven other senators who joined the first iteration of the Conservative Traditionalist Caucus in May and the ten other senators who have joined it in the mean time - am going to leave the GOP.

"Splitting from the party that first introduced me into politics will be no easy task. Already, staffers from my Senate office are having talks with our colleagues at the Republican National Committee in order to ensure that a political system with more than two parties will not result in an inadvertent split of the conservative vote and seizure of power by the Democratic Party. Over the course of the upcoming months and years, I plan on working with my colleagues in the Senate on both sides of the aisle to ensure that amicable relations are rightfully maintained.

"Right now, I speak to those in the Conservative Traditionalist Caucus who have joined our movement over the last few weeks and months. First, I would like to thank all of you for your unwavering loyalty and support. Without each and every one of you behind our cause, our cause would be nothing more than another short-lived political spectacle. Because of your support, our movement can live on, and it is for that I am eternally grateful. But we must remain respectful of opposing ideologies if we want our movement to succeed. We must understand the needs and desires of all Americans, and we must work together to ensure that no citizen of our great nation is left behind. With your support, we can move forward, and we can turn this caucus into a party. Thank you, and goodbye."

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And with that, the two-party system was over. A new era had truly begun.
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« Reply #134 on: July 17, 2016, 10:39:05 pm »
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NBC Sits Down with Larry Craig


Matt Lauer interviews Senator Larry Craig in his Idaho home to discuss recent developments on Capitol Hill.

Matt Lauer: Good evening, Senator Craig. How are you today?

Larry Craig: I'm doing well. And you?

Lauer: Great. So, as we both know, you have been the biggest news in national politics - international politics, I'd say - in recent days. You and twenty-one other Senators have announced your formation of a new Conservative Traditionalist Party to oppose the current two-party system and try to get a conservative, anti-Iraq War message to the American people. How are you handling all of the new attention?

Craig: Well, Matt, it's definitely something new. I've always been the type of Senator who tries to get his voice heard, but I never expected anything like this to happen.

Lauer: Did you expect this many other members of the Senate to follow you in joining the CTP?

Craig: Certainly not. At first, it was just the twelve of us, but I think that the last few months have definitely shown a lot of other members of the Senate GOP that the Republican establishment really doesn't care about the individual interests of us or our constituents.

Lauer: Of course. Many of us were simply shocked, for lack of a better word, that so many members of the Republican Party in Congress were willing to leave their party as fast as they did.

Craig: Well, I think what most people don't understand is that a lot of the internal strife between my caucus and the GOP establishment happened behind closed doors. In the public eye, it probably was a surprise that so many of us were willing to split so soon, but I can assure you, it was no spur of the moment decision. In fact, even some Democrats - Senator Zell Miller of Georgia, for example - have opted to join our cause for many of the same reasons.

Lauer: And, if I understand correctly, you also have thirty-seven members of the United States House of Representatives on board as well?

Craig: Correct. I believe the current count is thirty-seven in the House so far, or thirty-nine if you count some of the guys we're still having talks with. But this really isn't a movement just taking place in the United States Senate - you can already see that members of both chambers of Congress, and even two Governors so far, have come out in support of what the American people are saying and have been saying for a very long time.

Lauer: One question I'm sure we've all been asking in recent days - will the Conservative Traditionalist Party nominate its own candidate in the 2004 presidential election?

Craig: I don't know yet, Matt, I don't know. Right now, we've been having some pretty good talks with the RNC, and I believe that we're going to try to form some sort of coalition in presidential and congressional elections in order to make sure that the conservative vote remains united. I think the primary election process will be a very good way to see which candidate conservatives want to see go up against the Democrats in November, but it's definitely too early to make any decisions right now.

Lauer: So, you and the four other presidential candidates aligning with the CTP will still participate on the July 19 debate one week from now?

Craig: Yes. At this time, I believe that's the plan.

Lauer: But your party doesn't plan on nominating a candidate of its own?

Craig: Right now, we really want to focus on making sure the conservative vote isn't accidentally split. That would inadvertently help the Democrats retain control, and we don't want that to happen.

Lauer: But you can't give me a straight answer right now.

Craig: It's too early at this point. We're still working out the details.

Lauer: Alright. Well, I'd like to thank you for participating in this interview, Senator Craig, and do take care. This election season will certainly be one for the history books.

Craig: Absolutely, Matt. You too.

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Original Senate Members of the Conservative Traditional Caucus (Joined May 9) - Senator Craig (C-ID), Senator Brownback (C-KS), Senator Nickles (C-OK), Senator Gramm (C-TX), Senator Thomas (C-WY), Senator Sessions (C-AL), Senator Terrell (C-LA), Senator Burns (C-MT), Senator Inhofe (C-OK), Senator Frist (C-TN), Senator Santorum (C-PA), Senator Allen (C-VA)

Original Senate Members of the Conservative Traditional Party (Joined July 4) - Senator Hutchinson (C-AR), Senator Grassley (C-IA), Senator Bond (C-MO), Senator Bunning (C-KY), Senator Dole (C-NC), Senator Graham (C-SC), Senator Thune (C-SD), Senator Hutchinson (C-TX), Senator Enzi (C-WY), Senator Miller (C-GA)

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Pew Research Center - Presidential Approval (July 12)

Approve - 34% (-2)
Disapprove - 54% (+3)
Undecided - 12% (-1)

Pew Research Center - Political Alignment Among Republicans (July 12)

Conservative Traditional Caucus - 49% (+7)
Mainstream Republican Party - 33% (-10)
Undecided - 18% (+3)

Pew Research Center - Political Alignment Among Democrats (July 12)

Mainstream Democratic Party - 45% (-7)
Progressive People's Caucus - 30% (+6)
Undecided - 25% (+1)

Pew Research Center - National Republican Primary Poll (July 12)

Larry Craig - 36% (+8)
Dick Cheney - 24% (-3)
Richard Lugar - 9% (-2)
John Hoeven - 5% (-1)
Dirk Kempthorne - 4% (-1)
Lamar Alexander - 3% (+/-0)
Frank Murkowski - 2% (-1)
Conrad Burns - 1% (-1)
Alan Keyes - 1% (+/-0)
Jim Bunning - 0% (-1)
Undecided - 15% (+2)

Pew Research Center - National Democratic Primary Poll (July 12)

Al Gore - 41% (-2)
Gary Hart - 32% (+3)
Evan Bayh - 23% (+1)
Undecided - 4% (-2)

Pew Research Center - General Election Match-Ups (July 12)

Al Gore - 44% (+3)
Dick Cheney - 44% (-2)
Undecided - 12% (-1)

Larry Craig - 47% (+2)
Al Gore - 43% (-2)
Undecided - 10% (+/-0)

Gary Hart - 46% (+/-0)
Dick Cheney - 44% (-1)
Undecided - 10% (+1)

Gary Hart - 48% (-1)
Larry Craig - 45% (+3)
Undecided - 7% (-2)

Evan Bayh - 47% (-1)
Dick Cheney - 44% (+/-0)
Undecided - 9% (+1)

Evan Bayh - 47% (-3)
Larry Craig - 45% (+4)
Undecided - 8% (-1)

Al Gore - 39
Larry Craig - 26
Dick Cheney - 21
Undecided - 14

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The First Republican Debate

July 19, 2003 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania - NBC News


Brian Williams: We here at NBC News would like to welcome all of our viewers at home and abroad to the first Republican primary debate of the 2004 presidential election; my name is Brian Williams and right now we're about to begin here at our debate hall in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Let's give a big round of applause to our candidates as they approach their podiums, which have been organized based off of each candidate's standing in a compilation of the most recent national polls recognized by our network:

Murkowski Alexander Hoeven Lugar Cheney Craig Kempthorne Burns Keyes Bunning

The first question goes to Senator Larry Craig of Idaho. Senator Craig, the past few days have seen you become the subject of immense media and political scrutiny as you - along with four of the other candidates on this stage - announced your decision to leave the Republican Party and form your own party based off of the Conservative Traditionalist Caucus you founded in the Senate two months ago. How can you continue to use the resources of the Republican Party and participate in the their presidential debates even after you have declared your intention to disassociate with them? You have one minute and thirty seconds to respond.

Larry Craig: Well look, Brian. I left the Republican Party because I believe that the party's establishment no longer gives an equal voice to the genuine, true conservative values that I was elected by the people of Idaho to represent. This was no easy process - I had some very good discussions with top leaders of the GOP and members of the Republican National Committee, and we decided that the best way to prevent the Democrats from getting another four years in the White House is to join forces and create a united presidential campaign. I and the four other candidates on this stage who align with the CTP would not be on this stage tonight without permission from the RNC, and for that I am extremely grateful.

Dick Cheney: May I respond?

Williams: Senator Cheney may give a one minute response to Senator Craig's answer.

Cheney: When I registered as a member of the Republican Party forty-four years ago, I knew that no one political institution could perfectly represent all of the American people in every way they so choose. But I also knew that the Republican Party was the best medium of political action for the American people to use to get each and every one of their voices heard. I am loyal to the Republican Party, and I would never, ever think of abandoning the party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan. I'm not the kind of guy who loses faith when everything doesn't work out perfectly, and I'm not the kind of guy who quits as soon as something doesn't go my way. But as far as I can tell, Senator Craig is. And so I ask - I ask the people in this hall and I ask all Americans watching this debate tonight - why would you support a man who has betrayed his party for political gain? Why would you support a man who has put his own interest over that of the party and the people who were responsible for electing him to office in the first place?

Williams: Senator Craig, you may give a thirty second response.

Craig: You know what, Dick? I'll answer that question for you. You ask, why are the American people supporting me? They're supporting me because they know I put my values over my politics, and they're supporting me because I chose to go in my own direction to fight for the American people rather than work to please the Washington establishment for their money and support. And don't you dare attack the people who elected me to office, the people of Idaho, for the choice they've made. More people are giving me their support in the polls than any other candidate, and I'll tell you, I represent the people of Idaho a lot damn better than the Republican establishment ever could.

Williams: Alright, alright. Senator Lugar, the next question is for you. What are your thoughts on the recent terrorist attack that took place at the Tikrit Air Academy two weeks ago, and how would you as President take steps to ensure that no future attacks of this magnitude occur?

Richard Lugar: Well, that's a great question, Brian, and I'd first of all I'd like to thank NBC News and the Republican National Committee for hosting this great debate this evening. The terrorist attack that occurred in Tikrit on July 4 was the largest single loss of American life since the September 11 attacks two years ago, and my sincerest condolences go out to all of those who lost family, friends, and loved ones as a result of the assault. As President, I would work with the Joint Chiefs of Staff to formulate a comprehensive, effective plan that not only eradicates al-Qaeda and the Hussein Administration from the face of this earth, but also ensures that a strong, democratic government can be put in place in the region once the war is over. Right now, I don't think the Gore Administration is going far enough to...

Conrad Burns: See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. The Republican establishment is so busy drooling about increased involvement in Iraq that they can't even focus on -

Williams: Senator Burns, it is not your turn to speak right now. Please allow Senator Lugar to finish.

Burns: Oh, come on. How can we ignore...

Williams: Senator Burns, it is not your turn to speak. Allow Senator Lugar to finish his answer or you will not be allowed to speak for the rest of the debate.

Burns: Fine.

Lugar: Umm... thank you. As I was saying earlier, I don't think the Gore Administration has done enough at this juncture to make sure that each of America's military bases around the world are adequately prepared to resist attempted attacks or infiltration from terrorist organizations, as was evident in the bombings that occurred in Tikrit on July 4. As President, I will do everything in my power to assure that our brothers, sisters, sons, and daughters serving abroad never again have to face the abhorrence of a terrorist attack, and to make sure that all Americans currently serving in our nation's military are brought home safely and as soon as possible.

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Fox News Post-Debate Poll: Political Alignment Among Republicans (July 19)

Conservative Traditional Caucus - 56% (+7)
Mainstream Republican Party - 31% (-2)
Undecided - 13% (-5)

Fox News Post-Debate Poll: National Republican Primary Poll (July 19)

Larry Craig - 40% (+4)
Dick Cheney - 21% (-3)
Richard Lugar - 14% (+5)
Dirk Kempthorne - 6% (+2)
John Hoeven - 5% (+/-0)
Lamar Alexander - 3% (+/-0)
Conrad Burns - 1% (+/-0)
Frank Murkowski - 1% (-1)
Jim Bunning - 0% (+/-0)
Alan Keyes - 0% (-1)
Undecided - 9% (-6)

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« Reply #137 on: July 22, 2016, 04:24:53 pm »
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The First Democratic Debate

August 12, 2003 in Portland, Oregon - CNN


Wolf Blitzer: Good evening, I'm Wolf Blitzer, and right now we here at CNN would like to welcome all of our viewers to the first Democratic primary debate of the 2004 presidential election here at Portland State University in Oregon. Right now, the three candidates - President Al Gore of Tennessee, former Senator Gary Hart of Colorado, and Senator Evan Bayh of Indiana - have each taken the stage, with their podiums ordered using an aggregation of recent national polls. The first question goes to our center-stage candidate, none other than President Gore himself. President Gore, how do you believe your Administration's policies regarding the Iraq War are currently aiding what many are describing as an increasingly critical situation in the region? If you could go back in time and change one decision you've made so far regarding our military's actions in Iraq, what would it be?

Al Gore: Well first of all, Wolf, let me be absolutely clear that our sons and daughters serving abroad have been making incredible progress in recent weeks. Ever since American forces successfully took control of Baghdad back in May, our Administration has been working as hard as possible to ensure that a permanent stable government is put in place in the region, and I believe that our actions are certainly working. Already, the provisional Iraqi government has declared that municipal elections will be taking place throughout the nation over the course of the next two years, and with the help of coalition forces, Iraq will soon be able to transition to a fair and free democratic system of government for the first time in decades. Every week throughout my first term, I've been able to  talk with our soldiers and military commanders currently on the ground in the area, and by all accounts it seems like Iraq is on its way to a much brighter future.

Blitzer: What is your response to the second part of the question?

Gore: Of course. The terrorist attack that took place in Tikrit last month was absolutely devastating, and if I could I would do anything - anything - humanly possible to go back and assure that those one hundred and seventy-one brave American soldiers did not die in vain. Over the course of the next year and a half, I will be working closely with our nation's top military advisers to assure that the right security is put in place in order for every single man and woman currently serving abroad to know once more that they are safe from forces of evil.

Blitzer: Senator Bayh, do you have a response to President Gore's answer?

Evan Bayh: Absolutely, Wolf. Let's be clear - the recent terrorist attack that took two hundred and fifty-three innocent lives at the Tikrit Air Academy would not have happened had this Administration taken the proper steps to make sure that each and every American military installation in the region had the proper security measures necessary to prevent this kind of assault. I've said it once and I'll say it again; America needs to stop treating the War in Iraq like it's just another war, like it's just another part of our foreign policy that only requires some of our attention. The rise of terrorism is the most pressing national security issue our nation has ever faced, and, if elected President, I will make it my absolute top priority to ensure that no more of our nation's sons and daughters at home or abroad are put in harm's way. This Administration has failed the American people by refusing to devote enough attention to national security, and if the people of our great nation allow me to serve as our next Commander-in-Chief, I will make sure that the American people will never again have to endure such atrocities as we have increasingly scene every since September 11, 2001.

Blitzer: Senator Hart, the next question is for you. As we all know, the Democratic Party has throughout the past few weeks seen a number of defections, with members of both chambers of the United States Congress citing what they believe is a failed Iraq War policy on the part of the Gore Administration as a reason to leave their party. Most recently, Senator Barbara Boxer of California and fourteen other members of the United States Senate have announced that they will join Senators Russ Feingold and Daniel Inouye in changing their official party registration from Democratic to Independent. Many of the congresspeople who have left the Democratic Party, including Senator Boxer herself, have already endorsed you in your bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. How can we count on you, Senator Hart, to remain within the Democratic Party when so many of your supporters have opted not to do so?

Gary Hart: Throughout the entire course of my life, I always have been and will always be a loyal member of the Democratic Party. While I respect the decision of Senator Boxer and her colleagues to make the choice that they feel best represents their values, I believe that the best platform for progressives and liberals to get our voices heard is through the Democratic Party, and so no, I have no intention whatsoever to leave anytime soon.

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CNN Post-Debate Poll: Political Alignment Among Democrats (August 12)

Mainstream Democratic Party - 40% (-5)
Progressive People's Caucus - 39% (+9)
Undecided - 21% (-4)

CNN Post-Debate Poll: National Democratic Primary Poll (August 12)

Al Gore - 39% (-2)
Evan Bayh - 30% (+7)
Gary Hart - 28% (-4)
Undecided - 3% (-1)

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« Reply #138 on: July 22, 2016, 09:21:56 pm »
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Go Lugar/Go Hart! Great job so far!
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« Reply #139 on: July 23, 2016, 09:13:36 pm »
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This is looking better and better. Wonder if Obama will make an appearance.
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