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« on: May 16, 2013, 07:12:01 pm »
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What if Abraham Lincoln came back from the dead and the Republicans nominated him to challenge President Obama? Who would Lincoln's running mate be? Mitt Romney? Herman Cain? A southerner to balance the ticket?How bad would Obama lose? Could Lincoln get a 50 state sweep? Also, could Lincoln possibly win the African American / Hispanic vote? Explain with maps.
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« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 10:16:45 pm »
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2013, 12:02:18 am »
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Mark Kirk would be Lincoln's running mate. But Lincoln has already served two terms. If Lincoln took sides on modern day issues, half the GOP would desert him. Plus, Obama would concede to Lincoln. He is Obama's main inspiration.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2013, 05:29:11 am »
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Quote from: Emperor Charles V on May 16, 2013, 07:12:01 pm
What if Abraham Lincoln came back from the dead and the Republicans nominated him to challenge President Obama? Who would Lincoln's running mate be? Mitt Romney? Herman Cain? A southerner to balance the ticket?How bad would Obama lose? Could Lincoln get a 50 state sweep? Also, could Lincoln possibly win the African American / Hispanic vote? Explain with maps.

Lincoln/Cain 2012!
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« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2013, 07:03:18 am »
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Here's what I would say:



Abraham Lincoln / Mitt Romney (Republican) - 531 EV / 96% PV
Barack Obama / Joe Biden (Democrat) - 7 EV / 4% PV
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« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 07:07:25 am »
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Lincoln running would be unconstitutional...
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« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2013, 07:59:03 am »
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Quote from: Solopop on May 17, 2013, 07:07:25 am
Lincoln running would be unconstitutional...

Well since his first two terms were before the 22nd was passed and he is Abe Lincoln, maybe the Supreme Court can make an exception for him...
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« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2013, 08:03:07 am »
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Quote from: Emperor Charles V on May 17, 2013, 07:03:18 am
Here's what I would say:



Abraham Lincoln / Mitt Romney (Republican) - 531 EV / 96% PV
Barack Obama / Joe Biden (Democrat) - 7 EV / 4% PV

I think the South would vote for Obama.
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« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2013, 08:05:58 am »
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Quote from: JulioMadrid on May 17, 2013, 08:03:07 am
I think the South would vote for Obama.

No, despite the fact they fought a war against him, I think the south would vote for Lincoln because he is way more conservative on social issues than Obama.
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« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2013, 08:39:38 am »
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Quote from: Solopop on May 17, 2013, 07:07:25 am
Lincoln running would be unconstitutional...

Well since his first two terms were before the 22nd was passed and he is Abe Lincoln, maybe the Supreme Court can make an exception for him...

Don't think so, the supreme court is there to uphold the constitution not bend the rules for people, if someone had been born ten years before the 22nd amendment was passed should they be allowed to run for more than 2 terms? No...
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« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2013, 09:34:20 am »
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Obviously, this is all nutso, but Lincoln served less than a year of his second term. He didn't serve two full terms. So maybe the Supreme Court would rule he was eligible.
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Seriously? Why does Lincoln lose so badly?
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Lincoln wins unanimously although Obama is able to capitalize off of the ultraconservative Southern Republicans while Lincoln gains the people who vote Republican blindly as well as the moderates. Residual Democratic support still lingers in CA, VT, NY, DE, MD, HI.
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Lincoln wins unanimously although Obama is able to capitalize off of the ultraconservative Southern Republicans while Lincoln gains the people who vote Republican blindly as well as the moderates. Residual Democratic support still lingers in CA, VT, NY, DE, MD, HI.

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« Reply #16 on: May 22, 2013, 10:42:50 am »
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Maybe something like this:



Former President Abrahan Lincoln (R-IL)/Senator Rob Portman (R-OH): 356 Electoral Votes
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/Vice-President Joe Biden (D-DE): 99 Electoral Votes
Former Senator Rick Santorum (Tea Party-PA)/Congressman Mick Mulvaney(Tea Party-SC): 83 Electoral Votes
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