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« Reply #1525 on: November 08, 2014, 12:26:46 pm »
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Presidents of the United States
18. Ulysses S. Grant (Republican) 1869-1873
19. Charles O'Conor (Democratic) 1873-1881
20. James Garfield (Radical Democracy) 1881*
21. Chester A. Arthur (Radical Democracy) 1881-1886*
23. John Sherman (Radical Democracy) 1886-1889
24. Benjamin Harrison (Radical Democracy) 1889-1897
25. Thomas B. Reed (Radical Democracy) 1897-1902*
26. Theodore Roosevelt (Radical Democracy) 1902-1919*
27. Hiram Johnson (Radical Democracy) 1919-1921
28. Charles E. Russell (Independent) 1921-1925
29. Robert La Follette (Radical) 1925*
30. Burton K. Wheeler (Radical) 1925-1933
31. Franklin Roosevelt (Liberal Democrat) 1933-1940**
32. Douglas MacArthur (National Rally) 1940-1944***

*Died in office.
**Resigned, along with his Vice President John Nance Garner, after appointing Douglas MacArthur as Secretary of State and allowing the transfer of power to his right-wing nationalist regime as civil war raged across the nation.
***Overthrown with the conclusion of the American Revolution in 1944. Constitution of 1788-89 suspended and a new constitutional convention called by the victorious revolutionaries.

General-Secretaries of the American Workers' Republic

1. Dwight Eisenhower (American Section of the Communist International) 1944-1946
2. Haim Kantorovich (League of Social Democrats) 1946-1954
3. Dorothy Day (Christian Workers' Movement) 1954-1959
4. Dwight Eisenhower (Communist Party) 1959-1969
5. Malcolm Little (Communist Party) 1969-1974
6. Murray Bookchin (Communalist Action) 1974-1981
7. Fred Hampton (Socialist Workers Party) 1981-1995
8. Richard Wolff (Communist Party) 1995-2007
9. Chris Hedges (Communist Party) 2007-2012
10. Kshama Sawant (Socialist Workers Party) 2012-
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« Reply #1526 on: November 08, 2014, 02:47:24 pm »
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Alternate List Two, this time the divergence lands on Kennedy not being assasinated

1. John F. Kennedy(MA)/Lyndon Johnson (TX) (1961-1969)
2. Lyndon Johnson(TX)/Hubert Humphrey(MN) (1969-1973)
3. Nelson Rockefeller (NY)*/Gerald Ford (MI) (1973-1974)
4. Gerald Ford (MI)/Bob Dole (KS) (1974-1981)
5. Jimmy Carter(GA)/Walter Mondale(MN) (1981-1985)
6. George Bush(TX)/Howard Baker(TN)(1985-1993)
7. Jerry Brown(CA)/Jesse Jackson (MS) (1993-1997)
8. Lamar Alexander (TN)/Al D'Amato (NY) (1997-2001)
9. Al Gore (TN)/Bob Kerrey (NE) (2001-2009)
10. Rick Santorum (PA)/ Lindsey Graham (SC) (2009-2013)
11. Barack Obama (IL)/ Janet Napolitano (AZ) (2013- Present)

Defeated Tickets

1. Richard Nixon (CA)/Henry Cabot Lodge (MA)
2. Barry Goldwater (AZ)/ Prescott Bush (CT)
3. George Romney (MI)/John Tower (TX)
4. Hubert Humphrey (MN)/ Ed Muskie (ME)
5. Ed Muskie (ME)/Frank Church (ID)
6. Bob Dole (KS)/John Connally (TX)
7. Jimmy Carter (GA)/Walter Mondale (MN)
8. Gary Hart (CO)/Michael Dukakis (MA)
9. John Warner (VA)/Dan Quayle (IN)
10. Bill Clinton (AR)/ Richard Gephardt (MO)
11. Lamar Alexander (TN)/ Al D'Amato (NY)
12. John McCain (AZ)/ Jeb Bush (FL)
13. John Edwards (NC)/  Russ Feingold (WI)
14. Rick Santorum (PA)/ Lindsey Graham (SC)
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« Reply #1527 on: November 08, 2014, 04:00:11 pm »
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Considered making this a timeline, but considering my previous attempts at timelines from distant electoral history it is probably better I make a brief synopsis instead. Consider this a reboot of the "A Tale of Two Texans" timeline:

John Kennedy/Lyndon Johnson 1961-1965

Thought by virtually everyone to be a lock for reelection, Kennedy largely took a second term for granted against Barry Goldwater. Despite trailing by double digits in preelection polls, Goldwater secured a narrow victory in both the popular vote and the Electoral College, winning the key states of California (largely thanks to devoted campaigning by surrogates Governor Richard Nixon and actor Ronald Reagan), Texas (where Johnson's removal from the Democratic ticket stung the most), Illinois (where Dirksen helped more than expected and Daley underestimated the need for additional "help"), and every Southern state except North Carolina (which continued their post-1952 trend to the GOP.)

Barry Goldwater/Everett Dirksen 1965-1969

Large gains in the House and Senate gave the GOP only narrow minorities in both chambers, which allowed Goldwater to significantly rein in federal spending thanks to a coalition of conservative Republicans and Boll Weevil Democrats. However, a minor recession in 1966 restored Democrats' effective control of both chambers, which while falling short of veto-proof was substantive enough to thwart most of Goldwater's domestic agenda. In foreign policy, Goldwater's reputation as a loose cannon proved effective at bringing the North Vietnamese to the negotiating table, securing an armistice to the Vietnam conflict as well as a gradual withdrawal of American forces deployed there in 1964. Frustration with partisan gridlock propelled Governor Romney to a popular albeit ill-fated primary battle with the sitting President, draining resources from the tough general election to follow.

Lyndon Johnson/Hubert Humphrey 1969-1973

Ousted Vice-President Johnson proved a much more formidable opponent than the man who dumped him. Johnson easily bested primary opponents Senator Humphrey and Governor Sanford, touting his electability and ability to get things done. Although Johnson ruthlessly attacked the President for being ineffectual, stubborn, and crazy, Johnson's distastefulness kept the battle a close one. Ultimately, Johnson narrowly prevailed. However, Johnson did not have enough coattails to obtain substantial legislative majorities, leading to mixed success in implementing his Great Society agenda.

Richard Nixon/George Bush 1973-1981

The President's ailing health, renewed North Vietnamese attacks (and subsequent increased American involvement), a divided Democratic Party, and domestic civil unrest all worked to Governor Nixon's favor as he secured an impressive victory over Vice-President Humphrey. Nixon once again escalated the Vietnam conflict, launching a merciless bombing campaign against the North for violating the 1966 peace accord. The tide of the war appeared to have turned enough that Nixon implemented his plan of Vietnamization. On the domestic front, Nixon enacted wage and price controls and ended the Bretton Woods monetary system, while increasing efforts to desegregate the South. Events went downhill for Nixon after winning a landslide second term, as the culmination of an oil crisis, stagflation, the Iranian revolution, and scandals came to define his administration.

Jerry Brown/Walter Mondale 1981-

Nixon's successor to the California governorship ultimately became his successor to the Presidency, as public sentiment toward the outgoing administration proved so hostile that even Vice-President Bush's attacks on Brown's social liberalism and the October 28 release of American hostages from the Iranian embassy proved insufficient to overcome Brown's massive lead.

Defeated tickets:
1964: John Kennedy/Terry Sanford
1968: Barry Goldwater/Everett Dirksen
1972: Hubert Humphrey/Edmund Muskie
1976: Edmund Muskie/Henry Jackson
1980: George Bush/Donald Rumsfeld
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« Reply #1528 on: November 08, 2014, 04:29:28 pm »
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33.  Harry Truman (D-MO) / Alben Barkley (D-KY); 1945-1949
34.  Thomas Dewey (R-NY) / Earl Warren (R-CA); 1949-1953
35.  Franklin Roosevelt, Jr. (D-NY) / Estes Kefauver (D-TN); 1953-1955 [1]
36.  Estes Kefauver (D-TN) / Hubert Humphrey (D-MN); 1955-1961

37.  Prescott Bush (R-CT) / Richard Nixon (R-CA); 1961-1969
38.  Hubert Humphrey (D-MN) / Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA); 1969-1977
39.  Henry "Scoop" Jackson (D-WA) / Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX); 1977-1978 [2]
40.  Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) / Tip O'Neil (D-MA); 1978-1981 

41.  George H.W. Bush (R-TX) / Howard Baker (R-TN); 1981-1989
42.  Bill Clinton (D-AR) / Mario Cuomo (D-NY); 1989-1993
43.  Bob Dole (R-KS) / Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL); 1993-2001
44.  Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) / George Allen (R-VA); 2001-2005

45.  John Kerry (D-MA) / Bill Richardson (D-NM); 2005-2013
46.  Mitt Romney (R-MA) / John McCain (R-AZ); 2013-present

[1] President Roosevelt is assassinated in New York City on March 3, 1955.  Vice President Estes Kefauver assumes office; Hubert Humphrey is elected VP alongside Kefauver in 1956. 

[2] President Jackson dies in Washington on October 23, 1978 following a stroke.  Vice President Lloyd Bentsen assumes office; the Senate confirms Speaker of the House Tip O'Neil as Vice President on November 15, 1978.   
That looks like a pretty good list! BTW, does Strom Thurmond mount a third-party bid against President Estes Kefauver in 1956 over the Civil Rights issue?

Thanks, I've been thinking about fleshing it out into a TL.  The prospect of a Prescott Bush presidency from 1961 to 1969 I just find very intriguing.  What if the Great Society was a Republican-led initiative?  How does that affect both parties going forward?

As for the Strom Thurmond issue, I think 1950s Democrats would be pretty mum on the Civil Rights issue.  Pressy's going to take care of Civil Rights come the '60s though. 
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« Reply #1529 on: November 08, 2014, 05:53:26 pm »
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George H.W. Bush (R-TX)/Phil Crane (R-IL) 1981-1989
Howard Baker (R-TN)/Bill Armstrong (R-CO) 1989-1997
Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Bill Bradley (D-NJ) 1997-2001
John McCain (R-AZ)/Chuck Hagel (R-NE) 2001-2009
Barack Obama (D-IL)/Joe Biden (D-DE) 2009-2017
Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Mary Landrieu (D-LA) 2017-2021
Cory Gardner (R-CO)/Charlie Baker (R-MA) 2021-2029
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« Reply #1530 on: November 09, 2014, 12:00:18 am »
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37. Robert F. Kennedy: 1969-1973
38. Ronald Reagan: 1973-1981
39. Gerald Ford: 1981-1989
40. Michael Dukakis: 1989-1997
41. Bill Clinton: 1997-2001
42. John McCain: 2001-2009
43. John Kerry: 2009-2013
44. Mitt Romney: 2013-
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« Reply #1531 on: November 11, 2014, 01:43:46 am »
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2000: Bush opts out
Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC) 2001-2005
John Kerry (D-MA)/Hillary Clinton (D-NY) 2005-2009
Michael Steele (R-MD)/Orrin Hatch (R-UT) 2009-2017
Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) 2017-2021
Justin Amash (R-MI)/George P. Bush (R-TX) 2021-2029

Defeated Tickets:
2000: Al Gore (D-TN)/Joe Lieberman (I-CT)
2004: Dan Quayle (R-IN)/Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)
2008: John Kerry (D-MA)/Hillary Clinton (D-NY)
2012: Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Bill Nelson (D-FL)
2016: Chris Cristie (R-NJ)/Scott Walker (R-WI)
2020: Brian Schweitzer (D-MT)/Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)
2024: Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Tim Kaine (D-VA)
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« Reply #1532 on: November 11, 2014, 10:51:05 am »
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Presidents: 2017-2049
45. Hillary Clinton: 2017-2021
46. Brian Sandoval: 2021-2029
47. Cory Gardner: 2029-2033

48. Julian Castro: 2033-2041
49. George P. Bush: 2041-2049

Defeated Tickets: 2016-2048

2016: Rand Paul/Kelly Ayotte
2020: Cory Booker/Gavin Newsom
2024: Joseph P. Kennedy/Tammy Baldwin
2028: Kirsten Gillibrand/Kamala Harris
2032: Cory Gardner/George P. Bush
2036: Marco Rubio/Mia Love
2040: Chelsea Clinton/Joaquin Castro
2044: Unknown Democrat/Unknown Democrat
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« Reply #1533 on: November 12, 2014, 07:02:17 pm »
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Madam President:

Sen. Margaret Chase Smith (R-ME)/Gov. Ronald Reagan (R-CA) 1969-1977
VP. Ronald Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
Sen. Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX)/Gov. Dixy Lee Ray (D-WA) 1981-1989
Sen. Nancy Kassebaum (R-KS)/Sen. Richard Lugar (R-IN) 1989-1997
Gov. Bill Clinton (D-AR)/Carol Moseley Braun (D-IL)* 1997-2001
SoS. Elizabeth Dole (R-NC)/Sen. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA) 2001-2005
Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY)/Sen. John Edwards (D-NC)* 2005-2009
VP. Barry Goldwater Jr. (R-CA)/Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) 2009-2017
Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL)/Sen. Kristen Gillibrand (D-NY) 2017-2021
Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC)/Gov. Charlie Baker (R-MA) 2021-

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44. Barack Obama: 2009-2017
45. Christopher Christie: 2017-2021
45. Kirsten Gillibrand: 2021-2029
46. Julian Castro: 2029-2037

46. Cory Gardner: 2037-2045

Defeated Tickets:
2016: Hillary Clinton/Mark Warner
2020: Chris Christie/Scott Walker
2024: Scott Walker/Charlie Baker
2028: Aaron Shock/Pat Toomey
2032: Justin Amash/Josh Romney

2036: Allison Lundergan Grimes/Gavin Newsom
2040: Unknown Democrat/Unknown Democrat

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A Primary Challenge and Madam President

45. Hillary Clinton / Brian Schweitzer: 2013-2021
46. Chris Christie / Susana Martinez: 2021-2029
47. Susana Martinez / Larry Hogan: 2029-2037
48. Cory Booker / Eric Stalwell: 2037-?
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37. Hubert Humphrey: 1969-1977
38. Ronald Reagan: 1977-1981
39. Gary Hart: 1981-1989
40. George H.W. Bush: 1989-1997
41. Bob Dole: 1997-2001
42. Bill Clinton: 2001-2009
43. Mitt Romney: 2009-2017

Defeated Tickets:
1968: Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew
1972: Nelson Rockefeller/Gerald Ford
1976: Edmund Muskie/Walter Mondale
1980: Ronald Reagan/Gerald Ford
1984: Gerald Ford/Howard Baker
1988: Jimmy Carter/Michael Dukakis
1992: Paul Tsongas/Al Gore
1996: Mario Cuomo/Sam Nunn

2000: John McCain/John Engler
2004: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney

2008: John Kerry/Howard Dean
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Going South

37. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/James D. Martin (R-AL) 1969-1974
38. James D. Martin (R-AL)/vacant, Gerald R. Ford (R-MI) 1974-1981
39. William Proxmire (D-WI)/Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 1981-1989
40. Haley Barbour (R-MS)/Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1989-1997
41. Paul Tsongas (D-MA)/J. James Exon (D-NE) 1997-1998
42. J. James Exon (D-NE)/vacant, Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN) 1998-2001

43. J. Richard Perry (R-TX)/Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL) 2001-2009/color]
44. Russell Feingold (D-WI)/Joseph R. Biden (D-DE) 2009-2017
45. Albert Gore, Jr. (D-TN)/Barack Obama (D-IL) 2017-2021

46. Scott Brown (R-MA)/Thomas Cotton (R-AR) 2021-?
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Here's one where the Republicans don't go crazy right-wing. Kennedy defeats Reagan by a landslide in 1980.

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1974-1977
38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Bob Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Frank Church (D-ID) 1981-84
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Gary Hart (D-CO) 1984-89
40. Gary Hart (D-CO) / Joe Biden (D-DE) 1989-1993
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) / Lowell Weicker (R-CT) 1993-2001
42. Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Kerry (D-MA) 2001-2005
43. John McCain (R-AZ) / Arlen Specter (R-PA) 2005-2009
43. Elizabeth Warren (R-MA) / Gordon Smith (R-OR) 2009-2017
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Here's one where the Republicans don't go crazy right-wing. Kennedy defeats Reagan by a landslide in 1980.

38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Nelson Rockefeller (R-NY) 1974-1977
38. Gerald Ford (R-MI) / Bob Dole (R-KS) 1977-1981
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Frank Church (D-ID) 1981-84
39. Ted Kennedy (D-MA) / Gary Hart (D-CO) 1984-89
40. Gary Hart (D-CO) / Joe Biden (D-DE) 1989-1993
41. Bob Dole (R-KS) / Lowell Weicker (R-CT) 1993-2001
42. Gary Hart (D-CO) / John Kerry (D-MA) 2001-2005
43. John McCain (R-AZ) / Arlen Specter (R-PA) 2005-2009
43. Elizabeth Warren (R-MA) / Gordon Smith (R-OR) 2009-2017

Interesting list. I forgot about Elizabeth Warren being a Republican at one point.
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1. John Adams (Federalist-MA) 1789-1797
2. Thomas Jefferson (Republican-VA) 1797-1801
3. John Adams (F-MA) 1801-1809
4. Charles Pinckney (F-SC) 1809-1817
5. Rufus King (F-MA) 1817-1825
6. Andrew Jackson (R-TN) 1825-1829
7. John Q. Adams (F-MA) 1829-1837
8. William H. Harrison (F-OH) 1837-1841
9. Martin Van Buren (R-NY) 1841*
10. Richard M. Johnson (R-KY) 1841-1845
11. Henry Clay (F-KY) 1845-1849
12. Lewis Cass (R-MI) 1849-1850*
13. William O. Butler (R-KY) 1850-1853
14. Winfield Scott (F-NJ) 1853-1857
15. John C. Fremont (F-CA) 1857-1861
16. Stephen Douglas (R-IL) 1861-1865**
17. Herschel V. Johnson (R-GA) 1865-1869
18. Horatio Seymour (R-NY) 1869-1877
19. Samuel Tilden (R-NY) 1877-1881
20. Winfield S. Hancock (R-PA) 1881**
21. William H. English (R-IN) 1881-1885
22. James G. Blaine (F-ME) 1885-1889
23. Grover Cleveland (R-NY) 1889-1893
24. Benjamin Harrison (F-IN) 1893-1897
25. William J. Bryan (R-NE) 1897-1901**
26. Adlai Stevenson I (R-IL) 1901-1909
27. John A. Johnson (R-MN) 1909-1913
28. Theodore Roosevelt (Democratic-NY) 1913-1921
29. James Cox (R-OH) 1921-1923*
30. Franklin Roosevelt (R-NY) 1923-1929
31. Al Smith (R-NY) 1929-1933
32. Herbert Hoover (F-CA) 1933-1945*
33. John W. Bricker (F-OH) 1945-1953
34. Adlai Stevenson II (R-IL) 1953-1961
35. Richard M. Nixon (F-CA) 1961-1963**
36. Henry C. Lodge (F-MA) 1963-1969
37. Hubert H. Humphrey (R-MN) 1969-1974***
38. Eugene McCarthy (R-MN) 1974-1977
39. Gerald Ford (R-MI) 1977-1981
40. Jimmy Carter (R-GA) 1981-1989
41. Michael Dukakis (R-MA) 1989-1993
42. George H.W. Bush (F-TX) 1993-2001
43. Albert A. "Al" Gore (R-TN) 2001-2009
44. John McCain (F-AZ) 2009-2017

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