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« Reply #125 on: November 30, 2011, 10:31:37 pm »

1980 Democratic Convention
St. Louis, Missouri
July 18th – July 20th

Day One – Notable Speakers
Keynote Speaker: Patton Wyde (D-MS)
Senator Joan Finney (D-KS)
Governor Ed King (D-MA)
Governor Bill Clinton (D-AR)

Day Two – Notable Speakers
Representative Mo Udall (D-AZ)
Senator Scott Westman (D-MT)
Senator Jefferson Dent (D-AL)
Senator Ed Muskie (D-ME)

Day Three
Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA)
Senator Warren Magnuson (D-WA)
Senator Frank Church (D-ID)
Nominee Henry “Scoop” Jackson (D-WA)

Summary: The 1980 Democratic Convention took place on a hot, sunny weekend in St. Louis, Missouri. Nominee Jackson and the leadership had an enduring problem beset them: uniting the Democratic primary after a divisive battle between the establishmentarians, labor unions, and conservatives, and the younger generation of minorities and the youth. In response, Chairman Wendell Ford organized each day to placate disaffected Democrats. The rising stars were given the first day and two members of “The Big Four” were given the second day on the condition that their speeches were themed on unity.

Patton Wyde, the freshman Senator and keynote speaker gave a fiery address, blasting the Ford administration for “beating around the bush” and “cowering” in face of the Iranians. He also railed on the scandal involving former HUD Secretary Buddy Cianci and the weakness of the economy. Governors King and Clinton similarly harped on the economy and pro-life Senator Joan Finney’s address was met with mixed reception.

While Senator Westman’s address on day two was energetic, combative, and bitingly partisan, the other speakers seemed downcast and morose. Senator Jefferson Dent seemed bitter, only insisting that the Democratic Party must continue to fight for progressive ideals. Not once was nominee Scoop Jackson mentioned by name.

The third day was comprised mainly of senior Democratic Senators, including Senator Ted Kennedy, whom despite being a liberal icon stressed the need for a party that had not won the White House in sixteen years. After which, Nominee Scoop Jackson addressed the convention:

“Greetings, my fellow Democrats. It is good to be here in St. Louis on this summer day, though as many of us know, not all of America is experiencing the joy that we are. I would like to first tell to you a tale of a nation in despair. The economy was in absolute shambles and serious doubt about our future was beginning to settle in. The people, in the last three election cycles, kept voting in a Republican administration despite its’ repeated failures in governance, and repeated scandals that called into question its’ integrity. The Democratic Party was left to scratch their heads, why despite the abject failure of the incumbents, they had not won the White House in sixteen years.

The Democratic nominating process was divisive that year, as well. It was only after great attrition that he convention had been settled and a nominee had been chosen. You may be at home, or in the galleries, asking yourself, “What time period is Scoop talking about?” The answer is the Great Depression, although it is all too similar to the times that we face today.  Our only hope is that history will also repeat itself for the better.

I recognize that some of you in the galleries are disillusioned, questioning if I am at all superior to my Republican counterparts. I would like to tout my credentials as a true Democrat, and in many respects one that you would find yourselves agreeing with. Despite what my detractors may think, I was quite proud to vote for the Civil Rights Act and opposed the inquisition-like tactics of Joseph McCarthy.

I was also quite proud to champion the cause of environmental protection. In the sixties, I led the way to protect millions of acres of national forests. I helped fight against the President when he attempted to lift the price controls, as if the oil companies were not gouging the American people enough. I joined opposition against Kemp-Roth, the billionaire’s break.

For those of you in the younger generation of Democrats, skeptical of my candidacy, I ask you to reconsider. The Republican Party is an albatross that will bring our nation to its knees. I have consulted with The Big Four and promise to take into consideration their thoughts when governing as president. Americans, we are at a crossroads: we can stick with the old policies of the past, which have been given over a decade to work. Alternatively, you can elect to take a new course. I strongly urge you to choose the latter, as we cannot survive four more years of Republican largesse. Republicans, Democrats, liberals, conservatives, please heed my call!"

Scoop Jackson's speech was met with thunderous applause. Subsequently, he announced his selection of Senator Lloyd Bentsen for a running-mate, whom was confirmed by acclamation by the delegation.
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« Reply #126 on: November 30, 2011, 10:39:37 pm »
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How did I miss this?  Reading now, liking the start....
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« Reply #127 on: November 30, 2011, 10:49:31 pm »

HEAD-TO-HEAD MATCHUPS

July 24th, 1980

Key:

Safe Republican: >10%

Slight Republican: 4-9%

Tossup: 3% difference

Slight Democratic: 4-9%

Safe Democratic: >10%

Baker vs Jackson



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« Reply #128 on: November 30, 2011, 11:02:35 pm »
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A suggestion for the Dem VP nominee: I will be using this character in a high position of power in my own tl soon. However, assuming Scoop doesn't choose a Southerner, I'd suggest Senator Moynihan of NY for VP.
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« Reply #129 on: November 30, 2011, 11:05:03 pm »

A suggestion for the Dem VP nominee: I will be using this character in a high position of power in my own tl soon. However, assuming Scoop doesn't choose a Southerner, I'd suggest Senator Moynihan of NY for VP.

Well, there is no reason why we both can't use him in different forms. Smiley

Not sure if you missed the VP pick, since I rather subtly stuffed it in at the end.

How did I miss this?  Reading now, liking the start....

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« Reply #130 on: November 30, 2011, 11:11:51 pm »
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Oh, I missed it. It appears you're staying the course from the original on this specific issue. One request: could you include pictures more often? I find they add a sense of realism to a tl. We get illustrations of the "characters".
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« Reply #131 on: December 01, 2011, 08:22:58 am »
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Great update! It looks like it's Church's election to lose as of right now.
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« Reply #132 on: December 01, 2011, 04:02:33 pm »

Oh, I missed it. It appears you're staying the course from the original on this specific issue. One request: could you include pictures more often? I find they add a sense of realism to a tl. We get illustrations of the "characters".

I am generally reluctant to do so, as I intend for this to read more like a novel than the old-school history book format that the rank and file timelines use. However, I suppose I could warrant putting a few in the TIME articles. The crowd shall get what they want! Smiley

Great update! It looks like it's Church's election to lose as of right now.

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« Reply #133 on: December 11, 2011, 11:50:48 am »

Go West: 1980

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A sun lit sky floated over Portland around five o’clock in the afternoon. Though bright out, it had been unusually cool for a summer day, even in Maine. Thad had been sitting in his living room, sipping a glass of Moxie mixed with whiskey, when several knocks impacted the door. As if they had been expected, Thad set down his glass and answered the door to find the altruistic Hank Stevenson.

“I hope you’ve got everything packed. We have to leave for the airport soon, my friend,” he said with subtle elation. The excitement of going to his first national convention had helped dim his pessimism. Thad however, had found himself overcome with trepidation at the prospect of boarding an airplane; something he had not done since the Vietnam War. Thad had been drinking to ameliorate his apprehension, though it helped little.

“Don’t be so afraid, little guy.” Hank would say reassuringly. “I know you’ve got the jitters, but airplanes can be pretty darn safe.” Thad would sigh and look towards the floor for a moment, before saying, “I suppose you are right,” in an uplifted tone. “We’re going to meet a lot of people and you never know what kind of prospects it could lead to. We’d best get going to California, this could be history in the making!” Hank would boom with great jubilance. Little did they realize how right he would be.
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« Reply #134 on: December 11, 2011, 01:41:48 pm »
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Wan't the 1980 RNC in Detroit? Angry
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« Reply #135 on: December 11, 2011, 08:34:55 pm »

Wan't the 1980 RNC in Detroit? Angry

In our own timeline, yes.

I chose Los Angeles for this one though. Not to mention that the 1980 DNC was in Madison Square Garden and I moved it to St. Louis.
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« Reply #136 on: December 11, 2011, 08:53:45 pm »
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Denying Detroit it's glory.
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« Reply #137 on: December 11, 2011, 11:42:09 pm »
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"Go West" eh?

Why do I get the feeling that O'Connor might be meeting a distant relative of his?
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« Reply #138 on: December 22, 2011, 09:56:47 pm »

Worse for Wear: 1980

Thad and Hank arrived just as the sun began to set on California, as if their plane were in pursuit of it. Thad was visibly shaken from the turbulence, but with a little encouragement from his close friend they entered the hotel building. Upon walking through the doors, he would notice a man clothed in a heavy robe and turban, both bedecked with various jewels. It was none other than Areus Hok’ee, whom had apparently been lying in wait for them.

“Good to see you, gentlemen!” he exclaimed with effervescence. Hank reciprocated the enthusiasm, while Thad offered a wave and a modest smile in return. “Hank, why don’t you meet up with some of the Connally delegates? I’d like to introduce Thad to some of my associates,” he would suggest, whilst wrapping his arm over Thad’s shoulder and guiding him assertively. Thad had neglected to wear his boots and with his diminished physical stature, he felt compelled to accompany Areus.

Two floors up the elevator and ten minutes searching for a particular room proved to be rather uneventful, with Thad and Areus preoccupied with casual conversation. Areus would scan the numbers inscribed on each door, before finding the one in question. Thad entered first at the suggestion of his friend and to his mild surprise, found several interesting characters leisurely playing cards. “He’s here,” Thad would hear from behind him, as the door closed. One of the more affable men promptly greeted him.

“Hola!” he would say with jubilance, proffering his hand. His name was James Ferguson Garner of Texas, though he introduced himself as “Fergie”, given the abundance of James. He was a tall imposing figure, wearing a cowboy hat and a mustache over his lip. Though being a mere district judge, he was considered to have great potential in Texas Republican circles. “Areus has told us much about you, and I was watching that campaign of yours closely. You swam against the tide and nearly took him out.” Thad would raise his hand as if to deflect his new friend’s praise.

The other two figures made their way to introduce themselves. The first was a snide, lanky man in a white dress shirt and a slouchy posture, though his preeminence was far greater than his languid appearance would reveal. He was Senator Lawrence I. Coventry of Vermont, the Minority Whip of the senate Republicans, a position with increasingly diminished clout, though it was still prestigious from the perspective of a drifter. With his hands in his pockets, he looked down at Thad, before muttering, “So you’re the bumpkin from Maine? It is a shame you were unable to remove that trifling bore from the Senate.” Thad felt belittled at the man’s condescension, but merely nodded.

The second was a much shorter man, his height on par with Thad’s, though with much broader shoulders. He offered a rather somber handshake, though was more welcoming than Lawrence. He was Ericson Liberto Snell, a Representative from New York and also a Minority Whip. “Don’t mind Lawrence, he is always an asshole to new comers,” Lawrence would say, though his encouragement was veiled by his morose disposition.

The five would converse for several hours, and Thad began to develop indispensable ties, or “friends in high phrases” as it was colloquially known. As the night drew on, Thad bade them farewell, before going to his hotel room for the night. The convention would not start for another day.
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« Reply #139 on: January 18, 2012, 07:16:15 pm »

The Morning After…: 1980
 
Thad O’Connor awoke with a mild hangover the next morning. Hank Stevenson (his roommate) had been conspicuously absent for most of his time, which continued thus far. Taking the time to cast a cursory glance toward the clock, it was only seven in the morning. The TV had been left on the channel CBS; they were covering what were known as the “Tehran Massacre Hearings.” The Tehran Massacre Hearings started in late June, in response to the repeated stonewalling and ambiguity of the Ford administration on multiple deaths in the hijacked embassy.

The Tehran Massacre Hearings were chaired by a special committee, comprised mostly of Democrats but with a significant amount of Republicans – more than representative of their actual numbers in Congress. After repeated reports and testimonies that were conflicting and proven false, the implication was by several Democrats on the panel that there had been a cover up.

CBS was playing footage from the prior week at the time Thad had turned it on, right before the Republican National Convention. The panel had gone so far as to subpoena Vice President Baker, whom Senator Scott Westman was grilling. “I had heard rumors of special operations concerning the uh, embassy, but was not made privy on any details. I’m afraid that’s as far as I’ll go.” A visibly shaken Baker murmured.

The appropriately fire-haired Westman chuckled for a moment. “So, you were acting-President and mean to tell me you still haven’t been given the details on this? Bullsh**t.” The Senator’s lips furrowed and he took a deep breath, before exploding, “What did the President know, and when did he know it, Mr. Baker?! I’m sure that’s a line you’re familiar with!” he roared, impacting the counter with his balled fist, echoing throughout the chamber much like his bellows. With the same intensity, Peter Rodino, chairman of the panel, furiously pounded the gavel to restore order before throwing Westman a dirty look.

Thad turned off the television in disgust.


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« Reply #140 on: January 18, 2012, 07:20:56 pm »
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I like this "controversy right before the nomination".
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« Reply #141 on: January 18, 2012, 07:34:10 pm »

I like this "controversy right before the nomination".

Thanks. Smiley

I'm hoping to make it a little juicier as long as my loyal readers (who tend to give to me much more than take) don't mind. I'm hoping to incorporate Mattingly relatively soon, though perhaps not until the mid 80's (unless he was active in politics beforehand.)
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He had a very hobby-ish interest & nothing more. A slight interest & with more knowledge than your average idiot, but no big political operator or super-knowing wonk. I'm still intrigued at the possibility of Mattingly as a Dem, assuming you take that possible path. No matter what party he's in, I'd like to see his interaction with it's ideology.
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The Morning After…: 1980
 
Thad O’Connor awoke with a mild hangover the next morning. Hank Stevenson (his roommate) had been conspicuously absent for most of his time, which continued thus far. Taking the time to cast a cursory glance toward the clock, it was only seven in the morning. The TV had been left on the channel CBS; they were covering what were known as the “Tehran Massacre Hearings.” The Tehran Massacre Hearings started in late June, in response to the repeated stonewalling and ambiguity of the Ford administration on multiple deaths in the hijacked embassy.

The Tehran Massacre Hearings were chaired by a special committee, comprised mostly of Democrats but with a significant amount of Republicans – more than representative of their actual numbers in Congress. After repeated reports and testimonies that were conflicting and proven false, the implication was by several Democrats on the panel that there had been a cover up.

CBS was playing footage from the prior week at the time Thad had turned it on, right before the Republican National Convention. The panel had gone so far as to subpoena Vice President Baker, whom Senator Scott Westman was grilling. “I had heard rumors of special operations concerning the uh, embassy, but was not made privy on any details. I’m afraid that’s as far as I’ll go.” A visibly shaken Baker murmured.

The appropriately fire-haired Westman chuckled for a moment. “So, you were acting-President and mean to tell me you still haven’t been given the details on this? Bullsh**t.” The Senator’s lips furrowed and he took a deep breath, before exploding, “What did the President know, and when did he know it, Mr. Baker?! I’m sure that’s a line you’re familiar with!” he roared, impacting the counter with his balled fist, echoing throughout the chamber much like his bellows. With the same intensity, Peter Rodino, chairman of the panel, furiously pounded the gavel to restore order before throwing Westman a dirty look.

Thad turned off the television in disgust.


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Are you f***ing kidding me?

This is f***ing gold my friend.  You nailed Westman's behavior down to a T.
I admit I am very interested in how Westman is reacting to this political environment, being a libertarian Democrat who has an ingrained hatred of moderate Republicans and northeastern WASPs but at the same time is disgusted with the Scoop Jackson takeover of his party.
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« Reply #144 on: January 24, 2012, 08:56:14 pm »

A Meeting of the Minds: 1980

Upon shutting the TV off in disgust, Thad thought he would spend his day trying to encounter his dear friend Hank, as well as ingratiate himself with the scene in Los Angeles and members of the Republican Party abroad. He figured there would be no better way to facilitate this than to wet his whistle, so he headed off to the hotel bar.

Upon approaching the bar Thad noticed a broad-shouldered man sitting to the right with a thick, tangled mane of orange hair cascading far past his shoulders. He was speaking to a rather ordinary looking other man whom said something along the lines of "far preferring D.C. to the cotton fields of Dixie," but paid neither of them any mind. Thad caught the attention of the barkeep, asking "Could I trouble you for a Jack and Moxie?"

A look of confusion washed over the bartender's face, but he was preempted by the man to Thad's right. "Jack and Moxie? The f*** kind of drink is that?" Thad turned to look to the red-haired man, who brashly continued "I've got just the thing for you: a real man's drink!" he jeered, pushing a glass of Guinness toward Thad. "That ought to give you plenty of moxie!" He bellowed in laughter at his own joke.

The man's laughter stopped as abruptly as it came as he came to a realization. "Oi! You're the mick from Maine! You damn near won that election. Allow me to introduce myself: the name's Scott, and we'd have been serving together." Thad's brow furrowed with disapproval. "Ah, you're the one who thinks that our Vice President is covering up the deaths of Americans," he responded.

"Well, far be it from me to bum you out right before the convention, if a sitting Vice President playing dumb while Ford washes his hands of dozens of hostages doesn't bother you. Shame really, you seem like a good kid. I just hope got more in exchange for your integrity than being part of a delegation." Westman said rather tauntingly.

"Says the man who shook hands on national television with the man he was vehemently opposed to just a month before," Thad responded, though he knew Westman was getting the better of him. Westman merely grinned. "Y'know, you may be on to something my friend, but faced with four more years of the failure that is the Republican Party I'll take my chances." Thad frowned but decided to sue for a peace, so to speak.

"Well, my beverage of choice isn't here and my friend isn't here, so I must be going. Take care," he would say before abruptly departing. "See ya around pal," he could hear in the distance, and in the next few years he indeed would.
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Scott Westman!  WOOT! WOOT! WOOT!

Good portrayal.  I'll forgive the absence of the infamously bad "Westman accent" considering how much of a headache I get while writing it in.
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« Reply #146 on: January 25, 2012, 09:58:56 pm »

A Golden Ticket, and a Lost Soul: 1980

The rest of Thad’s day did not merit being written home about. He encountered Ferguson Garner and Areus, who both summoned Thad over to a cluster of like-minded Republicans and the three partook in great conversation. Little else happened however and Thad ventured to his hotel room, only to find an unusual character standing outside of his hotel door.

The man was taller than O’Connor, standing just shy of six feet, and his corpulence protruded forth creating a gulf between himself and Thad of at least a foot and a half on its own. He wore a large, gray, pinstriped suit that more than matched the ring of hair that encircled his balding head, and the smoke that emanated from a thick cigar held between his teeth. In between drags, he took the time to remove it from his mouth and introduce himself.

“You the boy from Maine? Name’s Davis Griffin. Y’boy Hank told me about you.” Davis spoke with what Thad could best describe as both a gruff crackle. Thad said nothing in reply, merely waiting for the man to step aside. “Now, I’m not going to mince words with you, boy. You’re a delegate free to vote how you want, and you obviously want a political future. I’m a delegate free to vote how I want, and I want the convention to nominate the best possible nominee.”

Thad merely tapped his foot, waiting for Davis to get to the point that he really didn’t want to hear. “Now, Governor Connally’s been an associate of mine for many years. He’s a national hero, not tarnished by the sort of scandals that have mired the incumbent administration. He’ll damn well save this party from itself, but he can only do it with your help. I want you to do what’s right by America, and vote for Connally at the convention.”

Thad spoke to Davis for the first time, merely quipping, “I’ll do what’s right by the voters of Maine and vote how I was elected to vote. Sound fair, Davis?” Davis let out a hoarse laugh that sounded similar to two gears grinding. “You’re good, kid. I’ll drop the horsesh*t. You vote for Connally, I’ll give you ten grand upfront and the best political staffers that Texan oil money can buy for any future bid of yours.” He said this while presenting a thick stack of cash, neatly wadded up.

“I believe we have nothing further to discuss,” Thad said shortly. He gently pushed the man aside and briskly walked into his hotel room, shutting the door behind him.
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« Reply #147 on: February 18, 2012, 12:20:44 pm »

1980 Republican National Convention
Los Angeles, California
August 11th – August 14th

Day One – Notable Speakers
Keynote Speaker: Minority Whip Lawrence I. Coventry (R-VT)
Senator Clifford Case (R-NJ)
Senator Charles Mathias (R-MD)
Fmr. Governor Walter Hickel (R-AK)

Day Two – Notable Speakers
Representative George Hansen (R-ID)
Representative Phil Crane (R-IL)
Representative Guy Jagt (R-MI)
Senator John Heinz (R-PA)

Day Three – Notable Speakers
Governor Al Quie (R-MN)
Representative Millicent Fenwick (R-NJ)
Senator Mark Hatfield (R-OR)
Nominee Howard Baker (R-TN)

An unusually dark sky hung over the 1980 Republican National Convention in Los Angeles, California, as if it were reflective of the disheartenment of those that were congregating. Vice President Howard Baker had been hoisted from Tennessee to the White House, and all but the heir apparent for the Republican nomination. However, former Governor John Connally, acted as an iconoclast to the “second in line” mentality and nearly toppled the initial favorite, though June would prove to be his Appomattox.

The convention chose Minority Whip Lawrence Coventry as the keynote speaker. Republicans chose the young Vermonter not only because of his acerbic wit on the floor of the Senate, but also in hopes that his youth would uphold a theme of “a new beginning.” Senator Coventry’s speech was eloquent and he passed up no chance to levy blistering attacks on the Democratic nominee, while also making subtle pitches to disheartened liberals.

The second day of the convention was a wholesale concession to the conservative wing of the party. The absence of Governor Ronald Reagan, a figurative flagship of the right-wing fleet, was quite conspicuous and left like-minded fellows at home dejected, despite the insincere enthusiasm mustered by Representative Jagt, a vaunted speech-wright. Similarly, Representative Hansen gave a fiery speech lambasting the policies of the Democratic Congress, though it was more of an assault than a rally.

On the third day, Vice President Baker was set to speak, preceded by the young moderate wing of the party, of which he could claim a kinship with. Their speeches were lackluster, though this was to Baker’s benefactor, as to not raise the expectations for the nominee. When he arose to the podium he was greeted with tepid applause.

“Ladies and gentlemen, I am so honored to be here in Los Angeles to accept this party’s nomination for President of the United States. Tonight I address not only those of you in the stands, holding placards for your respective states, but also the everyday American worried about the future. Our nation has been saddled with great difficulties, a nation mired in arduous straits. However, since I was a boy growing up in the thirties, I have known us to be a nation that does not balk in the face of adversity.

President Ford is a great man, but we will be discussing him little tonight. No matter how conducive the Democrats may find it to their agenda, this convention and this campaign is not about the incumbents; it’s about you saving your future. I have been known to have great respect for my fellow man, regardless of his party affiliation, but I speak from my heart when I say that the attacks laid on this party and on my person are dishonest, and do not auger well for the future of our political discourse, nor our democracy.

I understand many of you are doubtful or even pessimistic about our future. But I remain hopeful as ever. With hope and perseverance, our economy will recover. We will restore our dollar, and we will restore the America where any citizen can get gas, any day of the week, for less than a dollar! Lastly, we will rescue those hostages!

I have spent enough time talking, however. Actions have always spoken louder than words, so I will let my selection of a vice-president speak for me. This person is a bold new pick, emblematic of my vision for the future: a young Republican not afraid to challenge the status quo, not even their own party. I’d like to introduce America’s next Vice President: Margaret Heckler!”

The young female walked to the podium, greeted by boos and heckling every bit as intense as her applause, though not as numerous, and waited for the rancorous crowd to mellow.

“Greetings Los Angeles! It is with great pride that our party makes history today. The Democrats have talked a lot about “breaking the glass ceiling” but talk is cheap! Tonight it is we that are making a step forward in the battle for women’s’ rights.

I would not like you to think of me as having been picked merely because of my gender, however. Despite my youth I have over a decade in Congress to boast to my name, and adequate experience to succeed the office of the Presidency, god forbidding something ever happen to our next President.

To the conservatives in the audience, assuredly the ones that booed me, I ask that you consider my plea; in many ways I am a woman after your heart. In 1966, I took on the Republican establishment, successfully challenging a former Speaker of the House in a primary! Even in Massachusetts I was able to beat an incumbent, campaigning from his right, and win the general election resoundingly.

We have a similar dilemma in this election. The choice is between a washed up insider who has been in Washington for decades, or two young yet seasoned and experienced politicians ready to challenge the status quo. Good night Los Angeles, we leave the decision to you! Remember: It is always darkest just before dawn!”
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