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« Reply #50 on: June 16, 2011, 11:25:36 am »
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Marksland (979,331)
Lindsay (600,348)
Pifarris (314,677)
Peterford (89,471)
Fiskby (23,317)

Bronseland (664,753): One of the first regions of Antilla to be settled, first by Norse Vikings who were primarily escaping the strong-man rule of Harald; Due to its more favorable climate and location than Iceland, within the North Sea, Bronseland grew rapidly. The Danish Vikings in what would become Marksland, traded and worked collectively with the Norse rather than war to the benefit of both settlements. Bronseland along with Fiskby and Marksland, were the first regions to unify under the flag of Antilla after seeking greater independence from the Denmark-Norway in 1699. English crown was extended over the entire island after concessions were given to the Antillans in the form of an Island Assembly of Nobles from all regions, and the protection of the Nordansk language (which is still spoken by about 15% of the population. After the 1800 Acts of Union which created the UK, Antilla declined to unite and in 1802 the Union of Antilla was born. Bronseland has long been a region of strength for the left, recently the Cooperative Party has rivaled the SDP for superiority, both receiving over 30% last election; pockets of strength for the Liberals remain in the suburbs of major cities, and the far west wealthier valley border areas with Fiskby and Marksland.

Kristiana (312,864) – Grew into the Cultural and Educational centre of Antilla, home to Cultural institutes: the National Theatre Company of Antilla, Hage Museum of History and the Nissen MacAdams National Art Gallery. Three University’s: Settlers University, Kings University, University of Bronseland. Kristiana is home to the largest Dutch, Slavic, Jewish and immigrants from Indochina. A longheld stronghold of the left, the city has been governed almost continuously by the Social Democrats from the 1900’s till 2002, with only one break from 1929-1937 where the Workers Party/Agrarian Party governed under the first Marxist government. In 2002 the Greens won then were reelected under the rebranding as the Cooperative party 3yrs ago.
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« Reply #51 on: June 16, 2011, 11:30:18 am »
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(FYI, I'm leaning towards...in the absence of other ideas...calling my character King Ralph...and stylizing him like Goodman...any better ideas?)

Carry on.  Will this thing have sort of simulated elections or could each joining member alter the government majority, or lack thereof?
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« Reply #52 on: June 16, 2011, 11:41:51 am »
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How would that name be pronounced though?

As for background, I think we might be about to run into the problem of differing versions of our artificial reality crashing into each other.
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« Reply #53 on: June 16, 2011, 12:09:07 pm »
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How would that name be pronounced though?

As for background, I think we might be about to run into the problem of differing versions of our artificial reality crashing into each other.

We could go plain old ral-ff.

We could spice it up and go rol-ff or the confusing ray-ff.
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« Reply #54 on: June 16, 2011, 12:13:27 pm »
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with the history/bio i put up there for Bronseland... i tried to make sure i was inline to some degree with the Pitfarris bio...

unless one person creates a generic national/regional bio?
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« Reply #55 on: June 16, 2011, 12:20:43 pm »
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I was mostly thinking in terms of the population figures.
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« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2011, 12:24:02 pm »
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Oh, how so? I'm not married to them, and I'm one for continuity Smiley
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« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2011, 12:27:04 pm »
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Can I be on the record as being in favour of simulated elections? Playing with 4 or 5 parties that are the same size would just make this Euro-Atlasia.
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« Reply #58 on: June 16, 2011, 12:36:23 pm »
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Can I be on the record as being in favour of simulated elections? Playing with 4 or 5 parties that are the same size would just make this Euro-Atlasia.

How would we simulate? I favor a simulation just not sure how we'd do that. Perhaps a royal commission (ahem me...the king) could form to at least come up with an idea or two if not simulate the thing. "your" king plays no favorites with election winners.
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« Reply #59 on: June 16, 2011, 12:43:12 pm »
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Presumably with a GM and some dice?
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« Reply #60 on: June 16, 2011, 12:49:34 pm »
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Presumably with a GM and some dice?

Well surely you'd want the numbers sort of reflecting actual membership and the political preferences of the constituency area. Or something like that.
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« Reply #61 on: June 16, 2011, 12:51:24 pm »
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Presumably with a GM and some dice?

Some degree of consistency in results would be nice.
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« Reply #62 on: June 16, 2011, 12:56:44 pm »
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Oh, sure. Absolutely. You would have other stuff as well, to make sure that there was consistency and all that.
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« Reply #63 on: June 16, 2011, 01:27:48 pm »
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Some random numbers for our parliament... let's say a parliament of 150 seats. This isn't a big country, after all. As for parties... I think we have to have an unclear election result, right? At least to start with. So...

Social Democrats - 54
Popular Movement Party* - 31
Liberal Party** - 23
Pitfarris Nationalist Party - 22
Cooperative Party - 14
Independents - 4
National Patriot Party - 2

Which gives us a parliament without a natural majority and with significant representation for a very wide range of interests.

*I'm assuming that this is Conservative or Christian Democratic in some way.
**I'm assuming that these guys will be fairly right-wing as well.

Is everyone OK with Al's proposal?
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« Reply #64 on: June 16, 2011, 01:29:19 pm »
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Some random numbers for our parliament... let's say a parliament of 150 seats. This isn't a big country, after all. As for parties... I think we have to have an unclear election result, right? At least to start with. So...

Social Democrats - 54
Popular Movement Party* - 31
Liberal Party** - 23
Pitfarris Nationalist Party - 22
Cooperative Party - 14
Independents - 4
National Patriot Party - 2

Which gives us a parliament without a natural majority and with significant representation for a very wide range of interests.

*I'm assuming that this is Conservative or Christian Democratic in some way.
**I'm assuming that these guys will be fairly right-wing as well.

Is everyone OK with Al's proposal?

I am.
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« Reply #65 on: June 16, 2011, 01:31:24 pm »
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Some random numbers for our parliament... let's say a parliament of 150 seats. This isn't a big country, after all. As for parties... I think we have to have an unclear election result, right? At least to start with. So...

Social Democrats - 54
Popular Movement Party* - 31
Liberal Party** - 23
Pitfarris Nationalist Party - 22
Cooperative Party - 14
Independents - 4
National Patriot Party - 2

Which gives us a parliament without a natural majority and with significant representation for a very wide range of interests.

*I'm assuming that this is Conservative or Christian Democratic in some way.
**I'm assuming that these guys will be fairly right-wing as well.

Is everyone OK with Al's proposal?

I am.
As am I.
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« Reply #66 on: June 16, 2011, 01:33:13 pm »
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BTW, I'm under the opinion that we should make the King (a la Bullmoose) the GM.  As all monarchs should be, he won't give any kind of partisan leanings.
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« Reply #67 on: June 16, 2011, 01:34:43 pm »
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BTW, I'm under the opinion that we should make the King (a la Bullmoose) the GM.  As all monarchs should be, he won't give any kind of partisan leanings.
I second Barnes' proposal.
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« Reply #68 on: June 16, 2011, 01:38:51 pm »
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BTW, I'm under the opinion that we should make the King (a la Bullmoose) the GM.  As all monarchs should be, he won't give any kind of partisan leanings.
I second Barnes' proposal.

I third it.
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« Reply #69 on: June 16, 2011, 01:46:09 pm »
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As GM, I will do my utmost to remain impartial, as the King, I will follow the constitution and convention; however, the character of the King might appear less than impartial on certain issues (I won't act upon those)...but the king is the king, for better or (mostly) worse.

If you catch my drift.
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« Reply #70 on: June 16, 2011, 03:40:15 pm »
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Marksland (979,331)
Lindsay (600,348)
Pifarris (314,677)
Peterford (89,471)
Fiskby (23,317)

Bronseland (664,753): One of the first regions of Antilla to be settled, first by Norse Vikings who were primarily escaping the strong-man rule of Harald; Due to its more favorable climate and location than Iceland, within the North Sea, Bronseland grew rapidly. The Danish Vikings in what would become Marksland, traded and worked collectively with the Norse rather than war to the benefit of both settlements. Bronseland along with Fiskby and Marksland, were the first regions to unify under the flag of Antilla after seeking greater independence from the Denmark-Norway in 1699. English crown was extended over the entire island after concessions were given to the Antillans in the form of an Island Assembly of Nobles from all regions, and the protection of the Nordansk language (which is still spoken by about 15% of the population. After the 1800 Acts of Union which created the UK, Antilla declined to unite and in 1802 the Union of Antilla was born. Bronseland has long been a region of strength for the left, recently the Cooperative Party has rivaled the SDP for superiority, both receiving over 30% last election; pockets of strength for the Liberals remain in the suburbs of major cities, and the far west wealthier valley border areas with Fiskby and Marksland.

Kristiana (312,864) – Grew into the Cultural and Educational centre of Antilla, home to Cultural institutes: the National Theatre Company of Antilla, Hage Museum of History and the Nissen MacAdams National Art Gallery. Three University’s: Settlers University, Kings University, University of Bronseland. Kristiana is home to the largest Dutch, Slavic, Jewish and immigrants from Indochina. A longheld stronghold of the left, the city has been governed almost continuously by the Social Democrats from the 1900’s till 2002, with only one break from 1929-1937 where the Workers Party/Agrarian Party governed under the first Marxist government. In 2002 the Greens won then were reelected under the rebranding as the Cooperative party 3yrs ago.


I think that there should be more parity between the provinces, population-wise. Fiskby in particular is underpopulated, although with 150 members, it is still populous enough that it deserves one seat. However, I think it should have a higher population, simply from a game mechanics perspective, in case more people join the game and want to be from Fiskby.

With a total population of roughly 2.7 million, the cube root rule would have the size of the Parliament at about 140 seats. I think 150 is a good number.

Using the current population figures for each province and a  150-seat Parliament would give the following apportionments, depending on the method used.

D'Hondt or Jefferson: Marksland 55, Bronseland 38, Lindsay 34, Pitfarris 17, Peterford 5, Fiskby 1
Hamilton, Webster, or Huntington-Hill: Marksland 55, Bronseland 37, Lindsay 34, Pitfarris 18, Peterford 5, Fiskby 1
Adams: Marksland 54, Bronsland 37, Lindsay 34, Pitfarris 18, Peterford 5, Fiskby 2
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« Reply #71 on: June 16, 2011, 05:28:40 pm »
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Some random numbers for our parliament... let's say a parliament of 150 seats. This isn't a big country, after all. As for parties... I think we have to have an unclear election result, right? At least to start with. So...

Social Democrats - 54
Popular Movement Party* - 31
Liberal Party** - 23
Pitfarris Nationalist Party - 22
Cooperative Party - 14
Independents - 4
National Patriot Party - 2

Which gives us a parliament without a natural majority and with significant representation for a very wide range of interests.

*I'm assuming that this is Conservative or Christian Democratic in some way.
**I'm assuming that these guys will be fairly right-wing as well.

Is everyone OK with Al's proposal?

I am.
As am I.
I like it!
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« Reply #72 on: June 16, 2011, 05:44:48 pm »
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Marksland (979,331)
Lindsay (600,348)
Pifarris (314,677)
Peterford (89,471)
Fiskby (23,317)

Bronseland (664,753): One of the first regions of Antilla to be settled, first by Norse Vikings who were primarily escaping the strong-man rule of Harald; Due to its more favorable climate and location than Iceland, within the North Sea, Bronseland grew rapidly. The Danish Vikings in what would become Marksland, traded and worked collectively with the Norse rather than war to the benefit of both settlements. Bronseland along with Fiskby and Marksland, were the first regions to unify under the flag of Antilla after seeking greater independence from the Denmark-Norway in 1699. English crown was extended over the entire island after concessions were given to the Antillans in the form of an Island Assembly of Nobles from all regions, and the protection of the Nordansk language (which is still spoken by about 15% of the population. After the 1800 Acts of Union which created the UK, Antilla declined to unite and in 1802 the Union of Antilla was born. Bronseland has long been a region of strength for the left, recently the Cooperative Party has rivaled the SDP for superiority, both receiving over 30% last election; pockets of strength for the Liberals remain in the suburbs of major cities, and the far west wealthier valley border areas with Fiskby and Marksland.

Kristiana (312,864) – Grew into the Cultural and Educational centre of Antilla, home to Cultural institutes: the National Theatre Company of Antilla, Hage Museum of History and the Nissen MacAdams National Art Gallery. Three University’s: Settlers University, Kings University, University of Bronseland. Kristiana is home to the largest Dutch, Slavic, Jewish and immigrants from Indochina. A longheld stronghold of the left, the city has been governed almost continuously by the Social Democrats from the 1900’s till 2002, with only one break from 1929-1937 where the Workers Party/Agrarian Party governed under the first Marxist government. In 2002 the Greens won then were reelected under the rebranding as the Cooperative party 3yrs ago.


I think that there should be more parity between the provinces, population-wise. Fiskby in particular is underpopulated, although with 150 members, it is still populous enough that it deserves one seat. However, I think it should have a higher population, simply from a game mechanics perspective, in case more people join the game and want to be from Fiskby.

With a total population of roughly 2.7 million, the cube root rule would have the size of the Parliament at about 140 seats. I think 150 is a good number.

Using the current population figures for each province and a  150-seat Parliament would give the following apportionments, depending on the method used.

D'Hondt or Jefferson: Marksland 55, Bronseland 38, Lindsay 34, Pitfarris 17, Peterford 5, Fiskby 1
Hamilton, Webster, or Huntington-Hill: Marksland 55, Bronseland 37, Lindsay 34, Pitfarris 18, Peterford 5, Fiskby 1
Adams: Marksland 54, Bronsland 37, Lindsay 34, Pitfarris 18, Peterford 5, Fiskby 2

we could re-allocate some of the population... i'd still like some smaller more rural regions like Fiskby but i see your point, if we move about 200000 to peterford and fiskby that should work... plus the Nationalists can only ever get win as many as 18 seats and we already agreed that they would be at 22. For me 18 makes more sense since its a much smaller island
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« Reply #73 on: June 16, 2011, 08:22:47 pm »
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I'm just wondering. Is it too late to join up?
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« Reply #74 on: June 16, 2011, 10:22:14 pm »
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There's really no reason for the regions to be uniform, particularly if we regard them as being ancient divisions.
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