Revival Proposal

[Swedish Cheese]

Started making a map of Lindsay. Hope that's alright.

[Sibboleth]

What sort of names would you be using?

[Swedish Cheese]

What sort of names would you be using?

More English sounding ones, as Lindsay is the region least influenced by Scandinavia. So far I have:

Stagfordshire, New Cumbria, Barleyshire for Counties/Hundreds
Stagford, Slatcliff, Eldon, Ralphsburg for settlements

[bullmoose88]

What sort of names would you be using?

More English sounding ones, as Lindsay is the region least influenced by Scandinavia. So far I have:

Stagfordshire, New Cumbria, Barleyshire for Counties/Hundreds
Stagford, Slatcliff, Eldon, Ralphsburg for settlements

I am Ralph the First (unfortunate).  Dunno how new a settlement Ralphsburg would be.

[Sibboleth]

Stagfordshire,

Like it.

New Cumbria

Cumbria was only created in 1974. New Cumberland, maybe?

Barleyshire

Not so bad.

for Counties/Haralds

Our regions are county equivalents so you want something lower; the traditional subdivision in most of England were called Hundreds (Wards in the far north of England, Wapentakes in much of the Danelaw. In some places there were also Liberties. In Sussex they had... er... Rapes). I actually like the idea of having one of them not given a shire-like name; fits in with the idea of their being multiple Plantations.

Although if you're only having three, you could call them Ridings.

Stagford,

Like.

Slatcliff,

Would work better with an 'e' on the end: Slatcliffe.

Eldon,

Like.

Ralphsburg for settlements

English for burg is bury, so that would be Ralphsbury. If the ralph is based off the name, you could also call it Rafesbury.

[Swedish Cheese]

Ah very good, thanks Al

Alright, I've made a map of Lindsay with 7 Hundreds besides Lindsay-on-Sea, with one settlement for each. Not sure about all the names yet though. Critisism and suggestions are welcome.


1 Stagfordshire (120 563) - Stagford (41 568)
2 Summerton (102 506) - Aurora (24 340)
3 Barleyshire (89 385) - Rafesbury (33 612)
4 Casterly (52 366) - Eldon (16 202)
5 New Cumberland (50 132) - Not sure, but something with Hill in it (15 607)
6 Not sure (25 214) - Saltcliffe (9 361)
7 Vale of Arn (18 912) - Arnhall (10 512)

Lindsay-on-Sea (141 270)

I'll post the map once I've got all the names on it.

[Sibboleth]

Dinhill?

[Swedish Cheese]

Dinhill?

That would work.

What do you think of the other names?

[Sibboleth]

Dinhill?

That would work.

What do you think of the other names?

They seem fine. You'd have to work out a backstory for 'Aurora' I think, but that wouldn't be hard.

For the last Hundred name, one old English (though not Old English) word for salt springs is Wich (or Wych). You could work something around that, maybe?

[Swedish Cheese]

You'd have to work out a backstory for 'Aurora' I think, but that wouldn't be hard.

I was thinking it might have been a former Queen, or other noble woman who was important for the area.

[Sibboleth]

Alright, alright. Some of that is seriously cheap.

[Insula Dei]

Where in St.Marks would the national institutions and Parliament or the University be located?

[Χahar]

Parliament is in Castle; it says so on the map.

[Insula Dei]

Parliament is in Castle; it says so on the map.

Didn't read the funny letters, sorry.

[Hashemite]

Any region or something I could do?

[lilTommy]

Alright, alright. Some of that is seriously cheap.

Fantastic Map! where would the main port be? are you working on a detailed description of the neighbouhoods/districts you listed for St. Marks?
OH and How is St. Marks governed? it said it was typically split between the different warpentahas (sp?)... does that mean the city is divided in how its goverend? which would be a very unique system indeed, could make for good battles and very distictive districts within one city. Or governed as a city united? 

[Sibboleth]

The port would originally have been in Castle borough, but is now in Darside and Northcoates (it would have had to expand as the size of ships increased in the late twentieth century, though it might have done so earlier).

St Marks is governed by a two-tier system. Most local government functions are controlled by the City Council, but there are also be individual Borough Councils that control things like waste disposal and rates (property taxes).

The Wapentakes have no local government function anywhere; they're just historical regions that locals have a degree of attachment to.

[Sibboleth]

Any region or something I could do?

Loads to do still. What sort of thing would you like to do?

[Swedish Cheese]

Short introductions to Lindsay's hundreds:

Stagfordshire – (120 563)

Stagfordshire is located around the river Greenstream. The fertile and rich soil around the river is ideal for agriculture and for centuries English settlers have used the area for farming. Next to farming, the military and the military industry is the most important part of the hundred’s economy, and several military bases are located all over the area. Stagfordshire is also famed for its horse breeding, and horse related sports are very popular among the inhabitants, even if polo especially holds a special place in the heart of many of the residents. Fox-hunting is also popular, and the question over its legality is an important political issue. Inheritance- and property-tax are other important issues as Stagfordshire has a lot of grand old houses and estates and family farms. The population is concentrated to the suburbs and exurbs of Lindsay-on-Sea, as well as the area around the Greenstream.

The largest and oldest city is Stagford. Historically it’s been an important military city. The weapon industry is the most prominent one of the city, and the city’s military base employ a lot of people. The city unfortunately was heavily bombed by the Germans during WW2, but most of the city’s old historical buildings have been restored. Stagford is beautifully situated right at the shore of the Greenstream.       
     
Summerton – (102 506)

Summerton is the second most populous hundred in the region, and the fastest growing one. The beaches and coastal areas of Southern Summerton are considered very beautiful, and have proved to be a popular place to go on vacation, and for rich Antillians to buy summer and retirement houses. This has caused the once small coastal towns to grow at a huge speed and caused property taxes to sky-rocketed. Tourism is understandably the main industry. The Northern parts of the hundred are much more rural, and similar to the rest of the region, being dominated by agriculture. Strawberries are the most popular crop, but a lot of the island’s vegetable production comes from here.   
 
Aurora is the largest settlement. The old seaside resort is home of 24 340 people and like most of Southern Summerton it is quickly growing. It was named after Aurora Montgomery-Blackwood, the beloved wife of the city’s founder, Charles Montgomery-Blackwood, the 6th Baron of Lindsay.     
 
Barleyshire – (89 385)

Barleyshire is often called the little brother of Stagfordshire, and the two hundreds share a lot of similarities. Barleyshire is however much more rural than Stagfordshire, and agriculture is an even more dominating part of the economy. The shire also lacks the military history of its neighbor. Outside of its own boarders it’s mostly famous for the roses which are grown in huge numbers, especially the Lindsay Blue Rose.

The city of Rafesbury was once Lindsay’s largest city, and the capital. In the late 18th century however it was overtaken by Lindsay-on-Sea (and then later also by Stagford) something Rafesbury has never been able to accept, and until this day they still have a rivalry with Lindsay-on-Sea. The city is surprisingly industrial for Lindsay and it’s one of the left’s few strong-holds in the entire region. The city centre is dominated by a huge castle which is rumored to be haunted, and many ghost hunters visit yearly.         
 
Casterly – (52 366)

Casterly is located in the Northern part of Lindsay. It has by far the most religious and conservative population of the region, and probably the whole country. It’s a PMP and PNP strong-hold and social-conservative and Christian values are important. The economy is almost entirely based on agriculture, and as in much of the region farm-subsides is an important issue.

The major settlement is Eldon, which is the only place in the hundred where you can find some sort of industry not based on agriculture. According to the latest census it has 16 202 inhabitants.     

New Cumberland – (50 132)

New Cumberland is the hilly and forest covered northern parts of Lindsay. Although farming is an important part of the area, especially the breeding of highland cattle and sheep, the dominant industry has been forestry, and the area export lots of timber the United Kingdom and Southern Europe. The forest industry has made the area more left-wing than the rest of the region, and forest unions were once very strong. Hunting is by far the most popular hobby thanks to the rich wild-life  and gun and environmental issues are very important to the population. 

The largest settlement is Dinhill with 15 607 inhabitants. The city’s church is very old, and is located at the very top of the hill, and the tower can been seen from a very far distance. The main employer in town is a pulp and paper factory, Walton’s Paper INC. But there is also a factory which produces wheels to trains, and a screwdriver factory.         

Wychingshore – (25 214)

Wychingshore differs from most of Lindsay in that the area isn’t very good for farming due to the very salt-rich soil. Historically the main industries of Wychingshore have instead been salt and limestone mining, as well as fishing. The importance of salt and limestone has however decreased greatly in the last hundred years, and few mines still remain open. Instead tourism has become a growing percentage of the hundred’s economy. The area is thought to have some very beautiful nature, and one of the country’s largest national parks can be found in the Northern part of the hundred.

Most of the population lives in small towns along the coastline. The biggest settlement is Saltcliffe, which only has 9361 inhabitants.

Vale of Arn – (18 912)

The Vale of Arn has a bit of a bad reputation. A majority of the hundred’s inhabitants lives in Arnhall, which has little to offer in itself, and is mostly considered a big, boring commuter town to the nearly located Eldon. Arnhall also has the region’s largest unemployment.

Outside of the city, the hundred contains mostly small villages, which has a reputation for being very inbreed, isolated and intolerant.     

[Swedish Cheese]

A summury of Lindsay-on-Sea will be next up. I'm thinking sort of a mix between Norfolk, Virginia and Brighton, England.

EDIT: Contructive critisim on my the above post is very welcome, btw.

[Sibboleth]

You should have some militant agricultural labourers (even if back in the past) somewhere, because they're so much fun

[lilTommy]

The port would originally have been in Castle borough, but is now in Darside and Northcoates (it would have had to expand as the size of ships increased in the late twentieth century, though it might have done so earlier).

St Marks is governed by a two-tier system. Most local government functions are controlled by the City Council, but there are also be individual Borough Councils that control things like waste disposal and rates (property taxes).

The Wapentakes have no local government function anywhere; they're just historical regions that locals have a degree of attachment to.

Perfect!, i would have choosen Darside and Northcoates too since for some reason i always feel the east side of cities tend to be more industrial and working class.
Great, i made Kristiana similar, a city/county council and dividided into 4 Boroughs which have little power.
Warpentakes (thank you) again i think might be good national electoral districts, say minimum size of 50,000 people? So for The big 4 (Marksland, Lindsay, Bronseland and Pitfarris) you will have multiple electoral regions that would elect say 7 or 11 members each (might need to look again at those figures back a couple pages).
Thoughts?

[lilTommy]

Short introductions to Lindsay's hundreds:

Stagfordshire – (120 563)

Stagfordshire is located around the river Greenstream. The fertile and rich soil around the river is ideal for agriculture and for centuries English settlers have used the area for farming. Next to farming, the military and the military industry is the most important part of the hundred’s economy, and several military bases are located all over the area. Stagfordshire is also famed for its horse breeding, and horse related sports are very popular among the inhabitants, even if polo especially holds a special place in the heart of many of the residents. Fox-hunting is also popular, and the question over its legality is an important political issue. Inheritance- and property-tax are other important issues as Stagfordshire has a lot of grand old houses and estates and family farms. The population is concentrated to the suburbs and exurbs of Lindsay-on-Sea, as well as the area around the Greenstream.

The largest and oldest city is Stagford. Historically it’s been an important military city. The weapon industry is the most prominent one of the city, and the city’s military base employ a lot of people. The city unfortunately was heavily bombed by the Germans during WW2, but most of the city’s old historical buildings have been restored. Stagford is beautifully situated right at the shore of the Greenstream.      
      
Summerton – (102 506)

Summerton is the second most populous hundred in the region, and the fastest growing one. The beaches and coastal areas of Southern Summerton are considered very beautiful, and have proved to be a popular place to go on vacation, and for rich Antillians to buy summer and retirement houses. This has caused the once small coastal towns to grow at a huge speed and caused property taxes to sky-rocketed. Tourism is understandably the main industry. The Northern parts of the hundred are much more rural, and similar to the rest of the region, being dominated by agriculture. Strawberries are the most popular crop, but a lot of the island’s vegetable production comes from here.  
  
Aurora is the largest settlement. The old seaside resort is home of 24 340 people and like most of Southern Summerton it is quickly growing. It was named after Aurora Montgomery-Blackwood, the beloved wife of the city’s founder, Charles Montgomery-Blackwood, the 6th Baron of Lindsay.      
  
Barleyshire – (89 385)

Barleyshire is often called the little brother of Stagfordshire, and the two hundreds share a lot of similarities. Barleyshire is however much more rural than Stagfordshire, and agriculture is an even more dominating part of the economy. The shire also lacks the military history of its neighbor. Outside of its own boarders it’s mostly famous for the roses which are grown in huge numbers, especially the Lindsay Blue Rose.

The city of Rafesbury was once Lindsay’s largest city, and the capital. In the late 18th century however it was overtaken by Lindsay-on-Sea (and then later also by Stagford) something Rafesbury has never been able to accept, and until this day they still have a rivalry with Lindsay-on-Sea. The city is surprisingly industrial for Lindsay and it’s one of the left’s few strong-holds in the entire region. The city centre is dominated by a huge castle which is rumored to be haunted, and many ghost hunters visit yearly.          
 
Casterly – (52 366)

Casterly is located in the Northern part of Lindsay. It has by far the most religious and conservative population of the region, and probably the whole country. It’s a PMP and PNP strong-hold and social-conservative and Christian values are important. The economy is almost entirely based on agriculture, and as in much of the region farm-subsides is an important issue.

The major settlement is Eldon, which is the only place in the hundred where you can find some sort of industry not based on agriculture. According to the latest census it has 16 202 inhabitants.    

New Cumberland – (50 132)

New Cumberland is the hilly and forest covered northern parts of Lindsay. Although farming is an important part of the area, especially the breeding of highland cattle and sheep, the dominant industry has been forestry, and the area export lots of timber the United Kingdom and Southern Europe. The forest industry has made the area more left-wing than the rest of the region, and forest unions were once very strong. Hunting is by far the most popular hobby thanks to the rich wild-life  and gun and environmental issues are very important to the population.  

The largest settlement is Dinhill with 15 607 inhabitants. The city’s church is very old, and is located at the very top of the hill, and the tower can been seen from a very far distance. The main employer in town is a pulp and paper factory, Walton’s Paper INC. But there is also a factory which produces wheels to trains, and a screwdriver factory.          

Wychingshore – (25 214)

Wychingshore differs from most of Lindsay in that the area isn’t very good for farming due to the very salt-rich soil. Historically the main industries of Wychingshore have instead been salt and limestone mining, as well as fishing. The importance of salt and limestone has however decreased greatly in the last hundred years, and few mines still remain open. Instead tourism has become a growing percentage of the hundred’s economy. The area is thought to have some very beautiful nature, and one of the country’s largest national parks can be found in the Northern part of the hundred.

Most of the population lives in small towns along the coastline. The biggest settlement is Saltcliffe, which only has 9361 inhabitants.

Vale of Arn – (18 912)

The Vale of Arn has a bit of a bad reputation. A majority of the hundred’s inhabitants lives in Arnhall, which has little to offer in itself, and is mostly considered a big, boring commuter town to the nearly located Eldon. Arnhall also has the region’s largest unemployment.

Outside of the city, the hundred contains mostly small villages, which has a reputation for being very inbreed, isolated and intolerant.    

I think that turned out really well, Lindsay has a very english feel to it and i look forward to reading about Lindsay-the-sea. I loved the inbreed area too... every countires needs its "Southern states in the US" or "Nfld in canada"... i can see many a jokes come from that.

I do think these region bios should be in the Region Profiles page eh?

[Swedish Cheese]

I think that turned out really well, Lindsay has a very english feel to it and i look forward to reading about Lindsay-the-sea. I loved the inbreed area too... every countires needs its "Southern states in the US" or "Nfld in canada"... i can see many a jokes come from that.

I do think these region bios should be in the Region Profiles page eh?

Thank you

Yes we have those inbreed areas in Sweden as well. Rural Blekinge, as well as Västerbotten are big time offenders. There's even an villiage in Blekinge not too far from where my grandparents used to live where they have devoloped their own dialect which is completly different from all other accents in Southern Sweden, because as my grandma used to say: "No one ever moves in and no one ever moves out, they stay there and marry their cousins (and screw their sisters) and it has made them all a little bit strange.

I'll post it there right now. 

[Hashemite]

Any region or something I could do?

Loads to do still. What sort of thing would you like to do?

I wouldn't mind doing profiles, or in lack thereof, some work on electoral sociology.