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« Reply #75 on: June 02, 2011, 11:21:23 AM »

This is getting good.
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« Reply #76 on: June 02, 2011, 12:35:19 PM »

I mean, maybe he was drunk or something? Assuming the picture is legit, that's the only way I could really see him making such a strange series of decisions here.   

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WOLF BLITZER, CNN: "Have you ever taken a picture like this of yourself?"

REP. ANTHONY WEINER (D-NY): "I can tell you this, that there are -- I have photographs. I don't know what photographs are out there in the world of me.

That begs the question of why he would take a picture of his crotch.

I don't think this is incriminating in itself. Maybe he took it to send to his wife, or it's an old picture he sent to someone he was dating before the marriage?

Question here for anyone that knows yfrog. Can you even store pictures privately on there?
 
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« Reply #77 on: June 02, 2011, 12:38:35 PM »


Really?  I'm bored to tears.  Weiner's weiner doesn't interest me Wink
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« Reply #78 on: June 02, 2011, 04:17:54 PM »

I don't think this is incriminating in itself. Maybe he took it to send to his wife, or it's an old picture he sent to someone he was dating before the marriage?

Or kept for his résumé and campaign literature.  "New York deserves to be represented by a big swinging dick."
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« Reply #79 on: June 02, 2011, 05:26:46 PM »

Weiner won't call police over hacking, but will call over annoying reporter

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/06/02/weiner-says-hes-done-talking-about-twitter-photo-time-to-get-back-to-work/
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« Reply #80 on: June 02, 2011, 05:53:21 PM »


Worst damage control ever.  The New York media likes nothing more than talking about politicians slighting the New York media.
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« Reply #81 on: June 02, 2011, 06:15:54 PM »

Also it kinda undermines his "I'm not going to call the police and waste their time" argument about the hacking
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« Reply #82 on: June 02, 2011, 06:48:27 PM »

Also it kinda undermines his "I'm not going to call the police and waste their time" argument about the hacking

Yeah, that too.  Worst damage control ever.

But sending out the cops to threaten to arrest obnoxious NYC political reporters only makes those reporters to want to get the story more - and they're a tenacious breed of pitbulls to begin with.  It seems that Mayor Bloomberg doesn't much like the CBS reporter that tried to interview Weiner because she has asked tough questions that made his administration look stupid.  I remember him getting very testy with her over the botched post-Christmas snow removal operation.  And like many local New York reporters, she's not afraid to make herself part of the story.

This just might end up on the front page of the Post and Daily News again tomorrow.
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« Reply #83 on: June 02, 2011, 07:02:17 PM »

Also it kinda undermines his "I'm not going to call the police and waste their time" argument about the hacking

Yeah, that too.  Worst damage control ever.

But sending out the cops to threaten to arrest obnoxious NYC political reporters only makes those reporters to want to get the story more - and they're a tenacious breed of pitbulls to begin with.  It seems that Mayor Bloomberg doesn't much like the CBS reporter that tried to interview Weiner because she has asked tough questions that made his administration look stupid.  I remember him getting very testy with her over the botched post-Christmas snow removal operation.  And like many local New York reporters, she's not afraid to make herself part of the story.

This just might end up on the front page of the Post and Daily News again tomorrow.

Marcia Kramer is famous for badgering Bill Clinton into giving the famous "but I didn't inhale" response about his drug use.

Yeah she's not someone you wanna call the cops on. 100% agree
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« Reply #84 on: June 02, 2011, 09:42:25 PM »

Alternative Theory: Weiner was actually hacked and people cannot believe that perhaps, just this once, a politician is actually telling the truth.

If he was hacked, he would not have been able to re-claim the password and access the account. 

If he was hacked, he would be calling the police or informing twitter to re-take control of the account.

To hack the account, the hacker would change the password of the twitter account.

He would also be a lot more upset about "Outside conspirators hacking into his account" if he truly believed it. 

But he knows the truth, which is that he or someone close to him sent the photo, it was not an outside party or hacker. 
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« Reply #85 on: June 03, 2011, 06:07:02 PM »

LOL at NYC political reporters, seeking comment from sources few of us would ever even think of:

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« Reply #86 on: June 04, 2011, 12:26:27 AM »

that's insane
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« Reply #87 on: June 04, 2011, 12:40:22 AM »

It's time for him to resign like every other New York politician with any ounce of decency has in the aftermath of a sex scandal. If redistricting keeps the district heavily White and Jewish to accommodate minority groups in Brooklyn, then he seriously risks the Democrats losing this seat when they shouldn't.
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« Reply #88 on: June 04, 2011, 12:58:39 AM »

It's time for him to resign like every other New York politician with any ounce of decency has in the aftermath of a sex scandal. If redistricting keeps the district heavily White and Jewish to accommodate minority groups in Brooklyn, then he seriously risks the Democrats losing this seat when they shouldn't.

I wouldn't go that far. 2010 isn't likely to be as bad as 2010 was for Democrats.  He could have redistricting problems, but I don't think they will be because his district is maintained the same way that it is now
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« Reply #89 on: June 04, 2011, 12:58:56 AM »
« Edited: June 04, 2011, 01:00:34 AM by CitizenX »

It's time for him to resign like every other New York politician with any ounce of decency has in the aftermath of a sex scandal. If redistricting keeps the district heavily White and Jewish to accommodate minority groups in Brooklyn, then he seriously risks the Democrats losing this seat when they shouldn't.

What?!  Are we living in the age of the Scarlet Letter?  How do arrive at the conclusion that a sex scandal has taken place?  Who had sex with who?  Who was trying to have sex with who?  Do you know what sex is?
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« Reply #90 on: June 04, 2011, 01:03:54 AM »

It's time for him to resign like every other New York politician with any ounce of decency has in the aftermath of a sex scandal. If redistricting keeps the district heavily White and Jewish to accommodate minority groups in Brooklyn, then he seriously risks the Democrats losing this seat when they shouldn't.

What?!  Are we living in the age of the Scarlet Letter?  How do arrive at the conclusion that a sex scandal has taken place?  Who had sex with who?  Who was trying to have sex with who?  Do you know what sex is?

No one has proven that Chris Lee cheated on his spouse sexually, but he resigned under much less public controversy and scrutiny.
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« Reply #91 on: June 04, 2011, 11:22:46 AM »
« Edited: June 04, 2011, 11:44:07 AM by Joementum »

Dailykosers (instead of journalists; Jon Stewart is vindicated) figured out you can trigger a tweet from someone by mailing a photo to their yfrog email.  A glitch they moved to correct as soon as it was exposed.  Which is not quite hacking but is impersonating.  I think this mystery is easy actually.  Either Weiner's account where he keeps photos was hacked or he at some point sent the photo to someone.  Weiner's twitter stalkers got a hold of it somehow, emailed it to his yfrog as a tweet @ the Seattle girl in order to make it look like an accidental DM to her.  This would explain Weiner's confident denial that he never sent the tweet cum dodge about if the photo is really him.

Also it kinda undermines his "I'm not going to call the police and waste their time" argument about the hacking

It's not exactly equivalent steps: open an investigation vs. come up and here and get this person out of my office.
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« Reply #92 on: June 04, 2011, 12:51:43 PM »

It's time for him to resign like every other New York politician with any ounce of decency has in the aftermath of a sex scandal. If redistricting keeps the district heavily White and Jewish to accommodate minority groups in Brooklyn, then he seriously risks the Democrats losing this seat when they shouldn't.

What?!  Are we living in the age of the Scarlet LetterHow do arrive at the conclusion that a sex scandal has taken place?  Who had sex with who?  Who was trying to have sex with who?  Do you know what sex is?

No one has proven that Chris Lee cheated on his spouse sexually, but he resigned under much less public controversy and scrutiny.

The way Lee resigned so quickly, IMO anyway, made it seem like there was a lot more to the story that he didn't want anyone to uncover.
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« Reply #93 on: June 04, 2011, 01:13:47 PM »

It's time for him to resign like every other New York politician with any ounce of decency has in the aftermath of a sex scandal. If redistricting keeps the district heavily White and Jewish to accommodate minority groups in Brooklyn, then he seriously risks the Democrats losing this seat when they shouldn't.

What?!  Are we living in the age of the Scarlet LetterHow do arrive at the conclusion that a sex scandal has taken place?  Who had sex with who?  Who was trying to have sex with who?  Do you know what sex is?

No one has proven that Chris Lee cheated on his spouse sexually, but he resigned under much less public controversy and scrutiny.

The way Lee resigned so quickly, IMO anyway, made it seem like there was a lot more to the story that he didn't want anyone to uncover.

Right - and there was. The details about him seeking out transexuals never went national because he resigned quickly enough that the national media stopped covering it before that came to light.
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« Reply #94 on: June 04, 2011, 01:15:29 PM »
« Edited: June 04, 2011, 01:18:02 PM by Joementum »

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/internet/mike-stack-weinergate-co-pilot-219073

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/bizarre/dan-wolfe-anthony-weiner-weinergate-632095
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« Reply #95 on: June 04, 2011, 02:16:11 PM »
« Edited: June 04, 2011, 02:40:00 PM by cinyc »


So?  

Typical sleazy media behavior - the media investigating a person who only retweeted what Weiner wrote and someone with no real link to the tweet.  Just like they did with Joe the Plumber.  It makes people who know bad things about Congressmen or ask them tough questions not want to step forward for fear of having their lives ruined.

That the tweet linking to Weiner's picture was in his feed is not at all in dispute.
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« Reply #96 on: June 04, 2011, 03:57:57 PM »

That the tweet linking to Weiner's picture was in his feed is not at all in dispute.

But that he sent it out is.
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« Reply #97 on: June 04, 2011, 07:35:12 PM »

That the tweet linking to Weiner's picture was in his feed is not at all in dispute.

But that he sent it out is.

There's no proof that he didn't, and if Weiner truly thought the vast right-wing conspiracy hacked into his twitter account and sent the photo, Weiner would have had no problem asking the FBI or Capitol Police to investigate.  That he didn't and continues to not directly answer questions pretty much tells you everything any rational person needs to know.

The simplest explanation is almost always the correct one.
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« Reply #98 on: June 04, 2011, 09:41:03 PM »

That the tweet linking to Weiner's picture was in his feed is not at all in dispute.

But that he sent it out is.

There's no proof that he didn't, and if Weiner truly thought the vast right-wing conspiracy hacked into his twitter account and sent the photo, Weiner would have had no problem asking the FBI or Capitol Police to investigate.  That he didn't and continues to not directly answer questions pretty much tells you everything any rational person needs to know.

The simplest explanation is almost always the correct one.

Guilty until proven innocent, eh? Garrow is rolling over in his grave...
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« Reply #99 on: June 04, 2011, 10:25:04 PM »

That the tweet linking to Weiner's picture was in his feed is not at all in dispute.

But that he sent it out is.

There's no proof that he didn't, and if Weiner truly thought the vast right-wing conspiracy hacked into his twitter account and sent the photo, Weiner would have had no problem asking the FBI or Capitol Police to investigate.  That he didn't and continues to not directly answer questions pretty much tells you everything any rational person needs to know.

The simplest explanation is almost always the correct one.

Guilty until proven innocent, eh? Garrow is rolling over in his grave...

The presumption of innocence applies to jurors hearing cases about real crimes in a court of law, not whether one thinks a sitting Congressman committed a non-crime - say, something like send a link to a lewd photo of himself to an adult - in the court of public opinion.

Let's see... There's a link to a lewd photo of a man in his underwear in Weiner's Twitter feed, which the Congressman himself controls.   First he claims his Twitter feed was hacked, then pranked - either way, likely an actual crime - but refuses to go to the Capitol Police or FBI over the incident.   He can't say with certitude that the photograph in question isn't of him.  And Congressman Weiner is often to first to blame a vast right wing conspiracy over everything - which he isn't doing here.  What inference would most rational people draw from those facts? 
 
Weiner's actions are the most damning evidence that he sent the link to the photo, most likely as a botched attempt to send a private DM.  The simplest explanation is almost always the correct one.
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