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« Reply #25 on: June 07, 2011, 09:20:15 PM »

Romney would probably win, but I would bet money that he doesn't win the nomination.
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« Reply #26 on: June 07, 2011, 09:23:41 PM »

If unemployment continues at 9% and rising, if the economy continues to be facing a major stall, if jobs created continues to lag, then the electorate will turn to Romney's legendary economic and business expertise to get the economy back on track and Romney will defeat Obama.

What? The expertise at being born the scion of a multi-million dollar fortune and---surprise, surprise---not blowing it?
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« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2011, 10:08:18 PM »

If unemployment continues at 9% and rising, if the economy continues to be facing a major stall, if jobs created continues to lag, then the electorate will turn to Romney's legendary economic and business expertise to get the economy back on track and Romney will defeat Obama.

What? The expertise at being born the scion of a multi-million dollar fortune and---surprise, surprise---not blowing it?

Winfield is just the best Romney parodist ever.
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« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2011, 10:15:33 PM »

Unemployment is still extremely high, and no president has ever been re-elected at 9% unemployment.  I really think that Romney will win the Independent vote and the swing states of Ohio, Florida, Colorado, and NC.  He already beats Obama in polling of Independents.  He just has to win the nomination, and I'm sure the evangelicals realize he's the best shot at beating Obama. 
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« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2011, 10:39:23 PM »

I'm sure the evangelicals realize he's the best shot at beating Obama. 

Getting evangelicals to make a rational decision is a stretch.
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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2011, 11:23:04 PM »



287-251 Obama. I could see Romney being the John Kerry of 2012
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« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2011, 06:41:53 AM »

Romney wins all of Nebraska because it abolishes its congressional district split.

Indiana and North Carolina go back to Romney on what is left of the Tea Party wave.  That same bump also shores up Montana and Missouri for Romney.

Obama holds the rest.
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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2011, 09:48:06 AM »

Obama would beat Romney by single digits.
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« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2011, 01:32:01 PM »
« Edited: June 09, 2011, 01:36:50 PM by The Mikado »

Unemployment is still extremely high, and no president has ever been re-elected at 9% unemployment.

Roosevelt 1936.

EDIT: Just checked the figures, and there hasn't been an election since World War II where the Unemployment figure was 9% at the election, though there have been several where it was 8.X (1976, 1984).
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« Reply #34 on: June 09, 2011, 01:36:44 PM »



Assuming unemployment stands within a point of what it is today
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« Reply #35 on: June 09, 2011, 03:36:53 PM »

Nevada is Mormon country, so Romney would win.

I think NC would also go for Romney and Iowa.
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« Reply #36 on: June 09, 2011, 03:44:07 PM »

Nevada is Mormon country, so Romney would win.

The population of Nevada is 11% Mormon, and they voted overwhelmingly for John McCain in 2008 when Obama won the state by twelve points.
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« Reply #37 on: June 09, 2011, 04:38:25 PM »



Assuming unemployment stands within a point of what it is today

I wouldn't write off NM, IA, VA, NC or even OR or PA in such a scenario.

Depends on a strong unity GOP candidate, tho.  A LOT depends on a strong unity GOP candidate.
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« Reply #38 on: June 09, 2011, 05:26:46 PM »



Assuming unemployment stands within a point of what it is today

New Hampshire and Michigan would never vote for this Mitt Romney.
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« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2011, 03:27:48 PM »



Assuming unemployment stands within a point of what it is today

No way. Romney  gets caught in a flip-flop on rescuing the auto industry and loses Michigan and Ohio (more precisely, doesn't get them back). Romney has the albatross of the Ryan plan to privatize Medicare and Medicaid , which won't play in Florida or Arizona. Indiana and Missouri depend heavily on the auto industry, if not as much as Michigan and Ohio.

I don't know what connection Mitt has to New Hampshire, so I think he loses the state (more precisely, doesn't flip it). 

Neither Colorado nor Nevada is "Mormon Country". President Obama won't win Nevada by the overwhelming margin that he won it by in 2008 in the panic following the housing crash. Demographics of both states favor the President.

Republicans' monomaniacal calls for privatizing everything and tax cuts for the super-rich won't be well-received.       
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« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2011, 07:48:40 PM »



Assuming unemployment stands within a point of what it is today

No way. Romney  gets caught in a flip-flop on rescuing the auto industry and loses Michigan and Ohio (more precisely, doesn't get them back). Romney has the albatross of the Ryan plan to privatize Medicare and Medicaid , which won't play in Florida or Arizona. Indiana and Missouri depend heavily on the auto industry, if not as much as Michigan and Ohio.

I don't know what connection Mitt has to New Hampshire, so I think he loses the state (more precisely, doesn't flip it). 

Neither Colorado nor Nevada is "Mormon Country". President Obama won't win Nevada by the overwhelming margin that he won it by in 2008 in the panic following the housing crash. Demographics of both states favor the President.

Republicans' monomaniacal calls for privatizing everything and tax cuts for the super-rich won't be well-received.       

FYI, Romney is from MA, which neighbors NH.  He has thousands of volunteers canvassing in NH for the GOTV.
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« Reply #41 on: June 10, 2011, 08:34:38 PM »

Romney *vomits*
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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2011, 09:13:54 PM »

If unemployment continues at 9% and rising, if the economy continues to be facing a major stall, if jobs created continues to lag, then the electorate will turn to Romney's legendary economic and business expertise to get the economy back on track and Romney will defeat Obama.

What? The expertise at being born the scion of a multi-million dollar fortune and---surprise, surprise---not blowing it?

While it is true that Mitt Romney was raised in an affluent family, it is also true that as a venture capitalist and successful businessman and manager, he made a personal fortune on his own volition, estimated at between 200 and 250 million dollars.

Some have speculated his net worth is closer to 500 million dollars, but 250 million dollars seems more likely.

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Mitt Romney made his own personal fortune, not dependent on that of his famous father.
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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2011, 09:19:55 PM »

If unemployment continues at 9% and rising, if the economy continues to be facing a major stall, if jobs created continues to lag, then the electorate will turn to Romney's legendary economic and business expertise to get the economy back on track and Romney will defeat Obama.

What? The expertise at being born the scion of a multi-million dollar fortune and---surprise, surprise---not blowing it?

While it is true that Mitt Romney was raised in an affluent family, it is also true that as a venture capitalist and successful businessman and manager, he made a personal fortune on his own volition, estimated at between 200 and 250 million dollars.

Some have speculated his net worth is closer to 500 million dollars, but 250 million dollars seems more likely.

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Mitt Romney made his own personal fortune, not dependent on that of his famous father.
Mitt Romney also has the experience of turning around a sinking ship - See 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.
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« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2011, 12:58:08 AM »

If unemployment continues at 9% and rising, if the economy continues to be facing a major stall, if jobs created continues to lag, then the electorate will turn to Romney's legendary economic and business expertise to get the economy back on track and Romney will defeat Obama.

What? The expertise at being born the scion of a multi-million dollar fortune and---surprise, surprise---not blowing it?

While it is true that Mitt Romney was raised in an affluent family, it is also true that as a venture capitalist and successful businessman and manager, he made a personal fortune on his own volition, estimated at between 200 and 250 million dollars.

Some have speculated his net worth is closer to 500 million dollars, but 250 million dollars seems more likely.

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Mitt Romney made his own personal fortune, not dependent on that of his famous father.
Mitt Romney also has the experience of turning around a sinking ship - See 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.

I like this common American misconception, that being a good businessman makes you a good political leader.
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« Reply #45 on: June 11, 2011, 04:11:53 AM »

It will be President Mitt Romney
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« Reply #46 on: June 11, 2011, 08:44:05 AM »


I think so too.
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« Reply #47 on: June 11, 2011, 09:52:12 AM »

If unemployment continues at 9% and rising, if the economy continues to be facing a major stall, if jobs created continues to lag, then the electorate will turn to Romney's legendary economic and business expertise to get the economy back on track and Romney will defeat Obama.

What? The expertise at being born the scion of a multi-million dollar fortune and---surprise, surprise---not blowing it?

While it is true that Mitt Romney was raised in an affluent family, it is also true that as a venture capitalist and successful businessman and manager, he made a personal fortune on his own volition, estimated at between 200 and 250 million dollars.

Some have speculated his net worth is closer to 500 million dollars, but 250 million dollars seems more likely.

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Mitt Romney made his own personal fortune, not dependent on that of his famous father.
Mitt Romney also has the experience of turning around a sinking ship - See 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.

I like this common American misconception, that being a good businessman makes you a good political leader.
No one ever said that Romney's vast amount in the private sector will guarantee he'll make a good President. But it's certainly something good to have when running for President.
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« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2011, 10:03:18 AM »


I don't - the skills to be a successful businessman and the skills to be a successful president are markedly different... the funny thing is, I think Romney probably has both. But I think there are too many internal GOP dynamics going on that don't work in his favour. He will have rough time in the South... the evangelicals won't hold their nose at primary time... they might in the general, but the enthusiasm will be low.

Plus Obama is in a pretty solid position, if Obama was in the position the Doom-sayers are trying to suggest he would not doing so well on a state-by-state basis.

I think Romney would make it close during the general, but I'm not sure he gets out of the primary... if he does, I think he's going to be damaged. Unlike the dems in 2008 - there were pretty much no significant policy differences between Obama and Clinton...
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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2011, 10:11:12 AM »

If unemployment continues at 9% and rising, if the economy continues to be facing a major stall, if jobs created continues to lag, then the electorate will turn to Romney's legendary economic and business expertise to get the economy back on track and Romney will defeat Obama.

What? The expertise at being born the scion of a multi-million dollar fortune and---surprise, surprise---not blowing it?

While it is true that Mitt Romney was raised in an affluent family, it is also true that as a venture capitalist and successful businessman and manager, he made a personal fortune on his own volition, estimated at between 200 and 250 million dollars.

Some have speculated his net worth is closer to 500 million dollars, but 250 million dollars seems more likely.

Regardless, the fact of the matter is that Mitt Romney made his own personal fortune, not dependent on that of his famous father.
Mitt Romney also has the experience of turning around a sinking ship - See 2002 Salt Lake City Olympics.

I like this common American misconception, that being a good businessman makes you a good political leader.

No misconception at all my friend.  Being a good businessman, as you put it, is one indication that such an individual is up to the task of executive management.  As I say, it is one indication, but with Romney, he as well has the resume of a proven and successful political leader.

When it comes right down to it, there is no guarantee that anyone, from whatever background, is going to make an outstanding political leader, and most certainly no guarantee that they are going to make an outstanding or even good President.

However, a proven background in the private sector, and or in the political/public sector, is most definitely a good indication of their capabilities when it comes to political office.
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