SENATE BILL: Massive OSPR Amendment (Passed)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If you don't think that is massive, there will be a lot more to be added in the next day or two, might even have to condense what is there even. So by the time we are finished, there will be no doubt on whether this bill is massive or not.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Endorsed!

[Antonio the Sixth]

Seems right to me, supported.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I don't see the point of this. If we want to end debate, why not just invoke cloture?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

If we want to end debate, why not just invoke cloture?

That wasn't just a rhetorical question.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If we want to end debate, why not just invoke cloture?

That wasn't just a rhetorical question.

If you haven't noticed, you aren't the only one who is in need of action on my part that has been forced to wait these past four or five days.

Cloture doesn't work on the initial 72 hour hard minimum debate time, atleast not from my interpretation of the OSPR. Also cloture requires a vote and the whole point of this is to speed things up. The second bolded line essentially allows the PPT to avoid having to do the cloture vote on literally every god damn bill regardless of how many support it. The point is, in a game like this, the only time there is a need for this process of cloture is if debate hasn't finished and someone wants to continue while others don't. The bulk of the bills we deal with aren't so and as such when considering the practicalities, this is just a time waister on most items.

[bgwah]

This seems like a good idea. I will vote for it.

[Meeker]

No complaints here.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Article 4, Section 4


Article 5, Section 1

In Section 1 of Article 5, shouldn't it say "legislation" rather than "amendment(s)"?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well, does anyone else have an opinion on this?

[bgwah]

Well, does anyone else have an opinion on this?

Honestly, you're the PPT, and have done it more than anyone else in the Senate. If you think this is a good idea than I believe you. I read through it and didn't see anything wrong or objectionable, FWIW.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Well, does anyone else have an opinion on this?

Honestly, you're the PPT, and have done it more than anyone else in the Senate. If you think this is a good idea than I believe you. I read through it and didn't see anything wrong or objectionable, FWIW.

I back Bgwah's comments 100%.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

I ask for a vote.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I was referring to the alleged typo Article 5. I don't want to include a change to something that is correct already. Dallas and I ran across this about six weeks ago and I intended to include a correction in this amendment if one was needed. Where is Marokai Blue, he has a "thing" for certain portions of the OSPR, what about this one?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

can we include in this a way to deal with instances where we have an emergency but we already have something in the emergency/forum affairs slot?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

can we include in this a way to deal with instances where we have an emergency but we already have something in the emergency/forum affairs slot?

Such would be appropriate in my opinion. Though off the top of my head I haven't many ideas right now, though I have in the past I think. While I am refreshing my apparently declining memory, ideas from yourself and others would be welcomed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Since there have been no substantive responses on the matter, I plan to offer an amendment tomorrow to fix what I think is an error currently in the OSPR in Article 5.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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The first three changes fix what is clearly the result of a lazy copy and paste job by someone. For example, there is no clause 4 in Section 1 of Article 5 and clause 3 isn't really related. Clause 3 and 4 of Section 1 of Article 4 would make perfect sense though, to be referenced here.

The last sentence is something I am sneaking in at midnight to forever curse future PPT's with one of my brilliant ideas. I would appreciate it if you don't look at it, so that you won't ask and thus I won't have to tell you why.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yes, they haven't seen this yet.



Senators have 24 hours to object.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment is passed.


Edit: Actually I jumped the gun by 10 minutes. It's passed now though. Trust me.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

can we include in this a way to deal with instances where we have an emergency but we already have something in the emergency/forum affairs slot?

^^^ The two things I can come up with for this are

1. Limit the PPT to only allow him to use the slot in a defined set of circumstances.

and/or:

2. Split the slot




We also need to establish procedures for the proper handling of the FPR (Foreign Policy Review) so that it can be debated in an effective and efficient way since disagreements formed in the last debate and lack of directly related procedures became a hindrance. This can be handled numerous ways. 

1. Apply normal procedures to the it.
2. Create its own separate and specific procedures (probably the most effective since there are aspects about it that are very different from normal legislation.

and now I have forgot the others.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Feedback on how to proceed would certainly be appreciated on both of the above matters.


If I have time today, I shall add my previous passed amendment to the original text so as to provide the current text before any further amendments are added.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

what do you think about allowing the PPT to open an extra slot? Senators could then object and close it if they feel the issue is not deserving of emergency status, and once the issue is completed, that slot disappears rather than being filled by new legislation.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Interesting proposal. I think the President-elect might want to opine on this as well since he mentioned a desire to deal with issue of emergencies as it relates to the Senate.