The Gay Empire State

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

I hate the fact that rainbows are associated with homosexuality.

[Holmes]

Why? Colours are pretty!

[Smash255]

Anyone with a link to yea/nay?

Saland, Grisanti are the two flippers, everything else stayed as it was (Lanza, Ball voted No)

Thx. Glad some Upstate Repubs. had the guts to break ranks.

Have to say the reps on LI really disappointed on this.  The majority of those in the Assembly from LI voted against, and not a single LI Senator voted in favor.

[Phony Moderate]

GREAT NEWS!!!!

And I think we have a Democratic frontrunner for 2016.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Why? Colours are pretty!

Exactly. I want to be able to admit to enjoying pretty colours without people speculating my sexuality. I'm 85% straight, and that's not gonna change. (Almost no one is 100% straight)

[Thomas D]

GREAT NEWS!!!!

And I think we have a Democratic frontrunner for 2016.

He's got my vote.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Anyone with a link to yea/nay?

Saland, Grisanti are the two flippers, everything else stayed as it was (Lanza, Ball voted No)

Thx. Glad some Upstate Repubs. had the guts to break ranks.

Have to say the reps on LI really disappointed on this.  The majority of those in the Assembly from LI voted against, and not a single LI Senator voted in favor.

I thought Hannon did?

[exopolitician]

GREAT NEWS!!!!

And I think we have a Democratic frontrunner for 2016.

He's got my vote.

Same.

[Smash255]

Anyone with a link to yea/nay?

Saland, Grisanti are the two flippers, everything else stayed as it was (Lanza, Ball voted No)

Thx. Glad some Upstate Repubs. had the guts to break ranks.

Have to say the reps on LI really disappointed on this.  The majority of those in the Assembly from LI voted against, and not a single LI Senator voted in favor.

I thought Hannon did?

I thought so at first as well, but what Hannon voted for (and spoke in support of) was the bill with the exemptions, he then voted against the actual bill itself.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

This is what pro-family legislation looks like.

That what anti-family legislation looks like

If you are all so glad for gays being allowed marriage
Then loosen the draconian gun laws.

Uh, how the hell are those two things even remotely related?
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This demonstrates the utter hypocrisy of the left on civil liberties.
They are ok with rights for destructive lifestyles but deny self defense rights via firearms.
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I'm a liberal who supports gun rights...
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You are being consistent in your liberalism in that case. My rant was ment for those who are pro-gay marriage yet anti-gun rights.

He also doesn't know the process of getting a referendum on the ballot in New York. Thus, ignore.

Sorry, I'm new-ish. Is he always like this or are there issues he's more sensible on?

I actually am sensible on some issues. I'm anti-war, anti-bailouts, I'm a modrate-ish on immigration, and on some environmental issues. BTRD just has this problem with my questioning Obama's eligibility to be president.

[HST1948]

GREAT NEWS!!!!

And I think we have a Democratic frontrunner for 2016.

He's got my vote.

Same.

Count me in

[patrick1]

Anyone with a link to yea/nay?

Saland, Grisanti are the two flippers, everything else stayed as it was (Lanza, Ball voted No)

Thx. Glad some Upstate Repubs. had the guts to break ranks.

Have to say the reps on LI really disappointed on this.  The majority of those in the Assembly from LI voted against, and not a single LI Senator voted in favor.

Yep. I'm surprised a bit as I don't think there are real solid majorities either way in any of the districts. I guess they felt they had to appease a vocal base. I haven't been following that closely, but at least Skelos didn't obstruct too much and allowed a vote.

[Smash255]

Coolidge, no birthers are sensible, and neither are those who do not know how to properly quote a post.

[Meeker]

Ok, who's next?

Oregon voter referendum in 2012 seems to almost be a go. California, no. Prop 8 trial only (annoyingly). Maybe Maryland will try again next year, but that will go to a voter referendum anyway.

If Inslee wins we might be able to pass it in Washington. The State Senate will be the tricky part; Republicans are set to make gains and two of the Democrats are horrible on gay rights.

[Smash255]

Anyone with a link to yea/nay?

Saland, Grisanti are the two flippers, everything else stayed as it was (Lanza, Ball voted No)

Thx. Glad some Upstate Repubs. had the guts to break ranks.

Have to say the reps on LI really disappointed on this.  The majority of those in the Assembly from LI voted against, and not a single LI Senator voted in favor.

Yep. I'm surprised a bit as I don't think there are real solid majorities either way in any of the districts. I guess they felt they had to appease a vocal base. I haven't been following that closely, but at least Skelos didn't obstruct too much and allowed a vote.

Judging by the polls, I would say it has support in most if not all of the LI districts, with probably the strongest support in Martins's district.  Skelos dragged this on a bit, but glad he did at least allow for a vote, though I really don't think he had the political capital to be able to get away with without holding a vote without some very serious blow back.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Coolidge, no birthers are sensible, and neither are those who do not know how to properly quote a post.

I learnt my lesson on the second one. But birthers are sensible.

Ok, who's next?

Oregon voter referendum in 2012 seems to almost be a go. California, no. Prop 8 trial only (annoyingly). Maybe Maryland will try again next year, but that will go to a voter referendum anyway.

If Inslee wins we might be able to pass it in Washington. The State Senate will be the tricky part; Republicans are set to make gains and two of the Democrats are horrible on gay rights.

Indiana will be sending it to a direct vote of the people in 2014 in the correct direction of banning it.

[Meeker]

Coolidge, no birthers are sensible, and neither are those who do not know how to properly quote a post.

I learnt my lesson on the second one. But birthers are sensible.

Ok, who's next?

Oregon voter referendum in 2012 seems to almost be a go. California, no. Prop 8 trial only (annoyingly). Maybe Maryland will try again next year, but that will go to a voter referendum anyway.

If Inslee wins we might be able to pass it in Washington. The State Senate will be the tricky part; Republicans are set to make gains and two of the Democrats are horrible on gay rights.

Indiana will be sending it to a direct vote of the people in 2014 in the correct direction of banning it.

I don't believe Indiana gets to vote on Washington state laws.

[exopolitician]

You're killing the buzz man, go awayyy.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

Coolidge, no birthers are sensible, and neither are those who do not know how to properly quote a post.

I learnt my lesson on the second one. But birthers are sensible.

Ok, who's next?

Oregon voter referendum in 2012 seems to almost be a go. California, no. Prop 8 trial only (annoyingly). Maybe Maryland will try again next year, but that will go to a voter referendum anyway.

If Inslee wins we might be able to pass it in Washington. The State Senate will be the tricky part; Republicans are set to make gains and two of the Democrats are horrible on gay rights.

Indiana will be sending it to a direct vote of the people in 2014 in the correct direction of banning it.

I don't believe Indiana gets to vote on Washington state laws.

Of course we don't. But we get to on our own laws

[Tender Branson]

[RIP Robert H Bork]

That's certainly very unfortunate.

This is what pro-family legislation looks like.

Um, stop trolling.

[Fuzzybigfoot]

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I actually am sensible on some issues. I'm anti-war, anti-bailouts, I'm a modrate-ish on immigration, and on some environmental issues. BTRD just has this problem with my questioning Obama's eligibility to be president.

I'll freely admit that I have a problem with your position on this, because this is a major issue for me (particularly considering that one of my best friends in the whole world is a gay girl who lives in New York--Roy McDonald's district, actually), but all right, that sounds like a fairly non-insane subvariety of conservatism there. It seems a bit Old Right, which is very far from where I stand but at least doesn't completely make me want to throw up. All things considered it's just a shame that we're living in a political climate where things like the President's eligibility to be President (which, I'll be totally honest with you, I do think your alleged position on is at least somewhat crankish) are actually 'issues' at all, at least in the public mind.

Um, stop trolling.

Do gay people not have families or something? I'm sure that'll be rather disappointing news to several people I'm very close to.

[Tender Branson]

With his position still undeclared, Senator Mark J. Grisanti, a Republican from Buffalo who had sought office promising to oppose same-sex marriage, told his colleagues he had agonized for months before concluding he had been wrong.

“I apologize for those who feel offended,” Mr. Grisanti said, adding, “I cannot deny a person, a human being, a taxpayer, a worker, the people of my district and across this state, the State of New York, and those people who make this the great state that it is the same rights that I have with my wife.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/25/nyregion/gay-marriage-approved-by-new-york-senate.html

Well said ...

[Lief 🗽]