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« on: June 14, 2011, 01:02:52 pm »
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June 21st. Liberty State Park, NJ.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/top/all/7609982.html
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« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2011, 01:09:08 pm »
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Good.  I think he's more competent than the rest of the bunch.
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« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2011, 01:29:02 pm »
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New Jersey? That's random...
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« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2011, 01:35:56 pm »
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I don't know how I feel about this. It splits the sane vote and increases the chances a crazy is nominated. I'll be supporting him though.
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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2011, 01:37:25 pm »
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New Jersey? That's random...

Reagan used the same site. Of course, Hudson County had more than 5 Republicans at the time.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2011, 03:16:34 pm »
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If he does this right he could be positioned very strongly for 2016.
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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2011, 04:05:58 pm »
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If he does this right he could be positioned very strongly for 2016.

How? To do so he has to actually perform well in some races. All the MSM adoration in the world won't matter much if he can't at least break 20% in NH and win somewhere. The best example would be also rans from 08 like Huckabee, or at a much lower threshold level would be Wesley Clark in 04. I can't imagine Huntsman doing anywhere as well as Huckabee, and I have great difficulty seeing how he even breaks out of the pack to win anywhere and place a few respectable second place finishes elsewhere.

He's simply too moderate and too Mormon for the national GOP primaries, and with Romney already filling that void this wasn't the year to run.
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« Reply #7 on: June 14, 2011, 04:38:52 pm »
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How? To do so he has to actually perform well in some races.

Obviously he has to perform as well as Romney 2008 did. Besides a few exceptions, the GOP nominates the candidate that has established themselves the most, usually through previous tries at the nomination. This is why, unless some Earth shattering event, Romney will be the nominee in this upcoming election.

The only way that running this year hurts Huntsman is if he runs a campaign as inept as Thompson 2008, which is simply possible but not probable.
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« Reply #8 on: June 14, 2011, 04:47:34 pm »
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New Jersey? That's random...

There's a statue of some lady with a torch right behind the park.
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« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2011, 04:48:25 pm »
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New Jersey? That's random...

There's a statue of some lady with a torch right behind the park.

Any chance Matthew can get involved in the whole process?
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« Reply #10 on: June 14, 2011, 05:35:07 pm »
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A nice setting, with the Statue of Liberty behind him...Dont know how many people will show up though..
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« Reply #11 on: June 14, 2011, 05:41:31 pm »
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A nice setting, with the Statue of Liberty behind him...Dont know how many people will show up though..

Excluding staff, media, and people who happen to stop because there are news cameras -- 7
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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2011, 10:47:37 pm »
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...I just realised that 'MSM' means 'mainstream media' and not 'moderate sane Mormon'.
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« Reply #13 on: June 15, 2011, 03:49:30 am »

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"I intend to announce my candidacy for the presidency of the United States of America a week from today," he said during a discussion about China policy in New York with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.

I've mentioned this for other candidates as well, but I still find this formulation strange.  In making the above statement, Huntsman has already announced that he's running.  So in effect, he's already announced.
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« Reply #14 on: June 15, 2011, 08:11:42 am »
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How? To do so he has to actually perform well in some races.

Obviously he has to perform as well as Romney 2008 did. Besides a few exceptions, the GOP nominates the candidate that has established themselves the most, usually through previous tries at the nomination. This is why, unless some Earth shattering event, Romney will be the nominee in this upcoming election.

The only way that running this year hurts Huntsman is if he runs a campaign as inept as Thompson 2008, which is simply possible but not probable.

Coming for opposite ends of the expectations scale, with Thompson being intially lauded as "the New Reagan" and Huntsman being labeled as either "far too moderate" or simply "who?", then I suppose finishing a weak 3rd in two important early states before dropping out wouldn't kill his future presidential ambitions, but I'm not sure it'd help them either. Regardless, I'm skeptical whether he can manage even that.

Maybe it would've been better to take Hatch's seat (polls showed him a mile ahead of Orrin earlier this year, IIRC) to earn some chits with the teabaggers as a "Washington insider slayer", then keep his powder dry for later runs in 16 or 20.
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« Reply #15 on: June 15, 2011, 08:25:39 am »
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He seems like an intelligent enough guy but I can't imagine his candidacy going anywhere.
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« Reply #16 on: June 15, 2011, 09:44:36 am »
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here's the video clip:
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-huntsman-announces-that-he-will-announce-a-presidential-bid-next-tuesday/
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« Reply #17 on: June 15, 2011, 01:09:42 pm »
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I think the impact Huntsman may have on this race is that he will Nader Romney and may hurt him a lot in NH.

However his chance of being nominated is close to 0
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« Reply #18 on: June 15, 2011, 05:34:35 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: June 15, 2011, 05:53:17 pm »
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I'm wondering what angle Huntsman's campaign will take; how does he differentiate from Romney on the issues?
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« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2011, 01:28:19 pm »
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I'll be voting for Huntsman.

(I'm a registered Republican)
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« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2011, 01:30:08 pm »
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I'm wondering what angle Huntsman's campaign will take; how does he differentiate from Romney on the issues?
His campaign will focus on the budget, and getting out of Afghanistan.
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« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2011, 01:50:38 pm »
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I support limited military intervention in Libya, but after reading about his latest foreign policy pronouncements about withdrawing from Afghanistan, our military presence in certain corners of the world, and re-evaluating who our friends and who our enemies are, I must say that I support him even more strongly now.   
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« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2011, 01:54:47 pm »
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He's the only GOP candidate I could see myself supporting in the race, unless he takes a hard turn right.

My support is still behind the President but who knows what can happen in a year.
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« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2011, 03:39:03 pm »
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I support limited military intervention in Libya, but after reading about his latest foreign policy pronouncements about withdrawing from Afghanistan, our military presence in certain corners of the world, and re-evaluating who our friends and who our enemies are, I must say that I support him even more strongly now.   

I'm beginning to see the method to his madness -- wait for the debate, see where the chips start to fall, differentiate.  Nothing overly inconsistent with his record, but size up the field and find where his opportunities lie.

If he's for coming home from AfPak and reducing our worldwide military presence, he has firmed up my support.
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