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Insula Dei
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Offices of the Social Democratic Party
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June 16, 2011, 01:50:50 pm »
I hereby declare the SDP's office building here on Independence Square in St. Mark's to be opened.
EDIT: How sure are we that the party's name will be SDP? If anyone has a better idea, now's the time.
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Re: Offices of the Social Democratic Party
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June 16, 2011, 03:13:43 pm »
SDP is a good, generic name that gets the point across. While it may not be as interesting as some other potential names, I think it's important that the main center-left party has a straight-to-the point name that doesn't have the potential to alienate its base. We wouldn't want to be called a "Front," for instance.
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Insula Dei
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Re: Offices of the Social Democratic Party
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June 16, 2011, 03:24:16 pm »
I always liked 'SDLP' actually. Or 'SDPA' or something along those lines. But just SDP indeed has a lot of merits, yes.
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Re: Offices of the Social Democratic Party
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June 16, 2011, 06:09:28 pm »
The trouble with 'SDP' is... well...
yeah.
But there's nothing wrong with being known as Social Democrats, so how about we just add another letter somewhere?
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June 16, 2011, 06:26:53 pm »
Well, if you'd like to be known as Social Democrats, but not as the SDP, we could go for something like USD (Union of Social Democrats) or SDA (Social Democratic Alliance).
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Insula Dei
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Re: Offices of the Social Democratic Party
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June 17, 2011, 09:38:58 am »
Or how about DSP (Democratic Socialist Party)?
Personally I prefer to be a party, rather than a union or a block or something.
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June 17, 2011, 10:14:45 am »
Quote from: Johannes Overgaard, Antillan MP (SDP-Bronseland) on June 16, 2011, 06:26:53 pm
Well, if you'd like to be known as Social Democrats, but not as the SDP, we could go for something like USD (Union of Social Democrats) or
SDA (Social Democratic Alliance).
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June 17, 2011, 01:39:29 pm »
Quote from: The Revolution will be no rerun, the Revolution will be live on June 17, 2011, 09:38:58 am
Or how about DSP (Democratic Socialist Party)?
Personally I prefer to be a party, rather than a union or a block or something.
The problem there is that there is a difference between
Social Democracy
and
Democratic Socialism
. The SDP is meant to be a big-tent center-left party that still generally favors a capitalist system. As such, the term "Democratic Socialism" may not sit well with the more capitalist members of the party (such as Overgaard).
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Re: Offices of the Social Democratic Party
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June 17, 2011, 01:48:39 pm »
(in Character)... I've stumbled into the wrong room i think, Sorry to disturb, yes its Mr De Wilde...
Not to interrupt, but mr Overgaard is right, there is a difference, plus there is already a Democratic Socialist party listed... just not using that name since the Cooperatives is a mildy big tent left-enviro-agrarian outfit.
Drinks sometime chaps!? see you in the Assembly then
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Insula Dei
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June 17, 2011, 02:18:38 pm »
Quote from: Johannes Overgaard, Antillan MP (SDP-Bronseland) on June 17, 2011, 01:39:29 pm
Quote from: The Revolution will be no rerun, the Revolution will be live on June 17, 2011, 09:38:58 am
Or how about DSP (Democratic Socialist Party)?
Personally I prefer to be a party, rather than a union or a block or something.
The problem there is that there is a difference between
Social Democracy
and
Democratic Socialism
. The SDP is meant to be a big-tent center-left party that still generally favors a capitalist system. As such, the term "Democratic Socialism" may not sit well with the more capitalist members of the party (such as Overgaard).
Ah, but then party names aren't always what they should be, as Portugal continues to demonstrate.
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June 17, 2011, 05:02:33 pm »
Socialist Party?
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June 17, 2011, 07:42:04 pm »
Quote from: Johannes Overgaard, Antillan MP (SDP-Bronseland) on June 17, 2011, 01:39:29 pm
The problem there is that there is a difference between
Social Democracy
and
Democratic Socialism
There isn't really. Generically the two terms mean exactly the same thing; reformist/revisionist/gradualist socialism, adhering to parliamentary norms. In certain specific contexts (namely in Britain between about 1950 and 1990) the two terms have meant something
specifically
different, of course, but specifics relating to another country aren't relevant to how this party is to be named.
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Insula Dei
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June 18, 2011, 06:40:20 am »
Or you know, given our status (presumably) as the party that freed the nation from British tyranny, we could also go for something off the wall, like: (Antillian) Independence Party or Antillian National Union.
I'd still prefer some variant with Socialist, Social-Democrat,... and so on, but there are alternatives.
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June 18, 2011, 08:09:14 am »
I'm sorry if this comes across as back-slapping, but I think we're doing very well here. We set this party up (in practice anyway) a couple of days ago and
already
we're having an endless debate about our identity, just like a real social democratic party!
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June 18, 2011, 09:43:09 am »
Ooc: Peoples front of Judea or judean people's front. Get on with it!
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Re: Offices of the Social Democratic Party
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June 19, 2011, 08:05:51 pm »
Since I'm not a member, this might be out of order, but if I might come with a few proposals.
SDA - Social Democratic Alternative - Social Democratic Alliance
SLP/SDLP - Socialist Labour Party - Social Democratic Labour Party
SDU - Social Democratic Union - Social Democratic Unity
SPP - Socialist People's Party
SD(P)M - Social Democratic (Popular) Movement
UL(C) - United Left (Coalition)
SRP - Social Reform Party
Personally I find just SDP a bit boring. Good luck to y'all, hope you find the right name.
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Quote from: Swedish Cheese on June 19, 2011, 08:05:51 pm
SPP - Socialist People's Party
That's the one I think. Yes. Especially as it seems as though the party is going to have a nationalist streak with possible traces of a national liberation movement of some kind decades ago.
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