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Question: Should the United States change its method of electing presidents from an electoral college to direct popular vote (and a runoff if no candidate gets a majority of the vote in the first round)?
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
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« on: June 22, 2011, 09:11:05 PM »

Hell yes.

Who are the 8 yes votes so far and what possible justification can they present in favor of such an anti-democratic anachronism? Huh

Well first off, until elections are handled at the Federal level instead of the State level so that voting eligibility is uniform (it's a lot more uniform than it was when the Constitution was adopted, but still not 100% uniform) It makes sense to weight voting power in a manner that who is eligible to vote does not skew the results.  I wouldn't mind seeing some tinkering to the Electoral College, such as making it be based purely on the House or requiring that States use a PR allocation of votes instead of winner take all.
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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2011, 03:40:23 PM »


I ask this somewhat rhetorically, because the EC is designed in some ways to replace the parliamentary function of selecting the head of government (ie the prime minister). The Founders did not want a British-style parliament and explicitly separated the executive from legislative branches. Nonetheless, they still perceived a body that mirrored the legislature acting as a parliament to select the president - the Electoral College.

Wrong.  The Westminster parliamentary system had not quite developed yet when the Constitution was ratified, as the prime minister was still seen as being in service to the king and not to Parliament.  They saw the President as substituting for the king and Congress as substituting for Parliament, but added aspects to the system to limit the power of the President and strengthen Congress.  We simply diverged from the British system before it moved into a Westminster parliamentary system.

While the reference to Westminster is arguable, muon is quite correct that the Framers were purposely trying to avoid the example of having the legislative elect the executive that was the practice in a majority of the States at the time of the adoption of the Constitution.
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