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[Nym90]

District 3:

Al

[Nym90]

There seems to be some confusion as to the vote totals in D1. I am seeing some media outlets have it at 11-10 Supersoulty. I think Defarge thought it was 11-11, which is why he changed his vote to invalidate it.

There's no question that Supersoulty won, but I was just curious as to what the actual count is.

[Nym90]

OK, If I'm wrong, correct me.

SuperSoulty votes:
AndrewBerger
ColinW
Erc
Huckleberry Finn
J.J.
Julien
Kemperor
Keystone Phil
Nation
Patrick1
Richard B Cheney
Supersoulty
(12)

Bulldog votes:
Boss Tweed
Danwxman
EarlAW
IrishDemocrat
LordTraldan
Romeomustdie
Smash255
TheBulldog
True Democrat
(9)

Looks right to me. In that case, Defarge invalidating his vote didn't actually change anything.

Maybe some people were accidentally counting NickG's vote for Bulldog, that may have been leading some media outlets to incorrectly state the race as tied 11-11. As well, these sources were clearly not counting MIke NixonNow's vote. The race was actually 12-10, then became 12-9 when Defarge invalidated his ballot.

[Nym90]

I should have changed Nixon to PA on the list.  The reason its legal is because he didnt *move* to Texas, his registration in Texas was his first under the account he is currently using.  So, he can move to PA and stay there for 4 months.

This is just one of many, many updates that need to be made to the voter lists post-election.  (Time to do the asterisk thing, and all that, a couple people moved and changed party during the election...)  I'll get a fresh list posted tomorrow evening.

NixonNow violated the spirit of the law, as he is clearly the same person as he was before, under his old deleted account. Therefore, he has changed registrations more times than allowed; but as he deleted his old account and created a new one, he followed the letter of the law.

[Nym90]

OK, If I'm wrong, correct me.

SuperSoulty votes:
AndrewBerger
ColinW
Erc
Huckleberry Finn
J.J.
Julien
Kemperor
Keystone Phil
Nation
Patrick1
Richard B Cheney
Supersoulty
(12)

Bulldog votes:
Boss Tweed
Danwxman
EarlAW
IrishDemocrat
LordTraldan
Romeomustdie
Smash255
TheBulldog
True Democrat
(9)

Looks right to me. In that case, Defarge invalidating his vote didn't actually change anything.

Maybe some people were accidentally counting NickG's vote for Bulldog, that may have been leading some media outlets to incorrectly state the race as tied 11-11. As well, these sources were clearly not counting MIke NixonNow's vote. The race was actually 12-10, then became 12-9 when Defarge invalidated his ballot.

Don't try to cheapen Defarge's selfless act.

Not cheapening it. If someone changes his mind and wants to vote for a different candidate, I have no problem with that at all. He did the honorable thing, to be willing to admit that he felt his vote was a mistake, and that he desired to change it. I wish he had deleted his vote and made a new post with his new vote, in that case the vote would have actually been counted for you.

Just pointing out that the media didn't do the best job in their vote counting this year. It was a serious error in this case as it led to much consternation as to what the result would be when it wasn't actually in doubt in the final hours.

[Nym90]

I voted for Harry in District 4 (among with all others, being not too clear about the rules)

However, my vote was not counted because I edited it. Can I challenge this in the Supreme Court?

Dave

No you cannot. It is Atlasian law that you cannot edit a vote and if you do it will not be counted. You could have deleted your vote and revoted but it is too late to due so. If you did bring this to the court the court would not accept the challenge since the office of the SoFA has said that if you edit a vote it cannot be counted.

I must say congradulations to all of the winners. Gabu, WMS, Al, Siege and Supersoulty are all great men who deserved to win and will help and serve Atlasia to the best of their abilities. I must also thank Defarge for doing the self-less act of editing his vote and thus giving Supersoulty the lead. I thank both him and Gabu for seeing that the man who deserved to win that race was Supersoulty. I once against congradulate all the victories and say good luck to all those who lost.

For one thing, I don't think you have any legal standing to act on behalf of the Court and say what they would rule. Unless you have spoken to every justice, you don't know what they would say. Even if you have you don't really have any authority to speak on their behalf on this manner.

Not to mention that you are wrong in saying that he can't challenge it. He has every right to challenge it. Whether he will win or not is uncertain, but you make it sound as if he can't challenge it.

As I've said in other threads, it's unclear as to whether a vote constitutes the entire post, or just the text stating the formal expression of preference. Just because he edited his post doesn't mean he changed his vote, and he can get plenty of witnesses to attest to the fact that his vote didn't change.

It's also worth noting that Supersoulty was 2 votes ahead when Defarge changed his vote. I still strongly respect him for having the guts to admit that he thought he had made a mistake, but it didn't change the outcome of the race.

[Nym90]

Okay fine Nym, this is the last time I ever try to state what I think is the precident.

There's nothing wrong with stating your opinion, but it's just factually wrong to say that he can't challenge it. You can express an opinion that he'll lose, and that you don't think he should challenge it, but it looks like you are trying to make him think that he can't challenge it, so that he won't. I don't think that is what you are actually trying to do, but it gives that appearance.

As for precedent, votes like this have been counted before. It can be argued that it was wrong to count those votes as well, but there is a precedent established for counting votes as long as the vote wasn't altered, only the post.

[Nym90]

Okay fine Nym, this is the last time I ever try to state what I think is the precident.

There's nothing wrong with stating your opinion, but it's just factually wrong to say that he can't challenge it. You can express an opinion that he'll lose, and that you don't think he should challenge it, but it looks like you are trying to make him think that he can't challenge it, so that he won't. I don't think that is what you are actually trying to do, but it gives that appearance.

As for precedent, votes like this have been counted before. It can be argued that it was wrong to count those votes as well, but there is a precedent established for counting votes as long as the vote wasn't altered, only the post.

I'm not Keystone I don't look for fights.

Excuse me, Colin, but I'd appreciate it if you grew up alittle. I don't go around looking for fights.

That was one of the most comical and self-ironic statements I've heard today.

So comical and self-ironic that you had to say so twice, in fact! Wow. :-)