your position on syria

[Хahar 🤔]

As Rocket put it I am rooting for my own sect: that is to say, for regime change.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

For once, I stand with Obama. Haven't we learned anything from Iraq?

It's so amusing that a lot of people, who were (rightly, after all) criticizing Bush, are now supporting intervention in Libya. I wonder how would they react if exactly the same thing happened under Bush.

Not hard to guess. It would be "omg, another imperialist war Bush took us into!"

[phk]

For once, I stand with Obama. Haven't we learned anything from Iraq?

It's so amusing that a lot of people, who were (rightly, after all) criticizing Bush, are now supporting intervention in Libya. I wonder how would they react if exactly the same thing happened under Bush.

Not hard to guess. It would be "omg, another imperialist war Bush took us into!"

Nonsense. The differences between Iraq 2003 and Libya 2011 are enormous. The action in Libya was authorized by the United Nations, the adventure into Iraq was not. This action had the support of the Arab governments (except for that prick Bashar), which the Invasion of Iraq did not. Another major reason was that the reason for intervening in Libya was humanitarian, the reason for going into Iraq was to dismantle some sort of weapons program that didn't exist (It later became humanitarian to avoid the "No WMDs" charges).

Also, a major difference is that Donald Rumsfeld is not in charge of the Libyan intervention, which means a lot to many people.

I'm suspect there'd be more support for Iraq had Saddam Hussein been a Shi'a or a Chaldean.

[California8429]

option one, obviously.

[Cincinnatus]

For once, I stand with Obama. Haven't we learned anything from Iraq?

It's so amusing that a lot of people, who were (rightly, after all) criticizing Bush, are now supporting intervention in Libya. I wonder how would they react if exactly the same thing happened under Bush.

Not hard to guess. It would be "omg, another imperialist war Bush took us into!"

Nonsense. The differences between Iraq 2003 and Libya 2011 are enormous. The action in Libya was authorized by the United Nations, the adventure into Iraq was not. This action had the support of the Arab governments (except for that prick Bashar), which the Invasion of Iraq did not. Another major reason was that the reason for intervening in Libya was humanitarian, the reason for going into Iraq was to dismantle some sort of weapons program that didn't exist (It later became humanitarian to avoid the "No WMDs" charges).

Also, a major difference is that Donald Rumsfeld is not in charge of the Libyan intervention, which means a lot to many people.

Though your points are valid, the truth remains that Libya would probably be perceived totally different had it happened under Bush.  I didn't agree with Iraq nor do I agree with Libya, and while I'm glad that we're currently limiting our scope of operations in Libya, to say that we're not in "hostilities" is quite ridiculous.

As far as Syria goes, I'd like regime change.  However, I will not support a regime change that involves U.S. intervention in Syria whatsoever.   

[TJ in Oregon]

Exactly! It's not so much that the isolationist side of this argument want to appease foreign dictators, but that we just can't afford to go around and 'fix' all the world's problems anymore.

A better choice of options for this poll would be "I stand by Obama, and support the policy of appeasing brutal dictators" OR "I support the US starting another war we don't have the money or discipline to finish in another country costing another $500 Billion and 2,000 more American lives"

[TheGlobalizer]

Exactly! It's not so much that the isolationist side of this argument want to appease foreign dictators, but that we just can't afford to go around and 'fix' all the world's problems anymore.

A better choice of options for this poll would be "I stand by Obama, and support the policy of appeasing brutal dictators" OR "I support the US starting another war we don't have the money or discipline to finish in another country costing another $500 Billion and 2,000 more American lives"

I voted regime change, but I'd prefer it occur by means in this order:

1.  Internal
2.  External - Arab
3.  External - Turkey
4.  External - UN
5.  External - EU
6.  External - NATO
7.  External - US