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« Reply #75 on: July 14, 2011, 12:54:13 pm »
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« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2011, 08:29:25 am »
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I'll propose this as an alternative:

2) The following is added to Section 8 as Clause 6: "The SoFE may post notice that candidate declarations for a federal election are open, at a date two months or greater before the earliest possible commencement of that election. In this case candidate declarations made before the date of this notice will not be valid."
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« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2011, 09:51:49 am »
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Final vote on amendment 44:6

Aye (2): NC Yankee and shua
Nay (6): AHDuke99, Antonio V, bgwah, fuzzybigfoot, Napoleon and Snowguy716
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (1): Officepark

The amendment is not adopted.
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« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2011, 09:53:03 am »
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Quote from: Amendment 44:8 by Senator shua


2) The following is added to Section 8 as Clause 6: "The SoFE may post notice that candidate declarations for a federal election are open, at a date two months or greater before the earliest possible commencement of that election. In this case candidate declarations made before the date of this notice will not be valid."


How does the sponsor view the amendment?
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« Reply #79 on: July 16, 2011, 02:53:13 pm »
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JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I just love sh**t that has double meanings, even more so when I can use both of them at the same time.
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« Reply #80 on: July 16, 2011, 02:56:30 pm »
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Hostile again!! Enough with the amendments. Tongue
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« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2011, 03:01:04 pm »
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Senators, a vote is now open on Amendment 44:8 by shua, please vote Aye, Nay, or Abstain.
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« Reply #82 on: July 16, 2011, 03:56:26 pm »
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« Reply #83 on: July 16, 2011, 04:17:21 pm »
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« Reply #84 on: July 16, 2011, 04:18:36 pm »
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« Reply #85 on: July 17, 2011, 10:41:23 am »
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« Reply #86 on: July 17, 2011, 07:24:07 pm »
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« Reply #87 on: July 18, 2011, 11:50:38 am »
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I'm a little surprised the sponsor doesn't welcome the opportunity to make this bill workable.
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« Reply #88 on: July 18, 2011, 04:51:20 pm »
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« Reply #89 on: July 18, 2011, 05:36:26 pm »
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Quote from: senator shua on July 18, 2011, 11:50:38 am
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I'm a little surprised the sponsor doesn't welcome the opportunity to make this bill workable.

I don't think your amendments are necessary...
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« Reply #90 on: July 19, 2011, 01:55:59 am »
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Quote from: bgwah on July 18, 2011, 05:36:26 pm
Quote from: senator shua on July 18, 2011, 11:50:38 am
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I'm a little surprised the sponsor doesn't welcome the opportunity to make this bill workable.

I don't think your amendments are necessary...

then how are these issues adressed?
Quote from: senator shua on July 07, 2011, 11:41:06 pm

4) if the election administrator allows someone on the ballot who declared more than two months prior, can they be sued?
5)if we are going to do this we at least need to make it absolutely clear to everyone what the start date is to declare for every single race at the regional and federal level.
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- Justice Robert Jackson WV SBE v Barnette

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« Reply #91 on: July 19, 2011, 09:11:46 pm »
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« Reply #92 on: July 19, 2011, 09:15:23 pm »
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I don't see how your amendment fixes addresses those points.
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« Reply #93 on: July 19, 2011, 09:17:09 pm »
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Quote from: Senator North Carolina Yankee on July 15, 2011, 09:53:03 am
Quote from: Amendment 44:8 by Senator shua


2) The following is added to Section 8 as Clause 6: "The SoFE may post notice that candidate declarations for a federal election are open, at a date two months or greater before the earliest possible commencement of that election. In this case candidate declarations made before the date of this notice will not be valid."


How does the sponsor view the amendment?

Just for the record, I consider "Reasonable effort" to mean looking at all declarations since the last election (2 months) and I have no plans to look for declarations before this period. This has been a personal policy of mine since the last time I held this office.
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« Reply #94 on: July 21, 2011, 03:47:58 pm »
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Five days are up

Vote on Amendment 44:8:

Aye (3) Jbrase, NC Yankee and Shua
Nay (4): Antonio, bgwah, fuzzybigfoot, and Snowguy
Abstain (1): Napoleon

Didn't vote (2): AHDuke99 and officepark

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« Reply #95 on: July 21, 2011, 08:53:48 pm »
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Can we have a final vote now? Smiley
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« Reply #96 on: July 22, 2011, 01:25:46 am »
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Indeed! Senators, this bill is now at a final vote. Please vote aye, nay, or abstain.

For your convenience, the text of the final bill is included below.

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Seventh Amendment to the Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act

1) The following is added to Section 8 as Clause 5: "All candidate declarations for elected office must be made in the Candidate Declaration Thread (defined as topic 40247.0) to be considered official. Should the existing thread ever be locked or deleted, it shall be the responsibility of the Secretary of Federal Elections to create a new thread and the Moderator General to sticky it."
2) The following is added to Section 8 as Clause 6: "A candidate may not declare for an office more than two months before the earliest possible commencement of the election."
3) The following is added to Section 8 as Clause 7: "Candidacy declarations for a regional or district Senate seat shall only be considered valid if the candidate is registered to vote within the region or district in which he or she is running."
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« Reply #97 on: July 22, 2011, 01:27:02 am »
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« Reply #98 on: July 22, 2011, 01:29:26 am »
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Quote from: bgwah on April 20, 2013, 12:46:53 am
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« Reply #99 on: July 22, 2011, 07:57:51 am »
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Truer today than it was yesterday.


"A good portion of this country has created an alternate universe. I call this place were these folks live Bullsh*t Mountain. The denizens of Bullsh*t Mountain believe many things: they believe that a Kenyan Muslim President has fundamentally changed the relationship between government and the people of this country."

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