Will the Homosexual Agenda become an important issue in 2012?

[CJK]

New York's recent legalization of homosexual "marriage" has made me wonder whether or not it will become an important issue in 2012.

I hope it does. The homosexual agenda is just as big a threat to this country as the economy, health care, unemployment, the wars, and the budget deficit. In some ways, it actually is worse because it strikes at our core values.

I will support any candidate who stands up to the homosexual agenda the most. Anyone who doesn't just isn't serious.

[Stranger in a strange land]

The tide of history is turning against homophobia and intolerance. Every year the percentage of Americans who support marriage equality increases. Keep it up and in 20 years you'll look like these guys:


And anyway, it probably won't be a major issue in 2012: gay-bashing isn't anywhere near the vote-getter it used to be, even in very conservative states.

[DrScholl]

This is clearly what the Republican Party's biggest problem is, the wrong priorities.

[Middle-aged Europe]

New York's recent legalization of homosexual "marriage" has made me wonder whether or not it will become an important issue in 2012.

I hope it does. The homosexual agenda is just as big a threat to this country as the economy, health care, unemployment, the wars, and the budget deficit. In some ways, it actually is worse because it strikes at our core values.

I will support any candidate who stands up to the homosexual agenda the most. Anyone who doesn't just isn't serious.

Fail.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Yes, if the Republicans run on opposition to gay marriage rather than on the economy, it would certainly turn out well for them.

[courts]

2/10. You got some people to buy into it, but come on dude.

[milhouse24]

I don't really see gay marriage as a big issue either way.  Sure there are die hard straight liberals that want gay marriage, but its just not a strong demographic group.  I don't think the rest of the straight citizens care at all, and some people are just puzzled by what exactly does "gay marriage' entail legally since couples can live together anyways.  However, the more marriages, the less spousal support ex-husbands have to pay, lol!

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

It will be mentioned, but it's not nearly as important as jobs, the deficit, Afghanistan, etc.

[RogueBeaver]

No, it's "The Economy, Stupid" all over again.

[CJK]

The Homosexual Agenda is indeed unpopular as shown by recent votes in liberal California and Maine. So yes, Republicans can get traction out of this issue if they want to.

Unfortunately, Republicans seem too cowed by the Agenda to exploit this.

If this issue is not that important, why is it always given prominent attention way out of proportion to it's alleged unimportance by both the right and the left?

And by the Agenda I mean not only the specific movement for legalizing homosexual marriage but the entire movement to mandate societal tolerance and approval for homosexuality, of which marriage is just one stepping stone.

Anyone who thinks this is just about whether or not the miniscule proportion of people who currently consider themselves as gay can marry is kidding themselves. This is about the never-ending liberal/leftist desire to destroy the basic foundations of Western Civilization, and on that basis I do regard it as important as the other issues. 

[courts]

Are you going to buy yourself a chalk board too? That would be sorta cute.

[Mopsus]

Right... the foundations of Western Civilization... because it's not like homosexuality existed, and was accepted, in ancient Rome and classical Greece or anything.

[Insula Dei]

Right... the foundations of Western Civilization... because it's not like homosexuality existed, and was accepted, in ancient Rome and classical Greece or anything.

Well, Homosexuality was far from accepted in the Ancient World. We should not confuse the practice of efebophilia, which was pretty standard, with the practice of homosexuality, as it exists today. The Ancients would have been shocked and disgusted by, say, two men in their thirties having a sexual relation, they would think it pretty normal for a man in his fifties to toy around with a teen boy.

[specific_name]

Talk about blaming the boogeyman. The various problems of the West are of the West's own creation. Even the social dislocation that has led to the breakdown of the traditional family structure is just a byproduct of the capitalist system. Industrialization, urbanization and later - suburbanization and the rise of the service economy have logically led to the place we now inhabit. Social conservatives make it sound like some shadowy cabal is plotting the downfall of all that is good and right; rather than chalking the changes up to obvious rearrangement of the social structure. Not every trend or change requires some evil group with an Agenda (capitalized).

This also has no real relevance for 2012. Gay marriage will not decide this election.

[Mopsus]

Right... the foundations of Western Civilization... because it's not like homosexuality existed, and was accepted, in ancient Rome and classical Greece or anything.

Well, Homosexuality was far from accepted in the Ancient World. We should not confuse the practice of efebophilia, which was pretty standard, with the practice of homosexuality, as it exists today. The Ancients would have been shocked and disgusted by, say, two men in their thirties having a sexual relation, they would think it pretty normal for a man in his fifties to toy around with a teen boy.

I don't know about that. From what I've read, they just expected whoever was the 'dominant' sexual partner to assume the 'dominant' social role, and whoever was the 'submissive' sexual partner to assume the 'submissive' social role.

[Paul Kemp]

I certainly hope the GOP tries to make it the main issue.

[angus]

New York's recent legalization of homosexual "marriage" has made me wonder whether or not it will become an important issue in 2012.

I hope it does. The homosexual agenda is just as big a threat to this country as the economy, health care, unemployment, the wars, and the budget deficit. In some ways, it actually is worse because it strikes at our core values.

I will support any candidate who stands up to the homosexual agenda the most. Anyone who doesn't just isn't serious.

Damn homos. 

I think it'll be here in Iowa.  And some other places.  New York state for example.  Not sure about nationally.  I don't hear as much about it as last time.  Unemployment and debt are bigger issues than before, and there are only so many hours in the day. 

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I'm sure the Democrats would love that. Let the GOP candidate rage on gays as their number one issue while Obama focuses his campaign on the economy and jobs

[Reluctant Republican]

The Homosexual Agenda does need to be stopped. Those people like Madonna for heavens sake. She's not been worth listening to since the Material Girl days.

Also, hard to get excited about the gays when you've lost your job and have to worry about healthcare.

[The Mikado]

Please do make this the centerpiece of the GOP platform.  Please, please do.  This isn't 2004 anymore.

Honestly, I don't think any of the major GOP candidates with the possible exception of Bachmann will even raise this issue, and will instead join with the President in pretending the issue doesn't exist (with occasional references to "I think gay marriage should be illegal, marriage is between a man and a woman," and then dropping it.)

Frankly, if the GOP wants a social issue, it's better off sticking to abortion, an issue that is not and will never go away, than gay marriage, a ship that's very much sailing.

[Middle-aged Europe]

I suppose the two "yes" votes in the poll were joke votes?

[CJK]

Talk about blaming the boogeyman. The various problems of the West are of the West's own creation. Even the social dislocation that has led to the breakdown of the traditional family structure is just a byproduct of the capitalist system. Industrialization, urbanization and later - suburbanization and the rise of the service economy have logically led to the place we now inhabit. Social conservatives make it sound like some shadowy cabal is plotting the downfall of all that is good and right; rather than chalking the changes up to obvious rearrangement of the social structure. Not every trend or change requires some evil group with an Agenda (capitalized).

This also has no real relevance for 2012. Gay marriage will not decide this election.

So the capitalist system caused both rising divorce rates/out of wedlock births and the homosexual agenda? How is that not totally absurd?

There has been a social agenda since the 1960s that not only was not caused by capitalism but on the contrary by the people most opposed to it.

[MJM58]

Talk about blaming the boogeyman. The various problems of the West are of the West's own creation. Even the social dislocation that has led to the breakdown of the traditional family structure is just a byproduct of the capitalist system. Industrialization, urbanization and later - suburbanization and the rise of the service economy have logically led to the place we now inhabit. Social conservatives make it sound like some shadowy cabal is plotting the downfall of all that is good and right; rather than chalking the changes up to obvious rearrangement of the social structure. Not every trend or change requires some evil group with an Agenda (capitalized).

This also has no real relevance for 2012. Gay marriage will not decide this election.

So the capitalist system caused both rising divorce rates/out of wedlock births and the homosexual agenda? How is that not totally absurd?

There has been a social agenda since the 1960s that not only was not caused by capitalism but on the contrary by the people most opposed to it.

I think what generic means is that capitalism's emphasis on hard work and earning money has caused the traditional family structure to deteriorate, in that now the woman in the family has to work along with the man, whereas before it was only the man who had to work.

Anyway, the Democrats and the GOP are obviously going to focus on the economy in the 2012 election, unless it miraculously gets better before Election Day, which it won't.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

With this it just did. We need to take it out of federal play like Ron Paul does.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

With this it just did. We need to take it out of federal play like Ron Paul does.

How does Ron Paul fell about the homosexual agenda?