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« on: June 26, 2011, 08:35:15 PM »

His official position makes no sense whatsoever. It is held by basically no one besides politicians. He is basically saying he opposes gay marriage but will do absolutely nothing to oppose it in reality(remember he wants to repeal DOMA and spoke out against Prop 8.) He had kind words about the New York vote. Does anyone believe that if he was a New York State Senator he would've voted against it?
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2011, 08:48:59 PM »

Wow, this is the first time I can remember you saying anything negative about him.

It's not negative, because him opposing gay marriage sincerely would be far worse.
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2011, 09:02:44 PM »

Ask benconstine, he used to be the primary advocate of that position here. No clue if he still adheres to it, he made a comment that sort of implies he's moved away.
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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2011, 12:08:33 AM »

I think he does, to be honest. I think he realizes that marriage is an institution that has been around for a long, long time, and that homosexual rights are also very important, but that gay marriage in and of itself is a temporary fad. Civil Unions, however, are a different story.

And here's a good example of what I'm talking about as to why I'd rather have someone I support be a liar than buy into the mind-numbingly idiotic "logic" on display in this post.
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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2011, 01:39:49 AM »

I'm actually pretty proud of the fact that not only does Mark Dayton support it, he always had and did when he was in the Senate before it was "cool" to do so.
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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2011, 02:17:04 AM »

Yes he does. The only reason Obama can't openly admit he dislikes gay people and opposes it, is because he knows they wouldn't turn out for 2012.

Obama is probably more anti-gay in practice and in personal opinions than all of the potential 2012 GOP candidates besides Santorum.

That's a far bigger assumption than assuming that he really doesn't oppose it.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2011, 10:03:07 PM »

Here's a pretty good article which explains just how illogical his "official" position is: http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/08/prop_8_ruling_reminds_everyone.html

If I believed he sincerely held it, I would probably be bothered. But as it is it just proves that there is no possible way he could hold such a position, as basically no one in existence does besides politicians.
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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2012, 10:51:46 AM »

Well I think the answer now is pretty obvious.
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