Statement from the Union Party Chairman on the Deletion of Hermit
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Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon
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« on: December 10, 2004, 10:03:14 PM »
« edited: December 10, 2004, 10:07:35 PM by htmldon »

Friends,

I am overwhelmed with grief that our candidate for Senate, Hermit, has deleted himself from the forum.   We have missed out on the service of a truly great Atlasian and for that we are truly sorry.  It is also an especially sad moment for our Party as we have lost our brightest hope for elected office in this early moment in our Party's history.

Fortunately, there is another candidate in this race that is equipped to provide the same caliber of leadership that Hermit would have offered.  That candidate is WMS, and I only regret voting so early so that I could not have made him my first preference.

I do want to thank Reaganfan, Dubya, and others for making Hermit their first and second preferences.  Your confidence and loyalty is greatly appreciated.
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« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2004, 10:07:03 PM »

While I do not wish to involve myself in your party's internal affairs, I am curious as to why you would support WMS when you seemed to strongly object to Nation in his Presidential candidacy. Nation and WMS have nearly the same political compass scores, and are (or were at the time, Nation has since moved slightly left) both in the same quadrant (just barely in the Populist quadrant). Was there perhaps something other than mere issue positions that led you to object to Nation?

I guess I'm just curious.
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« Reply #2 on: December 10, 2004, 10:08:26 PM »

There's a very simple explanation to this, and it doesn't take too many words to spit it out: the political compass sucks.
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« Reply #3 on: December 10, 2004, 10:09:32 PM »

There's a very simple explanation to this, and it doesn't take too many words to spit it out: the political compass sucks.

Perhaps, but if I'm not mistaken, Nation's populism was one of the reasons for Htmldon's objections to him, and the Compass, despite its flaws, has often been used by the UAC and other parties as a basic measuring stick of ideology.
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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2004, 10:15:55 PM »

Huh?  I didn't "strongly object" to Nation's candidacy and I made him my second preference.

I wasn't thrilled with the circumstances of the election, but that's life.

While I do not wish to involve myself in your party's internal affairs, I am curious as to why you would support WMS when you seemed to strongly object to Nation in his Presidential candidacy. Nation and WMS have nearly the same political compass scores, and are (or were at the time, Nation has since moved slightly left) both in the same quadrant (just barely in the Populist quadrant). Was there perhaps something other than mere issue positions that led you to object to Nation?

I guess I'm just curious.
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« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2004, 11:55:57 PM »

I thought Don's objection to Nation was that Don was on the bottom of the opposing Presidential ticket.
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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2004, 06:08:05 AM »

What happens to my vote?
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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2004, 06:48:24 AM »

One of two things:
1.  It will count for Hermit, and if he wins, he will not be able to serve, and a special election will be held.
2.  Because Hermit is not a user, he cannot recieve votes and all his votes will be treated as if they were for an imaginary candidate
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2004, 02:34:44 PM »

Please do not refer to me as "on the bottom" of Hughento. Smiley

I thought Don's objection to Nation was that Don was on the bottom of the opposing Presidential ticket.
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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2004, 02:35:46 PM »

One of two things:
1. It will count for Hermit, and if he wins, he will not be able to serve, and a special election will be held.
2. Because Hermit is not a user, he cannot recieve votes and all his votes will be treated as if they were for an imaginary candidate

I would support option 2. His votes should automatically default to the 2nd preference.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2004, 07:13:59 PM »

Friends,

I am overwhelmed with grief that our candidate for Senate, Hermit, has deleted himself from the forum.   We have missed out on the service of a truly great Atlasian and for that we are truly sorry.  It is also an especially sad moment for our Party as we have lost our brightest hope for elected office in this early moment in our Party's history.

Fortunately, there is another candidate in this race that is equipped to provide the same caliber of leadership that Hermit would have offered.  That candidate is WMS, and I only regret voting so early so that I could not have made him my first preference.

I do want to thank Reaganfan, Dubya, and others for making Hermit their first and second preferences.  Your confidence and loyalty is greatly appreciated.

I would like to thank the Constitutional Union Party and its founder, htmldon, for their words of support! I was sorry to see Hermit vanish, and support any investigation into the reason for it.
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« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2004, 08:02:18 PM »

Please do not refer to me as "on the bottom" of Hughento. Smiley

I thought Don's objection to Nation was that Don was on the bottom of the opposing Presidential ticket.

Good times, thems was.
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« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2004, 10:39:28 AM »

One of two things:
1. It will count for Hermit, and if he wins, he will not be able to serve, and a special election will be held.
2. Because Hermit is not a user, he cannot recieve votes and all his votes will be treated as if they were for an imaginary candidate

I would support option 2. His votes should automatically default to the 2nd preference.
There is established precedent on the course to follow.
A vote by Ernest in another SE Senate race IIRC.
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« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2004, 11:01:14 AM »

Votes for Hermit count as votes for Hermit.  If Hermit is elected, he is unable to serve, and a special election must be held.
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