Amendment Tracker and Analysis Extravanganza

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Welcome! Quite a few amendments Atlasians are voting on these days, so let's see how they've been faring.
First up - the Regional Senators Clarification Amendment, meant to ensure exactly one regional senator for each region. The vote finished up a few days ago.  The amendment passed 4 of 5 regions - but just barely, as the Pacific tied, and the Midwest passed it with a margin of just one vote.

Pacific:       3 Aye, 3 Nay -  TIE
Midwest:    6 Aye, 5 Nay
Northeast:  7 Aye, 4 Nay
IDS:        11 Aye, 1 Nay
Mideast:  13 Aye, 1 Nay

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Map by Region: Regional Senators Clarification Amendment

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Very nice, shua. Much appreciated!

You're very welcome. Glad you like it.

     The regional breakdown is sort of interesting. It would have been funny if the Fair Amendment Procedure Amendment had been passed properly & then first used to pass an amendment favored by the more right-wing regions.

Well, my Amendment was never intended to be a fix for the left. Of course if the Clarification Amendment failed in PA and MW despite receiving 2/3rds of the votes, it would further prove my point.

     Perhaps so, but reducing the difficulty of passing amendments has always been something that was more popular on the left than on the right, possibly due to the number of left-wing amendments that have failed narrowly over the years. That's why I said it would be funny if an amendment passed because of it while failing in the two regions controlled by the left.

It would still be a victory for democracy, though.

My sense has been the left/right split over this issue is really a split between national versus regional democracy.

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Reduction of Registration Requirements Amendment

The Senate had a long and contentious debate on this amendment, with lots of different proposals being discussed. In the end the "50:14" formula, which involved only a modest reduction in requirements, passed the Senate and then went on to pass the regions. Only in the Northeast was there less than a 2/3 vote in favor.


Northeast  6 Aye, 3 Nay, 1 Abstain
IDS          8  Aye, 2 Nay, 1 Abstain
Pacific       6 Aye,  1 Nay
Mideast     7  Aye, 1 Nay
Midwest  10 Aye, 0 Nay, 1 Abstain

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Hey you have the Midwest twice

fixed.

No More Holiday Elections Amendment (ongoing)

Pacific (closed)                5 Aye, 0 Nay, 1 Abstain
Midwest (closed)               5 Aye, 3 Nay, 1 Abstain
Mideast (closed)               6 Aye, 1 Nay, 2 Abstain
IDS (closed)                     0 Aye, 4 Nay, 1 Abstain
Northeast (closes Tue. PM) 1 Aye, 7 Nay

This one looks to be pretty close in terms of total votes, and will only pass in 3 of 5 regions barring a last minute wave of support. Maybe people aren't as upset about the low turnout during the Easter weekend election as it seemed.

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The No More Holiday Elections Amendment won in the Pacific, Mideast, and Midwest, but lost in the Northeast and IDS.  Though there was no clear regional or ideological issue, the vote was highly polarized by region.

Pacific                 5 Aye, 0 Nay, 1 Abstain
Mideast               6 Aye, 1 Nay, 2 Abstain
Midwest              5 Aye, 3 Nay, 1 Abstain
IDS                    0 Aye, 4 Nay, 1 Abstain
Northeast           1 Aye, 7 Nay

Total                  17 Aye, 15 Nay, 5 Abstain

vote by region (including abstaining votes in figuring percentages)

vote by region (excluding abstaining votes)

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OK is in the MW

indeed it is.

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Fair Amending Procedure Amedment (redux)
We're voting on this again? yeah, some procedural snafu made the last time we voted on this not quite official. That problem has since been corrected (we think). The vote has closed already in the Midwest and IDS, but elsewhere the vote continues until the 12th. So far, it's failing it's own test - getting nowhere near 2/3 of the transregional vote.

Midwest (closed)  3 Aye - 1 Nay
IDS (closed)        1 Aye - 5 Nay - 1 abstain
Pacific                 5 Aye - 2 Nay
Northeast            6 Aye - 5 Nay
Mideast               0 Aye - 8 Nay

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Fair Amending Procedure Amendment (final result)

Ironically, this amendment meant to promote a more democratic and less regional process gained the vote of the majority of the regions at 3-2, but lost the popular vote by that same ratio. Not having won four out of five regions, it fails regardless.

Midwest        3 Aye  1 Nay
Pacific           5 Aye  2 Nay 
Northeast      7 Aye  6 Nay
IDS              1 Aye  5 Nay   1 Abstain
Mideast        0 Aye  10 Nay

Total            16 Aye    24 Nay  1 Abstain

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The Senate Vacancy Regional Flexibility Amendment passed back in the end of July.

We'd be interested to know : have any regions taken an opportunity since then to allow them to fill a Senate vacancy by democratic or some other means beside gubernatorial appointment?

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Pacific did.  Bgwah wrote it.

I wrote the amendment, but bgwah proposed a change to it that I accepted as friendly.
But yes, it actually passed all regions unanimously.

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Pacific did.  Bgwah wrote it.

I wrote the amendment, but bgwah proposed a change to it that I accepted as friendly.
But yes, it actually passed all regions unanimously.

No I meant that he wrote the Pacific statute that allowed for an election in the event of a vacancy and that it passed.  There are some triggers as to time before the next election that determine if it is an election or appointment, but we have already passed a statute in light of the amendment.  Sorry, I should have been more clear.

Oh right, for some reason I assumed you were responding to ilikeverin's post.
I'd be interested in seeing the statute.

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The "Another Simultaneous Elections Amendment" passed in all 5 regions.

IDS            8 Aye
Pacific        8 Aye
Mideast      13 Aye  1 Nay
Northeast   9 Aye    1 Nay   
Midwest     4 Aye    1 Nay

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Anyone else thinking the Senate is trying too hard to please everybody with these amendments and ends up pleasing very few?

I don't know if they're trying to please everybody or just the maximum number of Senators.
Most of the time there's no attempt to get public opinion or input before an amendment is passed to the regions. 

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current tally (Anti-Conscription Amendment)

vote ending Thursday
IDS           3 Aye  2 Nay
Northeast   1 Aye  8 Nay  2 abstain
Midwest               4 Nay

vote ending Saturday
Pacific      2 Aye  1 Nay

vote ending Sunday
Mideast    1 Aye   4 Nay

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LOL
and yet the Defence caucus voted against opposing this

I think you need to check with your caucus about whether that's really what they thought they were voting on.
but let's not get into that here.

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I'm beginning to think, some of these amendments are so complicated, maybe we ought to allow people to change their votes for the duration, since people may find they misunderstood it when they first voted.

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Anti-Conscription Amendment
(fails in 3 of 5 regions; not adopted)

                  YEA      NAY      ABSTAIN
IDS               4          1
PACIFIC         4          3
NORTHEAST   1          8         2
MIDEAST       1          8*      
MIDWEST                  5

*unofficial count; ballot disputed. official count=7 nay votes.

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Cabinet Flexibility Amendment
                AYE     NAY     Abstain
Mideast        5        8
Midwest       2        1
Pacific          4        2
Northeast    12       2
IDS              4        0

Total           27      13   

Map (by Regions)

There was a lot of voting after the 7-day period in the Midwest (not counted here).
This was one of the closer amendment votes we've had recently, in terms of the votes needed in any region to have made it gone the other way. Unlike the case in most recent amendments, there were no abstaining votes in any region.

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I'm tempted to make the argument that my vote should've counted in the Midwest based on the argument Bacon King once used to justify why he couldn't be removed from office after the requisite period of inactivity and the arguments over "_ days" vs "_ hours" but this Amendment isn't worth it.

The problem is, I don't think there is an official start or end to the day in Atlasia.

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The National Initiative Amendment passed in 4 regions with a very large national majority.  The measure failed in the Northeast with a tie in the vote, though there was a legal question raised about the validity of a vote that had been changed after a couple days.  The Northeast had twice as many Nay votes than all other regions combined.

                 Aye     Nay
Midwest       10(100%)      0
IDS               8 (100%)     0
Mideast        12 (92%)       1
Pacific            5 (71%)       2
Northwest      6 (50%)      6 (50%) 

TOTAL           41 (82%)     9 (18%)                   

Map (by Regions)

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Ratification Regionalization Amendment

                             
polls closing Thursday:
Pacific        1  Aye     6 Nay
IDS            6 Aye      3 Nay
Midwest      4 Aye
polls closing Sunday:
Mideast       3 Aye     8 Nay 

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Ratification Regionalization Amendment

                             
polls closing Thursday:
Pacific        1  Aye     6 Nay
IDS            6 Aye      3 Nay
Midwest      4 Aye
polls closing Sunday:
Mideast       3 Aye     8 Nay 

No figures from the Northeast? 

The booth wasn't open yet when I made the post.