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was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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It certainly looked that way on September 12, 2001...
But throw in all of ME, CT, NY, IL, and CA
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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No, the country was far too polarized.
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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If the labor market was better, I could envision a Bush +8 or Bush +9 type scenario in 2004.
See:
http://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=134088.msg2862318#msg2862318
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Hotblack Desiato
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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Either remove 9/11 from the equation or have him handle it better and you'd get that.
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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Not without changing real-life events.
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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If Bin Laden had been captured right before the election, I can see this result occurring.
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Delaware going Republican? No.
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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maybe if no Iraq War.
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Quote from: senator shua on July 15, 2011, 08:55:16 am
maybe if no Iraq War.
Bush was supported for the Iraq War, at this time.
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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Quote from: Scott on July 15, 2011, 02:51:48 pm
Quote from: senator shua on July 15, 2011, 08:55:16 am
maybe if no Iraq War.
Bush was supported for the Iraq War, at this time.
by Fall 2004 public opinion was about evenly split, with it being more of a liability than an advantage in North New England, Pacific Northwest, and probably MN and WI.
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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With a bin Laden capture and an even worse Democratic campaign (possibly with a different nominee), Bush could have achieved this result.
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Re: was this map ever a realistic possiblity for bush in 2004
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Quote from: Scott on July 15, 2011, 05:43:16 am
Delaware going Republican? No.
Why not? In 2004 there was no Joe Biden on the ticket and Bush lost the state by only 7 points (53-46), just like New Jersey.
Of course, if you're saying Bush had a lower ceiling in Delaware....
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