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« on: July 09, 2011, 11:30:14 am »
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2011, 11:32:50 am »
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2011, 12:08:05 pm »
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Depends what you mean by "honest". Clinton was a liar, but he didn't fool the electorate with fake campaign promises (well, he did far less than what he said it would, but we can't say he didn't try). Obama hasn't done anything that leads to think he's dishonest, even though like every politician he can't always say what he thinks.

The most outstandingly honest president was probably Carter.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2011, 12:43:43 pm »
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Washington was the first. Jefferson was the 2nd, and Cleveland was the last.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2011, 12:47:17 pm »
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The most outstandingly honest president was probably Carter.

Given how poor a president Carter was, that suggests that honesty is overrated.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2011, 12:52:15 pm »
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2011, 01:04:56 pm »
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Washington was the first. Jefferson was the 2nd, and Cleveland was the last.
Ford? Harrison? Lincoln? Coolidge?
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2011, 01:18:16 pm »
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Washington was the first. Jefferson was the 2nd, and Cleveland was the last.
Ford? Harrison? Lincoln? Coolidge?

Ford is kind of iffy. He pardoned Nixon, and that killed him. Harrison? Which one? Lincoln was a terrible President (a good man). And I just plain forgot Coolidge.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2011, 01:26:23 pm »
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Ford? Harrison?

It would have been cool if you had put Harrison before Ford. Wink
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2011, 03:50:02 pm »
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2011, 03:53:06 pm »
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Carter, of course.

Before him the best examples would be probably Chester Arthur (despite his pre-presidential past), Gerald Ford, Grover Cleveland, Calvin Coolidge (while I disagree with the two policies, they had a personal integrity).

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2011, 05:57:01 pm »
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Carter. Obama isn't too bad, but his dishonesty is less lying and more being a pussy and giving up his principles.
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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2011, 07:52:29 pm »
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Washington was the first. Jefferson was the 2nd, and Cleveland was the last.
Ford? Harrison? Lincoln? Coolidge?

Ford is kind of iffy. He pardoned Nixon, and that killed him. Harrison? Which one? Lincoln was a terrible President (a good man). And I just plain forgot Coolidge.
Ben Harrison. He and Cleveland ran the cleanest election in American history.
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2011, 08:11:44 pm »
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Washington was the first. Jefferson was the 2nd, and Cleveland was the last.
Ford? Harrison? Lincoln? Coolidge?

 Lincoln was a terrible President (a good man).

HE WON THE FREAKING CIVIL WAR.
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HE WON THE FREAKING CIVIL WAR.

Actually it was the poor immigrants he enslaved by the million who ended up out-slaughtering their countrymen.
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2011, 08:42:27 pm »
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Washington was the first. Jefferson was the 2nd, and Cleveland was the last.
Ford? Harrison? Lincoln? Coolidge?

 Lincoln was a terrible President (a good man).

HE WON THE FREAKING CIVIL WAR.

He was still a dishonest jerk.

For the question, I would agree with Jimmy Carter.
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« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2011, 12:12:10 am »
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Sometimes I wonder if we ever had an honest president. Maybe William Henry Harrison since he may not have had a chance to lie about anything.
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« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2011, 08:06:02 am »
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The most outstandingly honest president was probably Carter.

Given how poor a president Carter was, that suggests that honesty is overrated.
People want the President to lie to them.
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« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2011, 08:19:27 am »
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« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2011, 08:48:08 am »
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Actually, Carter seems not to have been as honest (at least on a personal level) as people thought. In some ways he was a hypocrite. Apparently he declared the White House would be "dry" under him, yet he and Rosalynn had cocktails every night.  He showed himself moving what appeared to be a heavy suitcase, yet the suitcase was empty.
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« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2011, 10:47:47 am »

Jerry Ford.  But come to think of it, I don't recall Dubya affirmatively lying about anything.  He just didn't turn in his homework assignments on a very regular basis is all.
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