Obama to GOP: "I’m not going to take money from old people and screw students."

[Lief 🗽]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/07/11/debt-crisis-deepens-as-eric-cantor-gop-propose-new-cuts.html

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What kind of crazy bizzaro land world do we live in when one of our two major parties think it's sensible public policy to bankrupt students and make it harder for them to attend college and throw millions of seniors back into poverty, all to fund tax cuts for the super rich in an economy with the highest rates of inequality since the 1920s?! Thankfully, at least our president is still an adult.

[Хahar 🤔]

Nah, he'll give in soon.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Nah, he'll give in soon.

That's certainly been his pattern, as most of hard lefties here have said on other issues........his rhetoric is refreshingly ball busting though.

[Napoleon]

Nah, he'll give in soon.

And when he loses, the Republicans will not cave on anything at all.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Seriously guys, if you ask Cantor why he entered public service, will he answer "to help other people" while keeping a straight face?

[bullmoose88]

Seriously guys, if you ask Cantor why he entered public service, will he answer "to help other people" while keeping a straight face?

What's your definition of "other people?"

[t_host1]

Nah, he'll give in soon.

hold the phone.... the hub bub around here is,

 Obama says he'll pay himself, his czar's and michells expense account before old people and their health care,
 now within the last hour or so - reports are McConnell has caved - he will give Obama 3 trips to the cash window to use as he pleases for 500B on a 2/3's majority vote with no cuts or tax increases required.

 gold spikes

[Holmes]

Seriously guys, if you ask Cantor why he entered public service, will he answer "to help other people" while keeping a straight face?

What's your definition of "other people?"

Cantor's is "Isreal", certainly.

[Torie]

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Should not the headline be "I'm not going to take money from old people and screw students unless I can raise their taxes too?"  Obama reminds me of a bit of hard up prostitute here:  I will screw anyone as long as I raise enough revenue. 

Yes, before you ask, this whole process is getting me rather irritable and dyspeptic.

[Badger]

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Should not the headline be "I'm not going to take money from old people and screw students unless I can raise their taxes too?"  Obama reminds me of a bit of hard up prostitute here:  I will screw anyone as long as I raise enough revenue. 

Yes, before you ask, this whole process is getting me rather irritable and dyspeptic.

Now, now grandpa.

But seriously, when has Obama ever proposed raising taxes on people anywhere near middle class? He gets no credit for cutting taxes thus far.

[opebo]

Should not the headline be "I'm not going to take money from old people and screw students unless I can raise their taxes too?"  Obama reminds me of a bit of hard up prostitute here:  I will screw anyone as long as I raise enough revenue. 

Yes, before you ask, this whole process is getting me rather irritable and dyspeptic.

Obviously the old people and students don't pay taxes - the taxes come from the rich - so it Obama wouldn't be raising 'their' taxes.  Just yours.

[Torie]

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Should not the headline be "I'm not going to take money from old people and screw students unless I can raise their taxes too?"  Obama reminds me of a bit of hard up prostitute here:  I will screw anyone as long as I raise enough revenue. 

Yes, before you ask, this whole process is getting me rather irritable and dyspeptic.

Now, now grandpa.

But seriously, when has Obama ever proposed raising taxes on people anywhere near middle class? He gets no credit for cutting taxes thus far.

I just wanted to kick Obama in the nuts, and let me tell you, it felt good doing it!  So don't deflect me with noisome little faclets that get in the way of my badly needed catharsis. Thanks! 

Still, even if it is about raising taxes on "the rich," and of course that hardly squares the circle by any means, it sounds odd that if Obama gets more revenue, then he feels morally or something empowered to  drop the hammer on students and the olds per his own words. What does one have to do with the other?  And of course some money should be taken from some old people, but I digress. And I won't even touch the business about all the kids in college who should not be there, and how government money has inflated tuitions through the roof in something almost akin to a scam. I don't want to seem that mean spirited this afternoon. Perhaps tomorrow I will go for the throat.

[opebo]

...it sounds odd that if Obama gets more revenue, then he feels morally or something empowered to  drop the hammer on students and the olds per his own words. What does one have to do with the other?

Obviously the money that you are privileged to receive is stolen from students, olds, poors.

Its either golden toilet bowls for you, or their gruel and garrets.  Of course we know who will win, and who always wins, but try not to pretend to be 'put upon'.  It must be so 'annoying' that anyone would dare question your privilege!

[memphis]

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Should not the headline be "I'm not going to take money from old people and screw students unless I can raise their taxes too?"  Obama reminds me of a bit of hard up prostitute here:  I will screw anyone as long as I raise enough revenue. 

Yes, before you ask, this whole process is getting me rather irritable and dyspeptic.

Now, now grandpa.

But seriously, when has Obama ever proposed raising taxes on people anywhere near middle class? He gets no credit for cutting taxes thus far.

I just wanted to kick Obama in the nuts, and let me tell you, it felt good doing it!  So don't deflect me with noisome little faclets that get in the way of my badly needed catharsis. Thanks! 

Still, even if it is about raising taxes on "the rich," and of course that hardly squares the circle by any means, it sounds odd that if Obama gets more revenue, then he feels morally or something empowered to  drop the hammer on students and the olds per his own words. What does one have to do with the other?  And of course some money should be taken from some old people, but I digress. And I won't even touch the business about all the kids in college who should not be there, and how government money has inflated tuitions through the roof in something almost akin to a scam. I don't want to seem that mean spirited this afternoon. Perhaps tomorrow I will go for the throat.

What he's saying is that he's 100% given in the moral panic over the deficit. Never mind that none of these rabidly anti-deficit Republicans cared one iota when Reagan, Bush I, or Bush Jr were at the helm. They've all been magically converted to deficit hawks since Obama's election, and, like any good convert, they believe with all the soul and all their strength and all their might. Obama has seen the error of his ways too and is playing along. Never mind that it makes no sense to lay off hundreds of thousands of gov't workers or cut aid to the states during an unemployment crisis. What Obama is saying is that if we're going to crush the poor, disabled, and elderly, and the "circle is so hard to square" as you're so wont to remind us frequently, it's only fair to ask for some sacrifice from those who already pull most of the levers in this country.

[Free Palestine]

Problem is, college students typically don't vote, so sh**t like this happens.  Unless some politician pretends to be young and hip and has t-shirts made.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Problem is, college students typically don't vote, so sh**t like this happens.  Unless some politician pretends to be young and hip and has t-shirts made.

Sure college students vote.  Turnout at my university was like 65%.. and that's all guys.  The women's university was much higher.

It's college-aged people that don't vote as a whole.  People in their late teens/early 20s but not in college don't vote.

[King]

Seriously guys, if you ask Cantor why he entered public service, will he answer "to help other people" while keeping a straight face?

I take offense, px.  The friends Cantor has drinks with every night after work are certainly qualified as "other people."

[specific_name]

What a wonderful idea Cantor has here, as if the student debt wasn't crushing enough in this environment...let's see if we can ruin even more people's credit, lower their lifetime earnings and start them off on the worst foot possible. I'm sure that will make us competitive.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

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Should not the headline be "I'm not going to take money from old people and screw students unless I can raise their taxes too?"  Obama reminds me of a bit of hard up prostitute here:  I will screw anyone as long as I raise enough revenue. 

Yes, before you ask, this whole process is getting me rather irritable and dyspeptic.

More like "I'm not going to take money from old people and screw students unless I can raise taxes on millionaires as well."

[Landslide Lyndon]

Seriously guys, if you ask Cantor why he entered public service, will he answer "to help other people" while keeping a straight face?

I take offense, px.  The friends Cantor has drinks with every night after work are certainly qualified as "other people."

My apologies your majesty. I never intended to offend you.

Indeed, hedge fund managers, oil magnates and Rupert Murdoch, all qualify as "other people".

[exopolitician]

Cantor has lost all relevance in these talks. Get him out of there, maybe something will actually be resolved.

[NVGonzalez]

Cantor could care less what happens. He wins money if the U.S. defaults.

[courts]

Cantor could care less what happens. He wins money if the U.S. defaults.

[Joe Republic]

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lol

[Landslide Lyndon]

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lol

After the meeting did he spoke to the phone with Bibi about how Big Bad Obama hates teh Jews?