Gerrymandering Canada

[Hatman 🍁]

Now with the poll by poll maps out, it should be relatively easy to make maps that would help certain parties win seats.

When I saw how well the NDP did in much of Ottawa-Vanier, I set out to gerrymander a 2nd seat for the NDP in Ottawa:



Both seats have between 105,000 and 110,000 which is ideal.

I was fooling around with Toronto last night, and I might be able to get 14 NDP seats there

Any gerrymander requests?

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'm curious to see how many non-conservative seats can we get gerrymandering Alberta.

[Hatman 🍁]

I'm curious to see how many non-conservative seats can we get gerrymandering Alberta.

I left the current NDP riding (Edmonton-Strathcona) alone, and was able to create a new NDP riding in the city from parts of Edmonton Centre and Edmonton East. That's probably the best I could do.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a89893b55720f76af

Might be too big populationwise, if so, cut the southeast out; same result. NDP seat.

[Hatman 🍁]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a89893b55720f76af

Might be too big populationwise, if so, cut the southeast out; same result. NDP seat.

It's easy to gerrymander an NDP riding into Saskatoon. Try gerrymandering 2 ridings!

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a898a0648711e72eb here's 2 in Regina

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Drawing a single NDP riding in Saskatoon would hardly be gerrymandering...

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Considering as I posted in the other thread, the NDP lost in Saskatoon in 3 of the 4 Saskatoon ridings, and in the other, did well because of the Candidate, I'd say it is.

Regardless:
http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a898b837837bb0c17
Peel region Liberal.

[Hatman 🍁]

Here's my Saskatoon map:



Each riding has about 70,000 which is the provincial average

[Hatman 🍁]

2 NDP seats in Regina. Ralph Goodale would be upset, he'd probably lose in a more ruralized Wascana riding.

[Hash]

How about a Conservative seat on the Montreal Island?

[DL]

One thing that will be very interesting will be what happens in downtown Toronto. Right now because of all the new development and condo construction, Olivia Chow's Trinity-Spadina seat is seriously over-populated and so is Toronto Centre. Its almost certain that a new seat will have to carved out there.

Ideally, I'd like to see Rosedale lopped off and merged with Forest Hill and or Leaside and create a "vote sink" that is all really wealthy NDP dead zones.

You could also easily create another NDP seat on vancouver island.

[Hatman 🍁]

I've one-upped Teddy again by creating two Liberal seats in Peel Region (and one NDP seat)

One thing that will be very interesting will be what happens in downtown Toronto. Right now because of all the new development and condo construction, Olivia Chow's Trinity-Spadina seat is seriously over-populated and so is Toronto Centre. Its almost certain that a new seat will have to carved out there.

Ideally, I'd like to see Rosedale lopped off and merged with Forest Hill and or Leaside and create a "vote sink" that is all really wealthy NDP dead zones.

You could also easily create another NDP seat on vancouver island.

Why make those seats super NDP safe, when you can make 14 NDP ridings in Toronto, by stretching out the waterfront into suburban hinterland? [the answer is obvious, I know, but what's the fun in that?]

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

One thing that will be very interesting will be what happens in downtown Toronto. Right now because of all the new development and condo construction, Olivia Chow's Trinity-Spadina seat is seriously over-populated and so is Toronto Centre. Its almost certain that a new seat will have to carved out there.

Ideally, I'd like to see Rosedale lopped off and merged with Forest Hill and or Leaside and create a "vote sink" that is all really wealthy NDP dead zones.

You could also easily create another NDP seat on vancouver island.

I was shocked the NDP won the condo area, even if narrowly. It tells me that any new districts might not harm the NDP as much as is feared.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

How about a Conservative seat on the Montreal Island?

thanks to the airport, this is a hell of a lot easier than I thought it'd be.

http://maps.google.ca/maps/ms?authuser=0&ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=214668381355121949879.0004a89a249151dc67ed6

I call the riding "Trudeau" just to piss off the Conservatives XD

[Hatman 🍁]

How about a Conservative seat on the Montreal Island?

I did one too!



From the looks of it, Teddy's probably doesn't have enough people. I also included a neighbourhood in St Laurent that voted Conservative. And while Trudeau may not be the worst name for the riding (actually, a fairly good one- what with the airport and part of his old riding- but I'm against naming ridings after people), I gave it a more geographical name.

[Hash]

New challenge: gerrymander Ottawa-Orleans to elect the Liberal.

[DL]

Its interesting that in Australia many (if not most) ridings (they call them "electorates") are named after historical figures and not after the places in the ridings. Just about every Australian PM who is not still living has a riding named after him etc...

BTW: While creating a Liberal riding in Peel requires serious gerrymandering - making an NDP-friendly Gore-Malton is dead easy and is even likely since Brampton will almost certainly get an extra seat after redistribition. Right now Brampton West is the most heavily populated riding in Canada!

We could probably also create a third NDP seat in Surrey, BC

[Hatman 🍁]

It's funny that whenever I "gerrymander" an NDP seat, it always looks normal, but gerrymandering the other parties requires some work and funny looking districts. That'll change when I do Toronto and a 75 NDP seat Quebec

[DL]

2 NDP seats in Regina. Ralph Goodale would be upset, he'd probably lose in a more ruralized Wascana riding.

Regina Wascana is a bit deceptive because most of the people who would normally vote NDP are voting for Goodale (for some strange reason). The moment he quits Wascana will be another Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca and the successor to Goodale will be lucky to save their deposit. Without Goodale, Wascana would actually be the most NDP-friendly seat in the province.

[adma]

Without Goodale, Wascana would actually be the most NDP-friendly seat in the province.

Or at least, the most Tory-unfriendly--at least from appearances, because it has less rural hinterland than the others.  But it does contain some of Regina's more affluent zones, to the point where the "NDP-friendliness" is counteracted by a St Paul's or (pre-this-past-election) Winnipeg SC tendency.  Which Goodale, being a Liberal, is well equipped to straddle.

[Hash]

I'm curious to see how many non-conservative seats can we get gerrymandering Alberta.

I don't know if you could make an ugly seat packing the rez all around AB with some urban areas which are not too Tory with Banff and Jasper.

[DL]

Without Goodale, Wascana would actually be the most NDP-friendly seat in the province.

Or at least, the most Tory-unfriendly--at least from appearances, because it has less rural hinterland than the others.  But it does contain some of Regina's more affluent zones, to the point where the "NDP-friendliness" is counteracted by a St Paul's or (pre-this-past-election) Winnipeg SC tendency.  Which Goodale, being a Liberal, is well equipped to straddle.

But this is Regina not Toronto. Some of the wealthiest old-money enclaves in Regina are in Palliser - and the NDP won those polls by an overwhelming margin.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Old money is not Harper friendly. Harper is New money friendly.

[Hatman 🍁]

2 NDP seats in Regina. Ralph Goodale would be upset, he'd probably lose in a more ruralized Wascana riding.

Regina Wascana is a bit deceptive because most of the people who would normally vote NDP are voting for Goodale (for some strange reason). The moment he quits Wascana will be another Esquimalt-Juan de Fuca and the successor to Goodale will be lucky to save their deposit. Without Goodale, Wascana would actually be the most NDP-friendly seat in the province.

Well, this gerrymander is taking into account Ralph Goodale still being around. Although, it might encourage him to retire.