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Question: Do you think Kerry would have won if he hadn't voted for the Iraq war resolution?
Yes   -17 (44.7%)
No   -21 (55.3%)
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« on: July 26, 2011, 02:23:04 pm »
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I say yes.  If he had opposed the war from the beginning, the Bush campaign wouldn't have been able to say: "How can you criticize Bush?  After all, you voted to give him the authority to do what he did."  Given that the election was so close as it was, I think this would have made the difference.
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2011, 06:48:27 pm »
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That was not the reason he lost.
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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2011, 07:51:19 pm »
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No. Kerry loses both ways.
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« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2011, 12:47:47 am »
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Kerry in 2004, not sure.
Hillary in 2008, yes, although it should be noted that she was more pro-war than Kerry.
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« Reply #4 on: September 10, 2011, 11:37:48 am »
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would he even have been nominated?  remember, one of the key themes Kerry used in the 04 primaries (particularly when he was counterposed with Dean) was that he was 'electable' (a laughable notion for people on this board, who correctly saw him as a MA liberal with a long and exploitable roll call record).  without the war vote this shtick may have been harder to pull off, and he'd have started to look a lot like Dean except older and less exciting.
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« Reply #5 on: September 10, 2011, 12:55:53 pm »
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would he even have been nominated?  remember, one of the key themes Kerry used in the 04 primaries (particularly when he was counterposed with Dean) was that he was 'electable' (a laughable notion for people on this board, who correctly saw him as a MA liberal with a long and exploitable roll call record).  without the war vote this shtick may have been harder to pull off, and he'd have started to look a lot like Dean except older and less exciting.

Ironically, when we compare Kerry's record as U.S. Senator and Dean's record as Governor of Vermont, Dean was certainly more moderate candidate.

But, yes, there was a common misconception that "Kerry's war hero and experienced Senator, so he's better candidate".
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« Reply #6 on: September 10, 2011, 04:09:39 pm »
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Somebody said a long time ago on this forum. Kerry is a liberal who comes off as a moderate. Dean is a moderate who comes off as a liberal.
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