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Keystone Phil
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« on: July 31, 2011, 05:24:05 PM »

I'm waiting to go up to the gallery for the third time today. As I was leaving just a few minutes ago for a break (looking at empty seats for two hours is exhausting), a page visited the gallery and said there is a deal. The vote is scheduled for 7. Not sure if it was reported elsewhere so I figured I would update all of my friends here. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 05:30:43 PM »

A nice update.

Congrats Phil.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 05:32:02 PM »

Not on NBC as of yet.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 05:34:15 PM »


Phil News Network is more reliable.
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« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2011, 06:01:25 PM »

Don't listen to pages. They're Bad People.
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« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2011, 06:27:06 PM »

Don't listen to pages. They're Bad People.

Mark Foley seconds that.
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« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2011, 07:13:00 PM »

Well, yes, the pages were wrong again or the Senate is being its usual self and delayed it. Now word is that they have to wait until McConnell meets with the Republicans. That's at 8:30.
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« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2011, 07:14:14 PM »

You know how legislative bodies are with delaying things as much as humanly possible.
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« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2011, 07:31:27 PM »

Did Obama cave on everything?
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2011, 07:37:15 PM »

Obama is going to speak in 5 minutes. A deal may have been struck.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2011, 07:42:50 PM »

.......and a deal has been struck!
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2011, 07:44:29 PM »

Sounds like a reasonable compromise honestly.
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« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2011, 07:49:33 PM »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.
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« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2011, 07:55:54 PM »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.

The centers of both parties.  GOP loses 60 votes in the House and gains 30 Democrats.  The Democrats lose 20 votes in the Senate and gain 15 Republicans.
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« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2011, 07:56:30 PM »

Sounds like a reasonable compromise honestly.
Meh, more or less.
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« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2011, 08:00:59 PM »

The Devil is in the details, people. I'll withhold judgement until some actual legislation is released. I don't even know if they'll have time to have the CBO score it before they pass it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2011, 08:07:32 PM »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.

Boehner is denying it because he's fallen out of the loop and he can barely pass his own bill much less someone else's.   Pelosi is going to pretend to be Speaker again on this and Hoyer is going to twist moderate/sane GOP arms for passage.

Democrats shouldn't have stuck with Pelosi.  Now would be the perfect time for a fresh face Minority Leader to one up Boehner and save the economy.  People already don't like Nancy.
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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2011, 08:19:24 PM »


Boehner is denying it because he's fallen out of the loop and he can barely pass his own bill much less someone else's.   Pelosi is going to pretend to be Speaker again on this and Hoyer is going to twist moderate/sane GOP arms for passage.

Democrats shouldn't have stuck with Pelosi.  Now would be the perfect time for a fresh face Minority Leader to one up Boehner and save the economy.  People already don't like Nancy.

Please, the Pelosi bashing is so old. She knows how to get things done and did get them done, more than that person who is Speaker now. Being party leader isn't a popularity contest, it's about who gets the job done.
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« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2011, 08:21:16 PM »


Boehner is denying it because he's fallen out of the loop and he can barely pass his own bill much less someone else's.   Pelosi is going to pretend to be Speaker again on this and Hoyer is going to twist moderate/sane GOP arms for passage.

Democrats shouldn't have stuck with Pelosi.  Now would be the perfect time for a fresh face Minority Leader to one up Boehner and save the economy.  People already don't like Nancy.

Please, the Pelosi bashing is so old. She knows how to get things done and did get them done, more than that person who is Speaker now. Being party leader isn't a popularity contest, it's about who gets the job done.
Not as old as Bush bashing?
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« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2011, 08:23:07 PM »


Who mentioned Bush? Oh, I know. You just did. It never fails for Republicans to play the Bush sympathy card.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2011, 08:23:59 PM »

Let me guess what this bill has--Gut SS, Medicare and Medicaid and our regulatory agencies as we know them, leave the military industry entirely alone. Glennbeckistan here we come.
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« Reply #21 on: July 31, 2011, 08:28:45 PM »


Who mentioned Bush? Oh, I know. You just did. It never fails for Republicans to play the Bush sympathy card.

I think what Sanchez is implying (or what I would like to add) is while Bush bashing is old news, no act will get him on the good side of the American people for quite some time.  Same goes for Pelosi.
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« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2011, 08:48:55 PM »
« Edited: July 31, 2011, 08:51:59 PM by memphis »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.

The centers of both parties.  GOP loses 60 votes in the House and gains 30 Democrats.  The Democrats lose 20 votes in the Senate and gain 15 Republicans.

The parties don't have close to enough centrists. Even in your example. House GOP has 240 members. Minus 60 would be 180. Plus 30 Dems would only be 210. The Senate Dems have 53 members if you count indies. Minus 20 is 33. Plus 15 is only 48. Fail.
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« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2011, 08:57:01 PM »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.

The centers of both parties.  GOP loses 60 votes in the House and gains 30 Democrats.  The Democrats lose 20 votes in the Senate and gain 15 Republicans.

The parties don't have close to enough centrists. Even in your example. House GOP has 240 members. Minus 60 would be 180. Plus 30 Dems would only be 210. The Senate Dems have 53 members if you count indies. Minus 20 is 33. Plus 15 is only 48. Fail.

Gerrymandering is what created this extremism.  I guess this why it is good to have a Senate.

This government would collapse under the weight of 2-6 year cycles of single payer healthcare being passed and then repealed.
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« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2011, 09:04:16 PM »


Who mentioned Bush? Oh, I know. You just did. It never fails for Republicans to play the Bush sympathy card.
I wonder how many times you have claimed Obamas sympanthy card ("boo hoo I inheirited this)...? I am in NO WAY a Bush fan, believe me, but, instead of fixing the problem, Obama made it worse; way worse. Has he even proposed a plan?
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