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« on: July 31, 2011, 08:07:32 PM »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.

Boehner is denying it because he's fallen out of the loop and he can barely pass his own bill much less someone else's.   Pelosi is going to pretend to be Speaker again on this and Hoyer is going to twist moderate/sane GOP arms for passage.

Democrats shouldn't have stuck with Pelosi.  Now would be the perfect time for a fresh face Minority Leader to one up Boehner and save the economy.  People already don't like Nancy.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2011, 08:28:45 PM »


Who mentioned Bush? Oh, I know. You just did. It never fails for Republicans to play the Bush sympathy card.

I think what Sanchez is implying (or what I would like to add) is while Bush bashing is old news, no act will get him on the good side of the American people for quite some time.  Same goes for Pelosi.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2011, 08:57:01 PM »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.

The centers of both parties.  GOP loses 60 votes in the House and gains 30 Democrats.  The Democrats lose 20 votes in the Senate and gain 15 Republicans.

The parties don't have close to enough centrists. Even in your example. House GOP has 240 members. Minus 60 would be 180. Plus 30 Dems would only be 210. The Senate Dems have 53 members if you count indies. Minus 20 is 33. Plus 15 is only 48. Fail.

Gerrymandering is what created this extremism.  I guess this why it is good to have a Senate.

This government would collapse under the weight of 2-6 year cycles of single payer healthcare being passed and then repealed.
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« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2011, 11:23:14 PM »
« Edited: July 31, 2011, 11:25:48 PM by A Serious King™ »

Boehner is denying it. I don't see how anything that can get through the Senate can get through the House. Too many nutters.

Yes, the Senate is full of Senators exhibiting clinical denial concerning the fact that deficits and debt cannot continue to grow expodentially without some day of reckoning.

Yes.  But is it really today?

I heard an interesting thing from one of CNN's international correspondents today covering Asian markets, which haven't risen very much since the news of the deal broke.  A person he talked to at a large firm said they really didn't know about the debt ceiling until this whole mess was brought up and are now downgrading their opinion of investment in American bonds because of its mere existence and potential for deals to not be reached in the future.  Nice job, Teabaggers.
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2011, 12:58:35 AM »
« Edited: August 01, 2011, 01:01:16 AM by A Serious King™ »

Well, too bad there is no taxes hike on the richer, but, at last, US government was forced to control its deficit.

Tax hikes on the rich won't return until Republicans return to power in the 20s, a balanced budget amendment is implemented, the austerity begins, and citizens demand their services back. The hands of the 2030s Democratic administration will be tied.

It's part of the great circle of life.
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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2011, 01:17:00 AM »

So how did Phil get to be in the Capitol for this? Does he work for somebody, is he a prominent activist, or was he just lucky enough to get ringside seats for this drama? Whatever the case may be, I'm...actually a little jealous.

Let's just say Santorum was involved.
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2011, 01:37:35 AM »

The only reason we care about the debt is because of a risk of default and austerity.  Default and austerity is not a solution to this problem.

I heard an interesting thing from one of CNN's international correspondents today covering Asian markets, which haven't risen very much since the news of the deal broke.  A person he talked to at a large firm said they really didn't know about the debt ceiling until this whole mess was brought up and are now downgrading their opinion of investment in American bonds because of its mere existence and potential for deals to not be reached in the future.  Nice job, Teabaggers.

this analyst at a large firm never knew about the debt ceiling?!  just goes to show you how much analyst know

I doubt internationals keep much track over something that has been routinely raised fifty times without question or much media coverage for that matter.  It would be like the State Department keeping track of parking meter laws in Munich.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2011, 02:28:39 AM »

I heard an interesting thing from one of CNN's international correspondents today covering Asian markets, which haven't risen very much since the news of the deal broke.  A person he talked to at a large firm said they really didn't know about the debt ceiling until this whole mess was brought up and are now downgrading their opinion of investment in American bonds because of its mere existence and potential for deals to not be reached in the future.  Nice job, Teabaggers.

this analyst at a large firm never knew about the debt ceiling?!  just goes to show you how much analyst know

I doubt internationals keep much track over something that has been routinely raised fifty times without question or much media coverage for that matter.  It would be like the State Department keeping track of parking meter laws in Munich.

the debt limit has been an issue for a very long time, heck I can remember the issue back in the Reagan days

But its increase was never in doubt.
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2011, 06:41:29 PM »

I'm hoping the Senate votes no at the last minute, or Obama vetoes it.

Oh, it's you again.
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