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« on: August 01, 2011, 05:58:09 pm »



Of course, all this stems more from spoils system, dictatorships, corruption, nepotism, etc., than from women conquering power out of their own. Still, there are very good examples in the list (the mega-list Tongue). But, of course, many of us will prefer "bad" ones to "PC" ones Grin.

At least, there is one advantage in this survivor: a woman will win ! Which is pretty scarce here.
And we'll also learn a lot, I think.

The list has one difference with the exploratory topic: I've included Ingrid Betancourt and excluded Viola Burnham from Guyana as Wikipedia don't tell us anything on her.

Catherine Tizard
Judith Tizard

Hillary Clinton
Elizabeth Dole
Eleanor Roosevelt
Pamela Harriman
Arianna Huffington
Miriam "Ma" Ferguson
Niki Tsongas
Rose McConnell Long
Jean Carnahan
Kathleen Kennedy Townsend
Christine Todd Whitman
Kathleen Sebelius
Lisa Murkowski
Mary Landrieu
Nancy Pelosi
Elizabeth Cheney
Cynthia McKinney
Maureen Reagan
Claire McCaskill
Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin
Kay Hagan

Edna Manley

Nita Barrow

Vilma Espin

Zury Rios Montt

Nora Gunera de Melgar

Violetta Barrios de Chamorro

Mireya Moscoso

Janet Jagan

Carolina Barco
Ingrid Betancourt

Keiko Fujimori

Rosinha Garotinho
Roseana Sarney
Alzira Vargas

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner
Eva Peron
Isabel Peron

Isabel Allende

Sile de Valera
Mary O'Rourke

Violet Bonham Carter
Megan Lloyd George
Margaret Jay
Yvette Cooper

Martine Aubry
Marine Le Pen
Michèle Alliot-Marie

Antoinette Spaak

Ursula von der Leyen

Karen Ellemann

Gro Harlem Brundtland

Alva Myrdal

Hertta Kuusinen

Nadezhda Krupskaya

Kinga Goncz

Elena Ceausescu

Lyudmila Zhivkova

Nexhmije Hoxha

Dora Bakoyianni

Mercedes Cabrera Calvo-Sotelo

Alessandra Mussolini

Nana Konadu Rawlings

Simone Gbagbo

Pascaline Bongo

Miria Obote

Margaret Kenyatta

Winnie Madikizela-Mandela

Nayla Moawad

Dariga Nazarbayeva

Gulnara Karimova

Benazir Bhutto
Ghinwa Bhutto

Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit
Sheila Kaul
Sonia Gandhi
Maneka Gandhi
Indira Gandhi
Rabri Devi

Sujata Koirala

Hasina Wajed
Khaleda Zia

Chandrika Kumaratunga
Sunethra Bandaranaike
Sirimavo Bandaranaike

Aung San Suu Kyi

Megawati Sukarnoputri

Gloria Macapagal Arroyo
Imee Marcos
Imelda Marcos
Corazon Aquino

Yingluck Shinawatra

Soong Ai-ling
Soong Ching-ling
Soong May-ling
Jiang Qing

Park Geun-hye

Makiko Tanaka


Rules:
The woman (women) who receive(s) the biggest total of points (both eliminating and keeping votes) is (are) eliminated.

- For 10 rounds, we'll eliminate 3 women in each round, with the following rule:
you can cast 15 points (5-4-3-2-1) or 12 points (6-4-2) or 10 points (8-2) or 9 points (just for one woman) to eliminate and you have 3 points to keep from 1 to 3 women (hence, 3 or 2-1 or 1-1-1). This allows you to spread your points (and, as you give less points to one woman, you have more points) or to concentrate against a woman you really want to oust.

- For 10 rounds, we'll eliminate 2 women in each round, with the following rule:
you have 6 points, to cast as you wish among 3 women (4-1-1, 3-2-1, 2-2-2) and as you wish between eliminating and keeping points (you can only vote to keep, if you want).

- For 10 rounds, we'll eliminate 2 women in each round, with the following rule:
you have 5 points to eliminate, to cast 2-2-1, and 2 points to keep one or two women.

- For 10 rounds, we'll eliminate 2 women in each round, with the following rule:
you have 3 points to eliminate, to cast 2-1, and 1 point to keep.

- For 9 rounds, we'll eliminate 1 woman in each round, with the following rule:
you have 1 point to eliminate.
(if the survivor is funny and appreciated, I'll make a mini-tournament for the last 10 rounds).

Each round will last at least 24 hours.
You can't change your vote if someone has cast a vote after your own one.
You can't abstain from giving eliminating or keeping votes.
You can't cast eliminating and keeping votes for a same woman.

In case of a tie, the woman who received the biggest total of points in previous rounds is eliminated. In case of a new tie, the woman who received the biggest total of eliminating points in the round is eliminated. In case of a new tie, I, eunuch Tongue of this survivor, decide who is eliminated.

ROUND 1 IS OPEN !

In this round, you can cast 15 points (5-4-3-2-1) or 12 points (6-4-2) or 10 points (8-2) or 9 points (just for one woman) to eliminate and you have 3 points to keep from 1 to 3 women (hence, 3 or 2-1 or 1-1-1). .
We'll eliminate 3 women.

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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2011, 06:04:39 pm »

Eliminate
5 Marine Le Pen (I can't stand her Tongue)
4 Simone Gbagbo
3 Alessandra Mussolini
2 Winnie Madikizela-Mandela
1 Maureen Reagan

Keep
1 Elena Ceausescu
1 Rabri Devi
1 Hertta Kuusinen

OK, I'll let you more than 24 hours for the first round, as the list is "heavy".
And talk about this survivor around you Wink.
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« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 02:28:35 am »
Ignore

5 Marine le Pen
4 Alessandra Mussolini
3 Winnie Mandela
2 Tanaka
1 Geun-Hye

Keep

3 Eleanor Roosevelt
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« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2011, 08:22:49 am »

Don't forget keeping votes, Ben.
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« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2011, 08:42:46 am »
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5 Winnie Madikizela-Mandela
4 Nancy Pelosi
3 Lisa Murkowski
2 Maureen Reagan
1 Simone Gbagbo

Keep:
2 Eleanor
1 Alessandra Mussolini (She is at least interesting.)
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« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2011, 12:13:31 pm »
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Eliminate:
5  Alessandra Mussolini
4  Marine le Pen
3  Imelda Marcos
2  Elena Ceausescu
1  Maureen Reagan

Keep:
2  Elena Ceausescu
1  Alva Myrdal
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« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2011, 03:35:10 pm »

Eliminate:
5  Alessandra Mussolini
4  Marine le Pen
3  Imelda Marcos
2  Elena Ceausescu
1  Maureen Reagan

Keep:
2  Elena Ceausescu
1  Alva Myrdal


Hans, there is a problem with Elena: you can't both keep and eliminate.
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2011, 03:50:19 pm »
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Eliminate:
5  Alessandra Mussolini
4  Marine le Pen
3  Imelda Marcos
2  Elena Ceausescu
1  Maureen Reagan

Keep:
2  Elena Ceausescu
1  Alva Myrdal


Hans, there is a problem with Elena: you can't both keep and eliminate.

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This is my vote:

Eliminate:
5  Alessandra Mussolini
4  Marine le Pen
3  Imelda Marcos
2  Elena Ceausescu
1  Maureen Reagan

Keep:
2  Indira Gandhi
1  Alva Myrdal
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2011, 04:48:03 pm »
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5 for Maureen Reagan
4 for Pamela Harriman
3 for Lisa Murkowski
2 for Cynthia McKinney
1 for Elizabeth Cheney

Keep
1 for Imelda Marcos
1 for Winnie Mandela
1 for Nancy Pelosi
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« Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 04:20:42 am »

I was sure Edu would cast an entirely US vote Smiley.
You're right: they are numerous. I'll join you very, very soon Wink.
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« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2011, 05:05:03 pm »

Well, our turnout is low...

homely ? I know, you must be fed up with these utterly long lists... but it's survivorland, you know Wink.

And Julio was interested but won't be able to vote until next week.

Maybe I should have waited a bit more to open this survivor.
I let this first round opened for one more day and then we'll erase our first names.
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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2011, 05:18:05 pm »





Catherine Tizard
Judith Tizard

Hillary Clinton
Elizabeth Dole
Eleanor Roosevelt
Pamela Harriman
Arianna Huffington
Miriam "Ma" Ferguson
Niki Tsongas
Rose McConnell Long
Jean Carnahan
Kathleen Kennedy Townsend
Christine Todd Whitman
Kathleen Sebelius
Lisa Murkowski
Mary Landrieu
Nancy Pelosi
Elizabeth Cheney
Cynthia McKinney
Maureen Reagan
Claire McCaskill
Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin
Kay Hagan

Edna Manley

Nita Barrow

Vilma Espin

Zury Rios Montt

Nora Gunera de Melgar

Violetta Barrios de Chamorro

Mireya Moscoso

Janet Jagan

Carolina Barco
Ingrid Betancourt

Keiko Fujimori

Rosinha Garotinho
Roseana Sarney
Alzira Vargas

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner
Eva Peron
Isabel Peron

Isabel Allende

Sile de Valera
Mary O'Rourke

Violet Bonham Carter
Megan Lloyd George
Margaret Jay
Yvette Cooper

Martine Aubry
Marine Le Pen
Michèle Alliot-Marie

Antoinette Spaak

Ursula von der Leyen

Karen Ellemann

Gro Harlem Brundtland

Alva Myrdal

Hertta Kuusinen

Nadezhda Krupskaya

Kinga Goncz

Elena Ceausescu

Lyudmila Zhivkova

Nexhmije Hoxha

Dora Bakoyianni

Mercedes Cabrera Calvo-Sotelo

Alessandra Mussolini

Nana Konadu Rawlings

Simone Gbagbo

Pascaline Bongo

Miria Obote

Margaret Kenyatta

Winnie Madikizela-Mandela

Nayla Moawad

Dariga Nazarbayeva

Gulnara Karimova

Benazir Bhutto
Ghinwa Bhutto

Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit
Sheila Kaul
Sonia Gandhi
Maneka Gandhi
Indira Gandhi
Rabri Devi

Sujata Koirala

Hasina Wajed
Khaleda Zia

Chandrika Kumaratunga
Sunethra Bandaranaike
Sirimavo Bandaranaike

Aung San Suu Kyi

Megawati Sukarnoputri

Gloria Macapagal Arroyo
Imee Marcos
Imelda Marcos
Corazon Aquino

Yingluck Shinawatra

Soong Ai-ling
Soong Ching-ling
Soong May-ling
Jiang Qing

Park Geun-hye

Makiko Tanaka


Results:
Round 1: Le Pen 14, Mussolini 11, Madikizela-Mandela 9 (10 eliminating points), Reagan 9 (9 eliminating points), Murkowski 6, Gbagbo 5, Harriman 4, Pelosi 3, Imelda Marcos 2, McKinney 2, Tanaka 2, Ceausescu 1, Cheney 1, Park 1, Devi -1, Kuusinen -1, Myrdal -1, Indira Gandhi -2, Roosevelt -5

ROUND 2 IS OPEN !

In this round, you can cast 15 points (5-4-3-2-1) or 12 points (6-4-2) or 10 points (8-2) or 9 points (just for one woman) to eliminate and you have 3 points to keep from 1 to 3 women (hence, 3 or 2-1 or 1-1-1). .
We'll eliminate 3 women.

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« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2011, 05:23:11 pm »

Eliminate
5 Simone Gbagbo
4 Arianna Huffington
3 Elizabeth Cheney
2 Cynthia McKinney
1 Maureen Reagan

Keep
1 Elena Ceausescu
1 Lyudmila Zhivkova
1 Imelda Marcos
(fine picks, eh ? Grin)

EDIT: I hope homely will join us some day and Julio too when he's back, but we must move forward so that this survivor lives.
In this type of survivor, in early August, with such a list, I guess 5 is a crowd Grin.

But I'm sure we'll have fun: look, already an amazing tie between Mandela and Reagan Tongue.
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« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2011, 07:47:22 pm »
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Sorry if it takes me longer to post my votes.  I would like to go through a few of these names when I'm able Tongue
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« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2011, 03:44:49 am »

Oh, you have some time as nobody else has voted yet.
I have a little advantage as I made the list and so already know at least vaguely something on every name Wink.
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« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2011, 06:22:43 pm »
Ignore

Eliminate
5 for Maureen Reagan
4 for Pamela Harriman
3 for Lisa Murkowski
2 for Cynthia McKinney
1 for Elizabeth Cheney

Keep
2 for Simone Gbagbo
1 for Imelda Marcos
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« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2011, 01:49:41 pm »
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5 Pamela Harriman
4 Elizabeth Cheney
3 Simone Gbagbo
2 Maureen Reagan
1 Elena Ceausescu

keep
2 Lisa Murkowski
1 Arianna Huffington
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E: -6.06 -> -6.97 -> -6.97 -> -8.13 -> -7.29 -> -8.26 -> -8.65 -> -7.03
S: -6.78 -> -6.09 -> -7.30 -> -7.13 -> -8.09 -> -8.35 -> -9.04 -> -8.61
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« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2011, 07:47:24 pm »
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5  Lisa Murkowski
4  Maureen Reagan
3  Elizabeth Cheney
2  Nancy Pelosi
1  Clinton

Keep:

2  Huffington
1  Jean Carnahan
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« Reply #18 on: August 13, 2011, 04:35:38 pm »

Ben ? Hans ?
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2011, 10:26:12 am »
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Eliminate:
5  Imelda Marcos
4  Elena Ceausescu
3  Maureen Reagan
2  Elizabeth Cheney
1  Keiko Fujimori

Keep:
2  Lisa Murkowski
1  Simone Gbagbo


Sorry for my delay, but it was a very busy week for me Sad
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« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2011, 08:42:27 am »





Catherine Tizard
Judith Tizard

Hillary Clinton
Elizabeth Dole
Eleanor Roosevelt
Arianna Huffington
Miriam "Ma" Ferguson
Niki Tsongas
Rose McConnell Long
Jean Carnahan
Kathleen Kennedy Townsend
Christine Todd Whitman
Kathleen Sebelius
Lisa Murkowski
Mary Landrieu
Nancy Pelosi
Cynthia McKinney
Claire McCaskill
Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin
Kay Hagan

Edna Manley

Nita Barrow

Vilma Espin

Zury Rios Montt

Nora Gunera de Melgar

Violetta Barrios de Chamorro

Mireya Moscoso

Janet Jagan

Carolina Barco
Ingrid Betancourt

Keiko Fujimori

Rosinha Garotinho
Roseana Sarney
Alzira Vargas

Cristina Fernandez de Kirchner
Eva Peron
Isabel Peron

Isabel Allende

Sile de Valera
Mary O'Rourke

Violet Bonham Carter
Megan Lloyd George
Margaret Jay
Yvette Cooper

Martine Aubry
Michèle Alliot-Marie

Antoinette Spaak

Ursula von der Leyen

Karen Ellemann

Gro Harlem Brundtland

Alva Myrdal

Hertta Kuusinen

Nadezhda Krupskaya

Kinga Goncz

Elena Ceausescu

Lyudmila Zhivkova

Nexhmije Hoxha

Dora Bakoyianni

Mercedes Cabrera Calvo-Sotelo

Nana Konadu Rawlings

Simone Gbagbo

Pascaline Bongo

Miria Obote

Margaret Kenyatta

Nayla Moawad

Dariga Nazarbayeva

Gulnara Karimova

Benazir Bhutto
Ghinwa Bhutto

Vijaya Lakshmi Pandit
Sheila Kaul
Sonia Gandhi
Maneka Gandhi
Indira Gandhi
Rabri Devi

Sujata Koirala

Hasina Wajed
Khaleda Zia

Chandrika Kumaratunga
Sunethra Bandaranaike
Sirimavo Bandaranaike

Aung San Suu Kyi

Megawati Sukarnoputri

Gloria Macapagal Arroyo
Imee Marcos
Imelda Marcos
Corazon Aquino

Yingluck Shinawatra

Soong Ai-ling
Soong Ching-ling
Soong May-ling
Jiang Qing

Park Geun-hye

Makiko Tanaka


Results:
Round 1: Le Pen 14, Mussolini 11, Madikizela-Mandela 9 (10 eliminating points), Reagan 9 (9 eliminating points), Murkowski 6, Gbagbo 5, Harriman 4, Pelosi 3, Imelda Marcos 2, McKinney 2, Tanaka 2, Ceausescu 1, Cheney 1, Park 1, Devi -1, Kuusinen -1, Myrdal -1, Indira Gandhi -2, Roosevelt -5
Round 2: Reagan 15, Cheney 13, Harriman 9, Ceausescu 5, Gbagbo 5, McKinney 4, Murkowski 4, Imelda Marcos 3, Pelosi 2, Clinton 1, Huffington 1, Fujimori 1, Carnahan -1, Zhivkova -1

ROUND 3 IS OPEN !

In this round, you can cast 15 points (5-4-3-2-1) or 12 points (6-4-2) or 10 points (8-2) or 9 points (just for one woman) to eliminate and you have 3 points to keep from 1 to 3 women (hence, 3 or 2-1 or 1-1-1). .
We'll eliminate 3 women.

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« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2011, 08:47:58 am »

Eliminate
5 Gbagbo
4 McKinney
3 Pelosi
2 Murkowski
1 Kennedy Townsend

Keep
1 Ceausescu
1 Imelda Marcos
1 Karimova
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« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2011, 03:30:54 pm »
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Eliminate:
5  Imelda Marcos
4  Elena Ceausescu
3  Keiko Fujimori
2  Jiang Qing
1  Cynthia McKinney

Keep:
2  Lisa Murkowski
1  Nancy Pelosi
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« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2011, 05:43:24 pm »
Ignore

5 Simone Gbagbo
4 Elena Ceausescu
3 Jian Qing
2 Karimova
1 Cynthia McKinney

keep
2 Lisa Murkowski
1 Arianna Huffington

Edit: fixed
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« Reply #24 on: August 17, 2011, 06:24:28 am »

My friends, I need more votes here !
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