England riots

[Phony Moderate]

[bgwah]

http://www.thenation.com/blog/162421/colbert-challenges-poverty-deniers

He even uses "poors" as a noun!

[phk]

South Asians take a hit in UK riots, 3 Pakistanis killed

LONDON: The riots in England claimed South Asian victims on Wednesday when three young men of Pakistani origin were killed in a "deliberate" hit-and-run incident in the country's second biggest city of Birmingham. While retailers of Indian origin were attacked in Birmingham, in the west London suburb of Southall, home to a large number of Sikh migrants, scores of men armed with swords and hockey sticks guarded their gurdwaras through the night. One of them said: "We'll take the law into our hands, bad luck."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/South-Asians-take-a-hit-in-UK-riots-3-Pakistanis-killed/articleshow/9558893.cms

[opebo]

http://www.thenation.com/blog/162421/colbert-challenges-poverty-deniers

He even uses "poors" as a noun!

We shall overcome!

[Lief 🗽]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/11082011/58/premier-league-spurs-game-postponed-due-riots.html

well fuck this. I was looking forward to that game.

[Јas]

Wave of criminality spreads to Isle of Wight...

[Zarn]

So the people being ill-treated by these rebels without a clue aren't going to take it lying down. Well, at least that is heartening.

Please stop trying to be clever.. it is painful to observe.

I'm afraid you overestimated him. He doesn't know what "clever" is.

Let me know when you two get passed a high school mentality and actually come up with something of substance.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Torrential rain saves the day.

[Reaganfan]

By the looks of it, Id say this is the same type of rioting here on the other side of the Atlantic---over sensitive neighborhood riots! Its a smaller version of Rodney King I guess.

Indeed. They said it was to begin as a "peaceful protest". Oddly enough, even liberals I know told me last night they are "fed up" with the rioters.

Anyone who knows anything knows that any police officer anywhere in Europe isn't gonna be trigger happy, and it was probably a justified shooting. Of course, if race shouldn't matter...why does it matter here?

These rioters are hypocrites and cowards all the way.

London has lost so much of it's culture, it's not what it used to be. The radicalization of London over the last two decades has indeed ended whatever culture people because accustomed to associating London with.

[Јas]

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-- Libya says Irish, Scottish mercenaries tame UK riots, Reuters

[republicanism]

Anyone who knows anything knows that any police officer anywhere in Europe isn't gonna be trigger happy,

How comes you are so sure about this?

and it was probably a justified shooting.

Hasn't Scotland Yard itself admitted that in all likelyhood it was not?

[Reaganfan]

Anyone who knows anything knows that any police officer anywhere in Europe isn't gonna be trigger happy,

How comes you are so sure about this?

Europe has a history of being too liberal for it's own good.

I was explaining to a coworker the other day about how different Britain is than what many Americans see it as. Instead of British people sipping tea and being friendly, the country is so radicalized and full of extremists that it has lost whatever culture it possessed in the decades following World War II. Americans look at Winston Churchill as a heroic figure. They booted him out after the war. Americans look at Margaret Thatcher as a heroic figure. Many in her own land loath her and her legacy. It's almost as if Barack Obama would make a better European leader and people like Churchill, Thatcher and Blair would make better American leaders. Indeed, I know many British people dislike the fact that Tony Blair acted more like a "President" than a Prime Minister. Maybe it's fear. After all, Europe has had a brutal history. Berlin, Warsaw, Paris, London...all of them and more were at one time or another, in ruins. Besides 1812, the Civil War, and September 11, 2001, Americans haven't had that kind of brutality in our own land, and perhaps this should give pause to criticism of Europeans.

What I can't grasp for the life of me is the hypocrisy of them to riot and cause disorder after a criminal was taken off the streets.

[Franzl]

It's amusing how little Naso actually understands.

[Insula Dei]

Amusing in a very frightening way, Franzl.

[Lief 🗽]

Yes, because Naso represents the views, opinions and understanding of the world of your average American.

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-- Libya says Irish, Scottish mercenaries tame UK riots, Reuters

Cameron should respond in jest. Just as Gaddafi threatened to flood Europe with African refugees, Cameron should threaten to flood North Africa with thousands of tracksuit-wearing, XBox-playing teenagers popularly described by a certain four letter word.

[republicanism]

Europe has a history of being too liberal for it's own good.

Well I disagree in general, but besides that, you are just wrong thinking that European policemen aren't "trigger-happy".

Americans look at Margaret Thatcher as a heroic figure. Many in her own land loath her and her legacy.

May have something to do with the widespread belief that the decline of certain inner-city-areas and London boroughs, namely those where the rioting goes on now, is not least a result of Thatcherism.

What I can't grasp for the life of me is the hypocrisy of them to riot and cause disorder after a criminal was taken off the streets.

Again, afaik the London police itself admitted that Mark Duggan hasn't shot first.
Not that I have much sympathy for those who take part in the riots either.

[afleitch]

(smug)May be speaking too soon, but very interesting to notice what cities/areas didn't riot(/smug)

[You kip if you want to...]

(smug)May be speaking too soon, but very interesting to notice what cities/areas didn't riot(/smug)

Our English problem, as the First Minister put it.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Shut up Naso.

[Ban my account ffs!]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14493497

Funny how when social media helped stoke revolution in Egypt last winter, Cameron was praising it.

Now that there have been riots in England... it's time for the UK Govt to clamp down and control the social media so they can shut it down when the natives get restless.

And per the article, the strongest reaction anybody seems to have against that is "hmm... well there very well could be, perhaps, maybe, an issue of civil rights infringement... but don't quote me on that.. pip pip cheerio... God save the queen!"

I wasn't aware that V for Vendetta was a documentary before its time.

[Paul Kemp]

Shut up Naso.

Classic Naso.

[Ban my account ffs!]

I also loved some of the official responses as to why the riots occurred.. like


 "a perverted social ethos, which elevates personal freedom to an absolute, and denies the underclass the discipline - tough love - which alone might enable some of its members to escape from the swamp of dependency in which they live".


... just wow.

Yet others blame it on "gangsta rap and culture"... um... 1993 much?

"I once interviewed a boy who said 'just because I like the music doesn't mean I agree with the lyrics', which is true," says Prof FitzGerald. "But it may be a factor when it comes to those who may be particularly susceptible."

Must be the "underclass" he's referring to that's "particularly susceptible".

[bore]

Anyone who knows anything knows that any police officer anywhere in Europe isn't gonna be trigger happy,

How comes you are so sure about this?

Europe has a history of being too liberal for it's own good.

I was explaining to a coworker the other day about how different Britain is than what many Americans see it as. Instead of British people sipping tea and being friendly, the country is so radicalized and full of extremists that it has lost whatever culture it possessed in the decades following World War II. Americans look at Winston Churchill as a heroic figure. They booted him out after the war. Americans look at Margaret Thatcher as a heroic figure. Many in her own land loath her and her legacy. It's almost as if Barack Obama would make a better European leader and people like Churchill, Thatcher and Blair would make better American leaders. Indeed, I know many British people dislike the fact that Tony Blair acted more like a "President" than a Prime Minister. Maybe it's fear. After all, Europe has had a brutal history. Berlin, Warsaw, Paris, London...all of them and more were at one time or another, in ruins. Besides 1812, the Civil War, and September 11, 2001, Americans haven't had that kind of brutality in our own land, and perhaps this should give pause to criticism of Europeans.

What I can't grasp for the life of me is the hypocrisy of them to riot and cause disorder after a criminal was taken off the streets.

Do you actually know anything about Britain?

[Keystone Phil]

Europe has a history of being too liberal for it's own good.

I was explaining to a coworker the other day about how different Britain is than what many Americans see it as. Instead of British people sipping tea and being friendly, the country is so radicalized and full of extremists that it has lost whatever culture it possessed in the decades following World War II. Americans look at Winston Churchill as a heroic figure. They booted him out after the war. Americans look at Margaret Thatcher as a heroic figure. Many in her own land loath her and her legacy. It's almost as if Barack Obama would make a better European leader and people like Churchill, Thatcher and Blair would make better American leaders. Indeed, I know many British people dislike the fact that Tony Blair acted more like a "President" than a Prime Minister. Maybe it's fear. After all, Europe has had a brutal history. Berlin, Warsaw, Paris, London...all of them and more were at one time or another, in ruins. Besides 1812, the Civil War, and September 11, 2001, Americans haven't had that kind of brutality in our own land, and perhaps this should give pause to criticism of Europeans.

What I can't grasp for the life of me is the hypocrisy of them to riot and cause disorder after a criminal was taken off the streets.

Knew it had to be in there somewhere!