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« Reply #700 on: January 18, 2015, 12:24:16 pm »
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I have sent RCP an email that they should remove that silly Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll from their average, just like the Economist/YouGov poll.

They are major outliers.

Rasmussen, Gallup, CNN and CBS all show ca. 50-50 ratings right now.

Reuters/Ipsos has a 38% (!!!) approval and YouGov is not much better.

These 2 were already way off compared with the 2014 exit poll.

Perhaps, on the flip side if we go back 3-4 month ago we can make a similar argument that Rasmussen should be taken off the RCP average since it consistently has a much higher approval rating for Obama than the rest of the pack.  All that took place since was Gallup and CBS has converged to the Rasmussen while Reuters/Ipsos and to some extend FOX and Economist/YouGov still has approval ratings more like 3-4 months ago.  That is the whole point of a RCP average.  House effects is not constant (in 2012 Reuters/Ipsos and Economist/YouGov were very accurate while Rasmussen has a history of a GOP bias which now seems to be reversed.)  So the best way to cater for all of this is go for an average accepting that there will be some that would not be close to the pack for some period of time.
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« Reply #701 on: January 18, 2015, 01:02:50 pm »
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I have sent RCP an email that they should remove that silly Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll from their average, just like the Economist/YouGov poll.

They are major outliers.

Rasmussen, Gallup, CNN and CBS all show ca. 50-50 ratings right now.

Reuters/Ipsos has a 38% (!!!) approval and YouGov is not much better.

These 2 were already way off compared with the 2014 exit poll.

Perhaps, on the flip side if we go back 3-4 month ago we can make a similar argument that Rasmussen should be taken off the RCP average since it consistently has a much higher approval rating for Obama than the rest of the pack.  All that took place since was Gallup and CBS has converged to the Rasmussen while Reuters/Ipsos and to some extend FOX and Economist/YouGov still has approval ratings more like 3-4 months ago.  That is the whole point of a RCP average.  House effects is not constant (in 2012 Reuters/Ipsos and Economist/YouGov were very accurate while Rasmussen has a history of a GOP bias which now seems to be reversed.)  So the best way to cater for all of this is go for an average accepting that there will be some that would not be close to the pack for some period of time.

The latest Reuters/Ipsos tracking poll has Obama's approval rating at 68% among Democrats !

How friggin insane of a result is this ?

They should definitely review their methodology, because they are a joke pollster.
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« Reply #702 on: January 19, 2015, 04:37:02 pm »
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Obama's approval surges to 50-44 in WaPo poll: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/19/obamas-approval-rating-bump-by-the-numbers/

Looks like the people really love him once again!
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« Reply #703 on: January 19, 2015, 05:49:15 pm »
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Who knows, in 2016 Obama might be more of a boon than a drag on Hillary.
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« Reply #704 on: January 19, 2015, 10:46:06 pm »
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Obama's approval surges to 50-44 in WaPo poll: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2015/01/19/obamas-approval-rating-bump-by-the-numbers/

Looks like the people really love him once again!

Why does RCP show this poll saying its 47-48?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html
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« Reply #705 on: January 20, 2015, 09:54:22 am »
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They took the RV sample instead of the Adult sample into the average, despite the other 4 most recent polls in their average been Adult samples.
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« Reply #706 on: January 20, 2015, 07:01:47 pm »
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lol does RCP even try to be unbiased anymore ?
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« Reply #707 on: January 20, 2015, 07:58:12 pm »
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Remember, guys: He who feeds you, controls you.
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« Reply #708 on: January 21, 2015, 01:46:39 am »
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How long until we see the uniform SOTU +20 bump in the polls? Two? Three days?
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« Reply #709 on: January 21, 2015, 01:48:48 am »
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The American People gave the speech rave reviews:



I would not be surprised if his approval rating were above 60% by the weekend.
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« Reply #710 on: January 21, 2015, 01:49:49 am »
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It's time to repeal the 22nd Amendment and pave the way for Obama/Biden 2016.
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« Reply #711 on: January 21, 2015, 07:59:18 am »
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The American People gave the speech rave reviews:



I would not be surprised if his approval rating were above 60% by the weekend.
Keep in mind some of that is that Obama supporters are more likely to watch him give the state of the union than detractors.

How does this compare to previous Obama state of the unions?
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« Reply #712 on: January 23, 2015, 12:15:57 pm »
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Rasmussen is at 51-47 today.

Rasmussen's daily numbers are based on a 3-day average (2 days are now in after the speech).
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« Reply #713 on: January 23, 2015, 12:30:40 pm »
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Obama also jumped to 41% in the Reuters/Ipsos poll. This is the first time he's over 40% in that since last May.
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« Reply #714 on: January 23, 2015, 05:09:25 pm »
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To be sure, this is "favorability" and not approval... but the two are obviously related:



http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/WSJNBCpoll01192014.pdf
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« Reply #715 on: January 23, 2015, 08:43:03 pm »
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Even rightwing RCP can't hide Obama's surge; that Reuters poll is an extreme outlier (and lol Fox).
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« Reply #716 on: January 23, 2015, 09:12:20 pm »
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If you remove the two outliers (Reuters & Fox) then Obama's approval is tied 48.4-48.4. And that's with RCP unnecessarily using the more negative Obama approval numbers from the NBC/WSJ Poll.
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