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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2014, 05:42:47 pm »
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Iran - Republicans

Sure, we know how much the GOP loves Muslims and wants to make nice with Iran.   

Maybe if Rand Paul is nominated.
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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2014, 06:21:14 pm »
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Iran - Republicans

Sure, we know how much the GOP loves Muslims and wants to make nice with Iran.   

Maybe if Rand Paul is nominated.

I didn't say Iran was a perfect fit for the GOP, but they only have two choices. The typical beliefs of the average Iranian line up a lot better with the Republicans than with the Democrats.
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Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Given her name recognition and the fact that she's admittedly done a good enough job as SoS, this current frontrunner status is natural.

If she's the nominee, I'd probably vote for her, and she'd probably be at least an okay president.
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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2014, 07:57:33 am »
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Seriously, there are very few countries that would vote for the Republicans. In most countries, they would be a fringe far-right party. Like the FN in France or whatever.

This is absolutely correct. Republicans would win most, if not all, African countries. There might be a couple of outliers though, including South Africa. Republicans would also win most, possibly all, muslim countries. The only muslim countries in question would be the less staunchly so, like Bangladesh, Malaysia, Indonesia, Bosnia, Albania, Kosovo, Turkey. Asia would probably be a mixture of Democratic and Republican, yet with a slight edge for Democrats. Australia would probably be toss up, or close to it, yet all other Western countries, including Canada and basically the entire Latin America (countries like Jamaica and Haiti might perhaps go Republican at first) will be more or less heavily Democratic. In Western Europe, the only countries which would even consider voting Republican would be Malta, Greece and Italy. In Eastern Europe, a majority would vote Republican, but definitely not all. Estonia and Czech Republic almost certainly would vote Democratic for instance.
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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2014, 08:17:24 am »
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The idea that any European country would vote Republican is ludicrous.

Maybe Belarus.
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« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2014, 11:50:35 am »
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The idea that any European country would vote Republican is ludicrous.

Maybe Belarus.

If Republicans were to start making anti-gay rhetoric a big issue again, be certain that the vast majority of Eastern European countries would immediately vote Republican. There are some exceptions though, luckily. Like Estonia, Slovenia, Czech Republic, perhaps Slovakia and Croatia.
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« Reply #30 on: August 30, 2014, 05:31:27 pm »
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The Republicans probably wouldn't win any European countries but they wouldn't be quite as fringe as many seem to believe, take for example the fact that when John McCain was holding a Senate hearing for Obama's appointment to be ambassador to Norway he asked some questions that implied strong disapproval of the Progress Party, which was in government and for awhile was even the largest right wing party in Norway. The guy's bungling of the questions got more press, but regardless you have the party's 2008 candidate condemning a mainstream right wing party as too extreme.

The real reason the Republicans couldn't exist in any other country is they are too big and diverse. For example it's not too difficult to see both Merkel-esque asuterity forcing neoliberal supporters and anti-EU UKIP types as Republicans in the US and you can think of plenty of examples of Republicans that would be both, but both clearly can't be in the same party if those were the issues. The same is also true of the Democrats, who are probably the most ideologically diverse party in the world aside from parties that are really just essentially ideology-less political machines.
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« Reply #31 on: September 01, 2014, 08:38:36 am »
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Of course, in the real world, other countries care about American politics in large part because of US foreign policy.  The Republicans are the more nationalist of the two major parties, so they're less popular in other countries, just as nationalist parties in other countries are also less popular outside their home nation's borders.

If we're now imagining a scenario in which foreign countries can vote in US elections….how does that work?  Is the scenario that they're now US states, and so they have to live with whatever domestic policies the Democrats or Republicans they elect support?  In that case, they probably wouldn't care nearly as much about foreign policy as they do now.  The whole hypothetical doesn't really make much sense, so not sure how to answer.
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« Reply #32 on: September 01, 2014, 02:54:48 pm »
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I think most of the Middle East would vote Republican, as well as much of Eastern Europe and parts of Asia. Western Europe, South America, Africa, parts of Asia, and the remainder of North America would vote Dem.
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« Reply #33 on: Today at 06:16:09 pm »
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Iran - Republicans

Sure, we know how much the GOP loves Muslims and wants to make nice with Iran.   

Maybe if Rand Paul is nominated.

I didn't say Iran was a perfect fit for the GOP, but they only have two choices. The typical beliefs of the average Iranian line up a lot better with the Republicans than with the Democrats.

I have no idea what you think the "typical beliefs of the average Iranian" are but I suspect they'd be trumped by not wanting to be bombed or have economic sanctions against their country.
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« Reply #34 on: Today at 06:23:00 pm »
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Seriously, there are very few countries that would vote for the Republicans. In most countries, they would be a fringe far-right party. Like the FN in France or whatever.

As fringe as France's biggest party, you mean? Tongue
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