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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2014, 03:50:02 pm »
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Well, there won't be any gays in heaven because it's a sin, and there won't be any sinners in heaven. The current gay people will not be gay in heaven.


That's probably the closest thing I can say while still going with his idea of homosexuality is a sin. I myself don't actually believe gays are sinners by virtue of existence like this guy.
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2014, 04:00:17 pm »
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The problem with his statement is nobody truly knows where anybody else stands with their relationship with God.  A parent cannot absolutely know that his or her child will go to heaven, even though that child displays all the "signs" of a Christian.  A person cannot truly know their spouse's salvation status.  So, the point is that nobody can truly know if anybody else is going to heaven or not.  A tree will be known by its fruit, so you can have a pretty good idea, but you cannot know definitively.  So, no one can say with absolute certainty that homosexuals are automatically expelled from heaven.  To say anything either way is to attempt to speak for God, which is dangerous.  The only person you can be absolutely certain about is yourself.
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2014, 04:08:11 pm »
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The only person you can be absolutely certain about is yourself.

And from a Catholic perspective, I feel compelled to dispute this as well.
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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2014, 04:11:37 pm »
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There is no heaven. Nor any hell. So the whole discussion is pointless.
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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2014, 07:10:56 pm »
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Homosexuals, like all people, are certainly capable of going to Heaven if they repent and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior.

Unrepentant sinners don't go to Heaven; and thus, an unrepentant homosexual will indeed go to Hell, just like how an unrepentant adulterer or unrepentant fornicator (to name two examples) will go to Hell.


I have used the threat of Hell. On a Nazi. I also told him that he wouldn't like Heaven anyway -- too many Jews for his liking.

By the way -- what is so damnable about homosexuality itself?
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« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2014, 07:20:50 pm »
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There is no heaven. Nor any hell. So the whole discussion is pointless.

No heaven... No hell... Only "good enough". 
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« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2014, 07:41:23 pm »
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If the Christian version of God and Hell is true, I somehow doubt a loving and merciful God is going to go through your list, putting check marks next to all the good things, and then reach the "Is gay" or "Had gay sex" parts and give you 100 automatic death points, even if everything else is okay.
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« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2014, 08:01:38 pm »
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If the Christian version of God and Hell is true, I somehow doubt a loving and merciful God is going to go through your list, putting check marks next to all the good things, and then reach the "Is gay" or "Had gay sex" parts and give you 100 automatic death points, even if everything else is okay.

There are thousands of Christian denominations, thus there are thousands of versions of God and Hell, Some of which include one or even both of them not existing.
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« Reply #33 on: October 25, 2014, 08:34:21 pm »
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I would love to ask him if he believes judgmental people go to heaven.
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« Reply #34 on: October 25, 2014, 09:31:38 pm »
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who do I speak to sign up for gay heaven instead of steve king heaven?
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« Reply #35 on: October 25, 2014, 09:31:53 pm »
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What gets me is that aren't Protestants supposed to believe in "faith, not works?"
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« Reply #36 on: October 25, 2014, 09:33:35 pm »
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The only person you can be absolutely certain about is yourself.

And from a Catholic perspective, I feel compelled to dispute this as well.

Yes. Delusion is hardly a quality we'd want incentivized.
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« Reply #37 on: October 25, 2014, 10:28:14 pm »

What gets me is that aren't Protestants supposed to believe in "faith, not works?"

Quote from: James 2:14-17 (NASB)
14 What use is it, (my brethren, if someone says he has faith but he has no works? Can that faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is without clothing and in need of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, ďGo in peace, be warmed and be filled,Ē and yet you do not give them what is necessary for their body, what use is that? 17 Even so faith, if it has no works, is dead, being by itself.

The primary difference between Protestant and Catholic (at least as of the time of the Reformation) theology concerning works is the Catholicism views works as a means by which one earns salvation while Protestantism views works as evidence of the faith one has in salvation.  So it's perfectly consistent for a Protestant who thinks that homosexuality is a sin would expect that a faithful homosexual Christian would abstain from such activity to the best of eir ability.
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« Reply #38 on: October 25, 2014, 10:42:35 pm »

Hey, they call it Devil's Food cake for a reason. When this gay atheist dies and goes to hell, at least the food will be good.

Actually, the reason is that before the advent of Dutch processed cocoa, if you used natural cocoa, the acidity of the other ingredients would naturally lead to chocolate cake being red, which is popularly supposed to be the devil's color.  Originally devil's food and red velvet were the same cake, but the former switched to Dutch process cocoa and the latter started adding red food coloring to accentuate the color contrast.
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« Reply #39 on: October 25, 2014, 10:51:36 pm »

If I find myself in hell for being myself then at least my husband will be there. Spending an eternity without him would be a real hell.
If there be a Hell where people are kept eternally, I rather doubt they'll have the choice of who to spend it with.  Actually, if for whatever reason you do end up in Hell, I think you'd be much likelier to be bunking with Congressman King than with your husband.
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« Reply #40 on: Today at 02:59:38 am »
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Why hasn't Steve King run in a statewide election yet?
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« Reply #41 on: Today at 03:45:54 am »
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There is something fundamentally wrong with the great Stephen King having to share his name with such a waste of oxygen.
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