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« Reply #375 on: September 05, 2012, 10:35:00 pm »
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I know Iíll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"


Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.

Not hugely familiar with Isaiah, are we?

I was at church less than nine hours ago, receiving communion like a good Christian. Give it a rest.

Episcopalians have Wednesday afternoon services? I've heard of Wednesday night (though usually from evangelical churches) but Wednesday afternoon is a little odd.
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« Reply #376 on: September 05, 2012, 10:46:40 pm »
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I know Iíll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"


Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.

Not hugely familiar with Isaiah, are we?

I was at church less than nine hours ago, receiving communion like a good Christian. Give it a rest.

Episcopalians have Wednesday afternoon services? I've heard of Wednesday night (though usually from evangelical churches) but Wednesday afternoon is a little odd.

My church does (Rite I Eucharist with healing prayer). I don't believe it's any sort of standard.
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« Reply #377 on: September 05, 2012, 10:54:16 pm »
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I know Iíll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"


Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.

Not hugely familiar with Isaiah, are we?

I was at church less than nine hours ago, receiving communion like a good Christian. Give it a rest.

Episcopalians have Wednesday afternoon services? I've heard of Wednesday night (though usually from evangelical churches) but Wednesday afternoon is a little odd.

My church does (Rite I Eucharist with healing prayer). I don't believe it's any sort of standard.

Your church is charismatic now? Wink
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« Reply #378 on: September 06, 2012, 02:58:49 am »
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« Reply #379 on: September 06, 2012, 06:26:51 am »
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I know Iíll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"


Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.


A poster with a reference to an 80's movie as a username rocking Old Testament quotes in opposition to gay marriage? We've never seen that before.

don't forget about the lyrics in the sig from a 70's hit....but, in any case, the following quote is from the New Testament, you twit.  Wink

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« Reply #380 on: September 06, 2012, 05:24:26 pm »
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I know I’ll probably be labeled unChristian for quoting this person, but here goes:

"I have come to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled!"


Oh, that quote in and of itself is plenty Christian (obviously), it's just completely inappropriate and frankly a little nonsensical in this context.

Yeah, right...Tell that to the twin cities (mentioned numerous times by whom we've been referring) that once stood near Zoar on the plain.  But, referring to such a story is no doubt also ignorant and unChristian of me.  Might, was well color me a throwback and be done with it...and just for grins: drag my mother through the mud, slap my kids, and kick my dog while you're at it.

Not hugely familiar with Isaiah, are we?

I was at church less than nine hours ago, receiving communion like a good Christian. Give it a rest.

Episcopalians have Wednesday afternoon services? I've heard of Wednesday night (though usually from evangelical churches) but Wednesday afternoon is a little odd.

My church does (Rite I Eucharist with healing prayer). I don't believe it's any sort of standard.

Your church is charismatic now? Wink

We use a term that charismatic churches use as a more generic equivalent to the technical term 'Anointing of the Sick', which I do regularly because I'm of delicate physical as well as mental constitution. Calling Anointing of the Sick 'healing prayer' is probably the single most low-church thing we do.
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« Reply #381 on: September 07, 2012, 09:14:53 pm »
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« Reply #382 on: September 13, 2012, 09:25:08 pm »
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September 2012 Minnesota poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 43%
Illegal .............................................................. 46%
Not sure .......................................................... 11%

Should the Minnesota Constitution be
amended to provide that only a union of one
man and one woman shall be valid or
recognized as a marriage in Minnesota?

Yes - 48%
No - 47%
Not sure - 5%
Won't vote on the amendment - 0%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_MN_912121.pdf

MN PPP results from late May/early June 2012: 47% legal, 42% illegal, 11% not sure
MN PPP results from January 2012: 43% legal, 47% illegal, 10% not sure
MN PPP results from May 2011: 46% legal, 45% illegal, 9% not sure

September 2012 poll on the Washington referendum:

A new law passed by the legislature would allow same-sex couples to marry in Washington state. Should this law be approved? Or rejected?

Approved - 56%
Rejected - 38%
Not sure - 6%

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=331e05a7-633b-4775-b354-821f378f63f7

Up from 50%/43%/7% in June: http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=2786ebbd-3348-4795-b0a8-0ee124a9707d



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Rhode Island had its primaries on Tuesday and things didn't change much. Delaware will probably beat them to it at this rate.

http://blog.thephoenix.com/BLOGS/notfornothing/archive/2012/09/11/tough-night-for-gay-marriage-supporters.aspx

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Tonight's Democratic primaries were not kind to gay marriage supporters, who claimed just one of six key state senate races. Pro-same sex nuptials candidate Adam Satchell scored a decisive victory over Senator Michael Pinga. But five other gay marriage backers - David Gorman, Gene Dyszlewski, Laura Pisaturo, Lewis Pryeor, and Robert DaSilva - lost.

There will be opportunities for a couple of pick-ups in the general election come November. But advocates will be playing defense in a few places, too.

After tonight, then, it is hard to see a significant change in the balance of power in a state senate where about half of current members are opposed to gay marriage, a third are in support, and the rest are in the toss-up category, according to a Phoenix analysis.
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« Reply #383 on: September 23, 2012, 06:47:44 am »
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A new Mason-Dixon poll in Minnesota for the "Star Tribune" shows the following:

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The increasingly costly and bitter fight over a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage is a statistical dead heat, according to a new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll.

Six weeks before Election Day, slightly more Minnesotans favor the amendment than oppose it, but that support also falls just short of the 50 percent needed to pass the measure.

Among likely voters, 49 percent would approve constitutional language that defines marriage as only the union of a man and woman. Another 47 percent oppose the measure, while 4 percent are undecided. Minnesota law requires any change to the Constitution to capture a majority of all ballots cast. That means a voter who skips the question is counted as a no vote.

While passions for and against a traditional definition of marriage run strong, the poll also shows that attitudes are shifting when it comes to civil unions.

The poll shows overwhelming support for civil unions that would offer gay and lesbian couples the same legal rights as marriage. Overall, 68 percent of respondents would support civil unions while only 23 percent would oppose them. The support cuts across every demographic and party line. The poll interviewed 800 likely voters between Sept. 17 and 19 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/170854241.html
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« Reply #384 on: September 23, 2012, 01:28:43 pm »
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September 2012 Marquette Law School Wisconsin Poll

"Q31: Which comes closes to your view? Gay couples should be allowed to legally marry? Or, Gay couples should be allowed to form civil unions but not legally marry? Or, There should be no legal recognition of a gay coupleís relationship."

Allowed to legally marry - 48%
Civil unions - 25%
No legal recognition - 21%
Don't know - 4%
Refused - 2%

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/MLSP11_Toplines.pdf
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« Reply #385 on: September 23, 2012, 01:30:53 pm »
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A new Mason-Dixon poll in Minnesota for the "Star Tribune" shows the following:

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The increasingly costly and bitter fight over a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage is a statistical dead heat, according to a new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll.

Six weeks before Election Day, slightly more Minnesotans favor the amendment than oppose it, but that support also falls just short of the 50 percent needed to pass the measure.

Among likely voters, 49 percent would approve constitutional language that defines marriage as only the union of a man and woman. Another 47 percent oppose the measure, while 4 percent are undecided. Minnesota law requires any change to the Constitution to capture a majority of all ballots cast. That means a voter who skips the question is counted as a no vote.

While passions for and against a traditional definition of marriage run strong, the poll also shows that attitudes are shifting when it comes to civil unions.

The poll shows overwhelming support for civil unions that would offer gay and lesbian couples the same legal rights as marriage. Overall, 68 percent of respondents would support civil unions while only 23 percent would oppose them. The support cuts across every demographic and party line. The poll interviewed 800 likely voters between Sept. 17 and 19 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/170854241.html

If the Democrats get the legislature back, they should try to push for civil union recognition because it looks like there is nothing in the constitutional amendment that prevents that.
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« Reply #386 on: September 23, 2012, 01:40:08 pm »
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Maybe there's still some hope left for the otherwise progressive Minnesota ...

(But for it to pass, gay marriage would probably have to lead by 5-10 in the pre election polls, because of the "Gay Bradley Effect")
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« Reply #387 on: September 23, 2012, 02:51:31 pm »
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The increasingly costly and bitter fight over a constitutional amendment to ban same-sex marriage is a statistical dead heat, according to a new Star Tribune Minnesota Poll.

Six weeks before Election Day, slightly more Minnesotans favor the amendment than oppose it, but that support also falls just short of the 50 percent needed to pass the measure.

Among likely voters, 49 percent would approve constitutional language that defines marriage as only the union of a man and woman. Another 47 percent oppose the measure, while 4 percent are undecided. Minnesota law requires any change to the Constitution to capture a majority of all ballots cast. That means a voter who skips the question is counted as a no vote.

While passions for and against a traditional definition of marriage run strong, the poll also shows that attitudes are shifting when it comes to civil unions.

The poll shows overwhelming support for civil unions that would offer gay and lesbian couples the same legal rights as marriage. Overall, 68 percent of respondents would support civil unions while only 23 percent would oppose them. The support cuts across every demographic and party line. The poll interviewed 800 likely voters between Sept. 17 and 19 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

http://www.startribune.com/politics/statelocal/170854241.html

If the Democrats get the legislature back, they should try to push for civil union recognition because it looks like there is nothing in the constitutional amendment that prevents that.

Yeah; it would never pass if it included anything but the weakest possible ban.  (Not that it's not still an awful thing to pass, but it could be worse Tongue)
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« Reply #388 on: September 25, 2012, 04:57:13 pm »

I've always felt that the best tactic for gay marriage supporters is to get civil unions in place within their state, then go for marriage rights a few years down the road. "The sky will fall" argument/fear of the unknown is the strongest weapon the opponents have (see e.g. the Maine referendum where opponents ran a convincing ad campaign claiming a yes vote wouild require homosexuality to be taught in elementary schools). Civil Unions are much more popular, and after the world doesn't go to hell in a handbasket after they're instituted the concept of allowing actual bona-fide marriage becomes far more palatable to middle-aged and older swing voters.
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« Reply #389 on: September 25, 2012, 09:59:54 pm »
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September 2012 Maine poll:

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal ............................................................... 52%
Illegal .............................................................. 40%
Not sure .......................................................... 8%

Question 1 would allow the State of Maine to
issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples.
If the election was today, would you vote yes or
no on question 1?

Yes - 52%
No - 44%
Not sure - 4%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2011/PPP_Release_ME_92012.pdf

ME PPP results from March 2012: 54% legal, 41% illegal, 5% not sure
ME PPP results from October 2011: 51% legal, 42% illegal, 8% not sure
ME PPP results from March 2011: 47% legal, 45% illegal, 8% not sure

September 2012 poll on the Washington referendum #2:

http://blog.seattlepi.com/seattlepolitics/2012/09/17/gay-marriage-pot-legalization-gain-elway-poll/

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Referendum 74, approving same-sex marriage, is ahead 52-40 percent with 8 percent undecided.  Its lead has edged up from 49-39 percent in July.

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September 2012 Marquette Law School Wisconsin Poll

"Q31: Which comes closes to your view? Gay couples should be allowed to legally marry? Or, Gay couples should be allowed to form civil unions but not legally marry? Or, There should be no legal recognition of a gay coupleís relationship."

Allowed to legally marry - 48%
Civil unions - 25%
No legal recognition - 21%
Don't know - 4%
Refused - 2%

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/MLSP11_Toplines.pdf

Wow, those numbers look a little too good.
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« Reply #390 on: September 26, 2012, 01:18:26 am »
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Maybe there's still some hope left for the otherwise progressive Minnesota ...

(But for it to pass, gay marriage would probably have to lead by 5-10 in the pre election polls, because of the "Gay Bradley Effect")

Unlike California, Minnesota requires 50% of all ballots vote for an amendment for it to pass. 2.48% of Californians abstained on Prop. 8.
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Do you approve or disapprove of Governor John Hickenlooperís job performance?

Approve................. 54%
Disapprove............ 24%

Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Mark Udall's job performance?

Approve .................45%
Disapprove.............34%

Do you approve or disapprove of Senator Michael Bennet's job performance?

Approve .................44%
Disapprove.............36%

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Ken Buck?

Favorable........................................................ 25%
Unfavorable .................................................... 46%

If you could do last fallís election for US Senate over again, would you vote for Democrat Michael Bennet or Republican Ken Buck?

Michael Bennet ............................................... 55%
Ken Buck ........................................................ 38%

Do you think same-sex marriage should be legal or illegal?

Legal............................................................... 45%
Illegal .............................................................. 45%

Which of the following best describes your opinion on gay marriage: gay couples should be allowed to legally marry, or gay couples should be allowed to form civil unions but not legally marry, or there should be no legal recognition of a gay couple's relationship?

Gay couples should be allowed to legally marry .................................................40%
Gay couples should be allowed to form civil unions but not marry ......................31%
There should be no legal recognition of a gay couple's relationship ...................27%

If there was an election for Congress today, would you vote for the Democratic or Republican candidate from your district?

Democratic candidate ..................................... 45%
Republican candidate ..................................... 40%

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of the Tea Party?

Favorable........................................................ 38%
Unfavorable .................................................... 49%

Do you think prostitution should be legal or illegal?

Legal............................................................... 32%
Illegal .............................................................. 56%

Do you think marijuana usage should be legal or illegal?

Legal............................................................... 51%
Illegal .............................................................. 38%

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Scott McInnis?

Favorable........................................................ 14%
Unfavorable .................................................... 31%

Do you have a favorable or unfavorable opinion of Tom Tancredo?

Favorable........................................................ 30%
Unfavorable .................................................... 43%

Would you support or oppose raising the income tax in Colorado from 4.63% to 5% and the sales tax from 2.9% to 3.0% in order to increase funding for public education?

Support ........................................................... 45%
Oppose ........................................................... 47%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_CO_0811925.pdf

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« Reply #393 on: September 29, 2012, 11:48:12 pm »
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Gay Marriage heading for a blow-out victory in Maine:

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http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/king-by-less_-obama-by-more_2012-09-29.html
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« Reply #394 on: September 30, 2012, 10:36:12 am »
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Neat, a recent (September 2012) Illinois poll: http://capitolfax.com/2012/09/26/more-illinoisans-favor-gay-marriage-now-than-two-years-ago/

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And hereís another result from the 2012 Paul Simon Public Policy Institute pollÖ

Which of the following three statements comes closest to your position on the legal rights of gay and lesbian couples in Illinois?

Gay/lesbian couples should be allowed to legally marry - 43.6%
Gay/lesbian couples should be allowed to form civil unions - 31.8%
There should be no legal recognition of relationships between gay and lesbian couples - 20.2%
Other/ Donít know - 4.4%

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Compare those results to how the numbers looked two years ago, in the 2010 Paul Simon Public Policy Institute pollÖ

Which of the following three statements comes closest to your position on the legal rights of gay and lesbian couples in Illinois?

Gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to legally marry - 33.6%
Gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to form civil unions, which would give them some legal rights - 33.9%
There should be no legal recognition of relationships between gay and lesbian couples - 26.5%
Other/Donít know - 6.0%
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« Reply #395 on: September 30, 2012, 10:47:58 am »
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http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/king-by-less_-obama-by-more_2012-09-29.html

I will believe it when I see it... let's hope that happens on Election Day after the NOMmers run their ads with little children coming home and telling their parents they learned about sodomy in school and want to become gay.
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SSM leads 49-39 in a new MD poll from the Baltimore Sun:

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-09-29/news/bs-md-poll-20120929_1_opinionworks-new-baltimore-sun-poll-voter-turnout
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SSM leads by 56-36 in Rhode Island:

http://www.wpri.com/generic/elections/polls/campaign-2012-exclusive-poll-results-sept-2012?chartid=21
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Gay Marriage heading for a blow-out victory in Maine:

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http://www.onlinesentinel.com/news/king-by-less_-obama-by-more_2012-09-29.html

I will believe it when I see it... let's hope that happens on Election Day after the NOMmers run their ads with little children coming home and telling their parents they learned about sodomy in school and want to become gay.

Mommy! Today in class I learned that I can be a princess and marry another boy!
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« Reply #399 on: October 07, 2012, 01:27:28 am »
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Colorado (Univ. of Denver/Selzer):

8. Which best represents your view on same-sex relationships:

49% The law should allow same-sex couples to marry
24% The law should allow same-sex couples to form civil unions, but not marry
23% The law should not recognize same-sex relationships
  4% Not sure

http://debate2012.du.edu/media/documents/coloradovoterspoll.pdf
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