Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws

[pbrower2a]

June 26-29, 2014
Survey of 664 Louisiana voters

information@publicpolicypolling.com / 888 621-6988

Q13
Do you think same-sex marriage should be
allowed in Louisiana, or not?
32%
Think it should be allowed
...............................
55%
Think it should not be
......................................
13%
Not sure
.......................................................

For support and legality of same-sex marriage.

White -- same-sex marriage legal or has at the least been enacted. No further distinction.
Orange -- same-sex marriage ban ruled void by a judge, but subject to a legal appeal and assumed unpopular
Dark blue -- same-sex marriage ban ruled void by a judge, but subject to a legal appeal and assumed popular enough to pass in a popular vote

Tan -- a state's appeal vacated at the Federal District Court, next step the US Supreme Court

Green -- current same-sex marriage not legal, but more popular than unpopular or plurality support for legalization of SSM


65% or higher -- deep green (90% saturation)
60.0 - 64.9%  -- dark green  (70% saturation)
55.0 - 59.9%  -- medium green (50% saturation)
50.0 - 54.6% --  light green (30% saturation)
below 50% but positive -- aqua (20% saturation)

tie -- yellow

Red -- opposition to SSM stronger than support.

above 45.0% but negative -- hot pink (30% saturation)
40.0 - 44.9% -- medium red (50% saturation)
35.0 - 39.9%  -- ruby (60% saturation)
30.0 - 34.9%  -- maroon (70% saturation)
under 30% -- deep red  (90% saturation)

[pbrower2a]

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Utah is going directly to the nation's highest court to challenge an appellate ruling that gay couples have a constitutional right to marry, the state attorney general's office announced Wednesday.

If the U.S. Supreme court decides to take the case, it will be the first time the top court considers gay marriage since justices last year struck down part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act.

"It is a milestone that when the Supreme Court reconvenes in October, there will be at least one (gay marriage) petition pending," said Jon Davidson, director of Lambda Legal, which pursues litigation on LGBT issues nationwide.

The high court is under no obligation to the take the case, and it could wait for rulings from one or more of the five other appellate courts with gay marriage cases pending, legal scholars say.

But legal experts predict the nation's top court will consider a gay marriage case sometime in 2015 or later.

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The 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals heard arguments about Virginia's ban in early May, and a ruling is expected soon. Arguments are scheduled for August and September in two different courts for cases out of Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky, Tennessee, Nevada and Idaho.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/09/utah-gay-marriage_n_5571647.html

[pbrower2a]

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http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_26118709/adams-judge-tosses-colorado-gay-marriage-ban-but

[pbrower2a]

Colorado.

For support and legality of same-sex marriage.

White -- same-sex marriage legal or has at the least been enacted. No further distinction.
Orange -- same-sex marriage ban ruled void by a judge, but subject to a legal appeal and assumed unpopular
Dark blue -- same-sex marriage ban ruled void by a judge, but subject to a legal appeal and assumed popular enough to pass in a popular vote

Tan -- a state's appeal vacated at the Federal District Court, next step the US Supreme Court

Green -- current same-sex marriage not legal, but more popular than unpopular or plurality support for legalization of SSM


65% or higher -- deep green (90% saturation)
60.0 - 64.9%  -- dark green  (70% saturation)
55.0 - 59.9%  -- medium green (50% saturation)
50.0 - 54.6% --  light green (30% saturation)
below 50% but positive -- aqua (20% saturation)

tie -- yellow

Red -- opposition to SSM stronger than support.

above 45.0% but negative -- hot pink (30% saturation)
40.0 - 44.9% -- medium red (50% saturation)
35.0 - 39.9%  -- ruby (60% saturation)
30.0 - 34.9%  -- maroon (70% saturation)
under 30% -- deep red  (90% saturation)

[Badger]

Pbrower, I genuinely appriciate the work you do on these maps, but they're completely unintelligible.

And I still have no clue what 'saturation' means.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Pbrower, I genuinely appreciate the work you do on these maps, but they're completely unintelligible.

Agreed.  He means well, but he's trying to compile too much info into a single map.

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It just refers to what decile would be indicated if red and green were simply ordinary candidates in a ordinary map.  We haven't simply used them all as some of choices are difficult to distinguish from each other.

[user12345]

Pbrower, I genuinely appriciate the work you do on these maps, but they're completely unintelligible.

And I still have no clue what 'saturation' means.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

I genuinely appreciate the work you do on these maps, but they're completely unintelligible. But I do know what 'saturation' means.

[pbrower2a]

"Saturation" means intensity or darkness of color."1" is practically white; "2" and "3" are pastel shades; "4", "5", and "6" are middling shades; "7", "8", and "9" are dark to nearly-black.

For "no color" (gray) no distinction is possible.     

[pbrower2a]

Pbrower, I genuinely appriciate the work you do on these maps, but they're completely unintelligible.

1. Legality of SSM is white.  No further distinction in approval or disapproval of SSM is shown. Local officials are required to accept applications for SSM for adults unless there is some obvious bar as insanity or incestuousness.

This does not mean solely that places under federal jurisdiction within a state (such as military bases or Indian reservations) recognize SSM. If Arizona state law prohibits SSM but Indian reservations or military bases allow SSM in accordance with federal law, then the polling applies to the state.

A state could go to some other color from white if the state outlaws SSM through legislation or initiative/referendum -- but that is highly unlikely.

2. If SSM is not legal, then a green shade applies to that state should there be plurality support of SSM. More intense shades imply stronger approval. A red shade applies to any state in which extant polling shows that SSM has greater disapproval than approval, more intense shades indicating stronger disapproval. Yellow is for a tie.

The rationale of the distinction  is that states in green could approve same-sex marriage either through legislation or initiative/referendum -- which would not happen in a state in which SSM has stronger disapproval than approval. We may see 'evolution' in the process, which is possible.

3. Blue and orange are for legal limbo. The decision is likely to be made in state or federal courts. Blue (Colorado) indicates that there is an appeal, but it is presumed that SSM could be approved by legislation or referendum before an appeal is completed. Orange indicates that legalization is unlikely based upon the most recent polls (Arkansas) or what I reasonably assume (Idaho). Tan indicates that the appeal is going to the US Supreme Court, whose decision is definitive no matter what polls indicate.

4. It all goes white if some ruling analogous to Loving v. Virginia is made by the US Supreme Court. The Supreme Court does not heed polls.       

[Nutmeg]

Might I humbly suggest just tracking popularity/approval of same-sex marriage by state?

Legality of same-sex marriage, or court rulings that might reflect this legality, could be considered a separate issue and included on a map of "legal status of same-sex marriage." This would really simplify the map. Plus it would be interesting to know, say, whether Iowans have come around to the policies their state supreme court imposed on them, or whether they continue to resist.

[pbrower2a]

Might I humbly suggest just tracking popularity/approval of same-sex marriage by state?

Legality of same-sex marriage, or court rulings that might reflect this legality, could be considered a separate issue and included on a map of "legal status of same-sex marriage." This would really simplify the map. Plus it would be interesting to know, say, whether Iowans have come around to the policies their state supreme court imposed on them, or whether they continue to resist.

You are welcome to start your 'rival' map.

[Badger]

Might I humbly suggest just tracking popularity/approval of same-sex marriage by state?

Legality of same-sex marriage, or court rulings that might reflect this legality, could be considered a separate issue and included on a map of "legal status of same-sex marriage." This would really simplify the map. Plus it would be interesting to know, say, whether Iowans have come around to the policies their state supreme court imposed on them, or whether they continue to resist.

You are welcome to start your 'rival' map.

Actually pbrower, Nutmeg's suggestion is a great one I sincerely hope you'll adopt.

And ftr, I get the idea that 'saturation' means intensity of color (I.e. support), but for purposes of the maps, again, it's completely unintelligible.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Pbrower's maps make way more sense if you're messed up on cat drugs.

[Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook]

Pbrower's maps make way more sense if you read the rest of the post.

Fixed.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Pbrower's maps make way more sense if you read the rest of the post.

Fixed.

What cat drugs are you on? Did you get them directly from Pbrower? Or do you know a shady vet?

Please answer my questions in map form using as many colors as humanly possible.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Might I humbly suggest just tracking popularity/approval of same-sex marriage by state?

Legality of same-sex marriage, or court rulings that might reflect this legality, could be considered a separate issue and included on a map of "legal status of same-sex marriage." This would really simplify the map. Plus it would be interesting to know, say, whether Iowans have come around to the policies their state supreme court imposed on them, or whether they continue to resist.

Wikipedia has one:

[Badger]

Pbrower, I genuinely appriciate the work you do on these maps, but they're completely unintelligible.

1. Legality of SSM is white.  No further distinction in approval or disapproval of SSM is shown. Local officials are required to accept applications for SSM for adults unless there is some obvious bar as insanity or incestuousness.

This does not mean solely that places under federal jurisdiction within a state (such as military bases or Indian reservations) recognize SSM. If Arizona state law prohibits SSM but Indian reservations or military bases allow SSM in accordance with federal law, then the polling applies to the state.

A state could go to some other color from white if the state outlaws SSM through legislation or initiative/referendum -- but that is highly unlikely.

2. If SSM is not legal, then a green shade applies to that state should there be plurality support of SSM. More intense shades imply stronger approval. A red shade applies to any state in which extant polling shows that SSM has greater disapproval than approval, more intense shades indicating stronger disapproval. Yellow is for a tie.

The rationale of the distinction  is that states in green could approve same-sex marriage either through legislation or initiative/referendum -- which would not happen in a state in which SSM has stronger disapproval than approval. We may see 'evolution' in the process, which is possible.

3. Blue and orange are for legal limbo. The decision is likely to be made in state or federal courts. Blue (Colorado) indicates that there is an appeal, but it is presumed that SSM could be approved by legislation or referendum before an appeal is completed. Orange indicates that legalization is unlikely based upon the most recent polls (Arkansas) or what I reasonably assume (Idaho). Tan indicates that the appeal is going to the US Supreme Court, whose decision is definitive no matter what polls indicate.

4. It all goes white if some ruling analogous to Loving v. Virginia is made by the US Supreme Court. The Supreme Court does not heed polls.        

Pbrower, if you need four paragraphs and about a page of single-spaced text to explain the key to your maps, they're WAY too busy.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Wikipedia's maps are far easier to understand.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

This thread isn't even readable anymore.

This is the current map without the hullaballoo-

For support and legality of same-sex marriage.

White -- same-sex marriage legal or has at the least been enacted. No further distinction.

Green -- same-sex marriage not legal, but more popular than unpopular or plurality support for legalization of SSM

65% or higher -- deep green (90% saturation)
60.0 - 64.9%  -- dark green  (70% saturation)
55.0 - 59.9%  -- medium green (50% saturation)
50.0 - 54.6% --  light green (30% saturation)
below 50% but positive -- aqua (20% saturation)

tie -- yellow

above 45.0% but negative -- hot pink (30% saturation)
40.0 - 44.9% -- medium red (50% saturation)
35.0 - 39.9%  -- ruby (60% saturation)
30.0 - 34.9%  -- maroon (70% saturation)
under 30% -- deep red  (90% saturation)

[SNJ1985]

There's one law that no federal judge will EVER be able to overturn...and that's God's law.

[Hifly]

There's one law that no federal judge will EVER be able to overturn...and that's God's law.

That's what Democratic State Rep. Mary Flowers from Chicago emphasised during the debate in the Illinois State House last year but it's not really a valid argument in a secular society.

[Joe Republic]

There's one law that no federal judge will EVER be able to overturn...and that's God's law.

That's what Democratic State Rep. Mary Flowers from Chicago emphasised during the debate in the Illinois State House last year but it's not really a valid argument in a secular society.

Precisely.

[SNJ1985]

Just because the U.S. is currently a secular society doesn't mean it should be.

[Badger]

Just because the U.S. is currently a secular society doesn't mean it should be.

Speaking as a consistory member of a Christian denomination that approves of SSM,   you post is a great example of why our government should be secular while our society need not be. Secular government is a good way of keeping those like you with a 'my Father in heaven can lick your Father in heaven' mentality from forcing the particulars of your religious worship down religious minorities' throats in the form of statute.

Keep your version of 'God's law' for your own denomination and congregation, thank yoy; the Crusades ended centuries ago.