Polls on Same-Sex Marriage State Laws

[eric82oslo]

That one looks a lot more believable than the other one.

But it's very interesting despite being overwhelmingly against SSM, it's a tie on whether or not they think SSM from other states should be recognized there. That could end up being a very easy way to backdoor legalize SSM nationwide. Ex: "Utah doesn't have to perform it, but must recognize". Two guys or gals go out to California, get married, come back, and then they're married in Utah as well.

Good point. Didn't think of that option before.

[eric82oslo]

Except for New Mexico, every state with SSM voted for Kerry in 2004. Wisconsin and Michigan seem to be the only Kerry states without it.

Wisconsin currently has it in 60 out 72 counties. But I imagine van hollen will eventually get a stay.

It's up to each county to decide whether they want same sex marriage or not?

[eric82oslo]

I'm not sure why they didn't try to put it on the ballot in Colorado. Of any state currently without marriage equality, I think Colorado would be the best bet for it passing via ballot initiative (expect perhaps Nevada, where it can't be legalized until 2016).

Why it can't be legalized in Nevada until 2016?

[eric82oslo]

Then there are just five more states to go.

[eric82oslo]

62% of Americans would not be strongly upset to find that a son or daughter is homosexual.  

Only 62% would not be strongly upset? That's horrible numbers. Disgusting actually. And if anything these are underestimations as most respondents want to appear as desirable and politically correct as possible. Perhaps the real world is closer to 50/50. With 50% only being moderately upset (or not at all) and 50% being either strongly or extremely strongly upset. Like those who cut off all contact with their child after learning such. Unfortunately that happens with a lot more people than we like to think about. That's what religion does with people... Only religion can make people cut contact with their own child(ren).

[eric82oslo]

Religion? No -- it is a primal concern about passing down genes, something deep in the irrational subconscious.

The only gays I know or have heard about whose parents have cut off contact with them, have all had deeply religious parents.

[eric82oslo]

That 60% number seems to be for Republican voters actually, at least according to Washington Post. Which makes more sense to me. Here are the breakdowns along party line.

Republican voters:
Percentage being upset or very upset: 60%
Percentage not being very upset or not at all: 38%

Democratic voters:
Percentage being upset or very upset: 28%
Percentage not being very upset or not at all: 70%

Independent voters:
Percentage being upset or very upset: 31%
Percentage not being very upset or not at all: 67%

Meaning that Democratic and independent voters have almost exactly the same attitude towards the issue.

"While a 1985 poll for the Los Angeles Times showed that 89 percent of Americans said they would be upset -- including 64 percent being "very upset" -- today, 35 percent say they would be upset, and only 12 percent say "very upset." "

Here's the WP article: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/08/18/republicans-are-ok-with-voting-for-gay-candidates-they-are-less-ok-with-their-children-being-gay/

[eric82oslo]

The 7 missing pieces thus would become:

Alabama: Deep red
Idaho: Red
Oklahoma: Red
Missouri: Light red
Nebraska: Light red
South Dakota: Toss up
North Dakota: Green

Better than I had expected.

[eric82oslo]

How come people in New Hampshire are so much more pro gay marriage than in Maine? (Seems like Rick Santorum won't do very well in NH this time around btw.)

And 40% difference between California and Texas. That's a lot.

Also lol at Utah showing Nevada the way.

Who would have thought that North Dakota would be the most average state on this issue.

Yey to Sarah Palin's Alaska being 5% more pro than the national average!

[eric82oslo]

Get ready to pinkify Arizona as well.

[eric82oslo]

A Court has just uphold the 4 same sex marriage bans in Michigan, Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee!
Which basically means that in the next step this will be headed to the Supreme Court.

http://us.cnn.com/2014/11/06/us/same-sex-marriage-ruling/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[eric82oslo]

35 down, 15 to go? Already? Wow.

Edit: Already 36 with South Carolina! How embarrassing that Florida is one of the 14 still left.