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June 23, 2011, 08:25:36 am »
Yah, the sharp right wing trend (and population growth) in Almeria and points north - outside this map - is one of the most salient features of Spain's electoral geography post 75.
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Quote from: Jakob Bronsky on June 23, 2011, 08:25:36 am
Yah, the sharp right wing trend (and population growth) in Almeria and points north - outside this map - is one of the most salient features of Spain's electoral geography post 75.
Ah, I'd always wondered the reason for that. Had a rough idea, but not the specifics (and wouldn't have guessed anything to do with agriculture).
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Thanks Hash for teaching us by these wonderful maps
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June 23, 2011, 09:37:56 am »
Random stuff on Almeria:
The technique envolves blowing the surface out, bringing soil, building a short wall around it and covering it (to create a greenhouse-like environment), a tunnel for water, laying manure over it (for heat or something) and then a bunch of sand. Fruits of various kind are grown and often come out ahead of schedule. It increasingly requires immigrants, given that Spaniards don't want to do it anymore. It also creates a bunch of environmental (water) problems.
Most of it is concentrated around El Ejido in the Campo de Dalias but also east of Almeria in the Campos de Nijar. Sure you have some old people dying there, but if you look at satellite images you see the huge amount of greenhouses:
http://maps.google.com/?ll=36.726227,-2.755165&spn=0.181339,0.363579&t=h&z=12
Or in Streetview:
http://maps.google.com/?ll=36.735177,-2.766348&spn=0,0.090895&t=h&z=14&layer=c&cbll=36.735177,-2.766348&panoid=Xrpz7nYjm232CKH9tfHEdQ&cbp=12,84.99,,0,1.44
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20:12 oakvale Taylor Swift's 22 was originally titled 75 in reference to her ex Flanby's proposed tax rate
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August 21, 2011, 06:55:15 pm »
Random maps from CIS polls (2010) for each CCAA:
% who say they identify only as region x or more as region x than Spanish (eg: only Basque + more Basque than Spanish)
the correlation between this metric and the PP vote 2008 is -0.79.
% of self-id Catholics and other faiths (such as Muslims) who go to church more than once a week or every Sunday (Melilla has 42% claiming other faiths eg Muslim, 40% claiming Catholics. both are heavily devout). The Canaries are really not into church, only 9.6%.
% saying their region should have more autonomy
difference between % who say they identify only as region x or more as region x than Spanish AND % who say they identify only as Spanish or more Spanish than region x. Greener means more heavily regional-identification, oranger means more heavily Spanish.
This is all polling data, so big MOE and all, but data seems pretty accurate (except Navarre, which is abnormaly low on Catholics and abnormaly left-wing in self-id).
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August 21, 2011, 09:59:02 pm »
I am not sure, Navarra could be called "ubnormally left-wing". Navarra is conservative - but, at the same time, it has a very strong idenity. The place does have a very strong ID. It's the last part to be absorbed into Spain as we know it, it has the ancient Fuero tradition and it has always been recognized as an Autonomous ("Foral") land: it is the only territory to have preserved this status, at least nominally, even under Franco. Notably, even the main right-wing party there (UPN) is strongly regionalist and separate from (though frequently allied with) the pan-Spanish PP. Regionalism in Navarra is not a left-wing feature. When you add the Basque element in the North, the two "non-Spanish" identities are bound to have allegiance of a very significant proportion of the population.
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August 22, 2011, 03:59:30 am »
Interesting maps... No big surprise on regional identities (though I didn't know Andalucia and Extremadura had such a regional identity).
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Quote from: ag on August 21, 2011, 09:59:02 pm
I am not sure, Navarra could be called "ubnormally left-wing". Navarra is conservative - but, at the same time, it has a very strong idenity. The place does have a very strong ID. It's the last part to be absorbed into Spain as we know it, it has the ancient Fuero tradition and it has always been recognized as an Autonomous ("Foral") land: it is the only territory to have preserved this status, at least nominally, even under Franco. Notably, even the main right-wing party there (UPN) is strongly regionalist and separate from (though frequently allied with) the pan-Spanish PP. Regionalism in Navarra is not a left-wing feature. When you add the Basque element in the North, the two "non-Spanish" identities are bound to have allegiance of a very significant proportion of the population.
I know that, if you carefully read what I wrote. I was saying that the poll's sample in Navarre was abnormally left-wing (3.99 on 1 left 10 right scale). Those who say Navarre is leftie need to get their head checked.
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