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J. J.
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« on: August 19, 2011, 01:10:25 PM »

There is a new poll out from Muhlenberg College and Morning Call claiming Barack Obama’s job approval rating is down to a mere 35% in the state of Pennsylvania. in a generic match up, he does hold and edge on a Republican albeit with a ton of undecideds.
PRESIDENT – PENNSYLVANIA (Muhlenberg/Mcall)
Barack Obama (D-inc) 36%
Generic Republican 31%

http://www.mcall.com/news/breaking/mc-pa-obama-poll-20110819,0,1628054.story

Terry Madonna is one of the better pollsters out there, especially for PA.  I'd treat it Quinnapiac for PA.
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J. J.
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« Reply #1 on: August 19, 2011, 01:11:54 PM »

Please stop posting clearly junk polls. You expect us to believe that over 30% of Americans are undecided?

This one is no where near a junk poll.  Madonna's poll have an exceptionally good record.
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« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2011, 01:25:02 PM »

Please stop posting clearly junk polls. You expect us to believe that over 30% of Americans are undecided?

This one is no where near a junk poll.  Madonna's poll have an exceptionally good record.

When neither candidate is even at 40%, it's junk.

No, Madonna doesn't push the undecides, like Rasmussen.  All his early polls show this.


A 380 sample size is quite valid.

This one is not junk, and this is following Quinnipiac poll of two weeks ago.

http://blogs.mcall.com/penn_ave/2011/08/more-pennsylvanians-disapprove-of-obama.html

Obama's national numbers have been declining since then.
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J. J.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2011, 02:48:26 PM »

But look at other pollsters. They don't push leaners and still get over 40% for at least one candidate.

It is common in Madonna's polling, and he ends up with accurate results.
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2011, 02:51:50 PM »

My mistake, Madonna isn't at Muhlenburg.  Not as great a poll as I thought.

I still wouldn't complain too much about the sample size, or the undecides.
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J. J.
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2011, 10:43:12 PM »

Can I get this brand in toilet paper?

Not a great poll, but it has a 5.5 MOE.  The Quinnipiac poll probably had a 3.5 MOE.  It is very possible that both polls are saying the thing, 40-43, possibly with a decline over the last fortnight.
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