Obama down in PA to 35%

[Gustaf]

Please stop posting clearly junk polls. You expect us to believe that over 30% of Americans are undecided?

This one is no where near a junk poll.  Madonna's poll have an exceptionally good record.

When neither candidate is even at 40%, it's junk.

No, Madonna doesn't push the undecides, like Rasmussen.  All his early polls show this.

Sample size: 380

Junk.

A 380 sample size is quite valid.

This one is not junk, and this is following Quinnipiac poll of two weeks ago.

http://blogs.mcall.com/penn_ave/2011/08/more-pennsylvanians-disapprove-of-obama.html

Obama's national numbers have been declining since then.

Quinnipiac's sample size was 1,358 people.  Almost 1,000 more than Muhlenberg College.  380?  Come on.  That is a complete joke of a sample size for a state with over twelve million people.

Junk.

Also, the Quinnipac article you posted said he fares better than both political parties.  Everyone disapproves of everyone.

No offense, but you don't seem to understand how sample sizes work.

[Gustaf]

No offense, but you don't seem to understand how sample sizes work.

It never ceases to amuse me when people just don't understand the actual mathematical logic behind polling, and insist that valid statistical formulae don't apply because they don't "sound correct."

What I find strange is not that people don't know it (we can't all know everything about everything) but that people will comment so confidently on something they obviously don't know anything about. Furthermore, although this is a bit circular, someone who comments confidently on things they don't know must reasonably have been confronted with being wrong multiple times in the past. Yet, they still appear to be doing it.