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Question: Will whoever wins in 2012 win with more electoral votes than Obama won in 2008?
Yes, it's going to be a close one   -29 (61.7%)
No, It'll be a landslide   -9 (19.1%)
It'll be about the same   -9 (19.1%)
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« on: August 20, 2011, 12:52:24 am »
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I personally think this will be a really close election, but I've heard some people assume it's going to be a landslide, one way or the other.

Also, maps are good if you care to share.
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« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2011, 12:59:44 am »
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It's going to be a landslide. Either against Obama, or against the GOP.
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« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2011, 02:57:07 am »
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Who knows?
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« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2011, 04:27:51 am »
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Don't know, of course.  But I think it will be close.  I think it will come down to the nine states below.

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« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2011, 04:55:05 am »
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Though the GOP will win, it will be close, contrary to their rationale.  Don't get me wrong - the Carter analogy is a very good one, and Obama will lose, but the thing is there is a much larger segment of the electorate that is mistrustful of the GOP than in 1980, simply because it is so clear that they created the depression.

This 'resistance' factor will likely prevent the GOP from winning states like PA and MI, though certainly a GOP landslide is a lot more likely than an Obama landslide.

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Pretty obvious scheme - I think the pink and light blue states do have definite 'leans'.. I can't pick out a lean on NH though.. so I put it gray for true tossup.
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« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2011, 08:07:07 am »
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An actual landslide (like, 72 or even 84 dimensions) is quite unlikely. I'm still thinking a 96 repeat (so, a result that looks like a carbon copy of 2008's at first glance, but isn't really) is the most likely outcome.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2011, 09:17:47 am »
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It will be close if Romney is the nominee. Not sure about the others.
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« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2011, 10:47:19 am »
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It will either be close, with a possible Obama victory, or it will be a Republican landslide. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2011, 11:25:06 am »
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2000ish close.
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« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2011, 08:56:44 pm »
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I think that in terms of EV's, it will be close no matter who wins, but the popular vote could swing wildly either way. Solidly partisan states like California and Texas take up a lot of EV's.
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« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011, 09:04:22 pm »
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Seriously?  Who is the Republican candidate that stands a chance?

Rick "Dumb as a Brick" Perry?  Michelle "My Husband is Gay and Only I don't know it" Bachman?  Rick "Google Me" Santorum?  Sarah "Bat-sh**t Crazy" Palin?

Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich seem like the only 2 guys who could make a race of it and they seem to be hated by their own party.  If the GOP had a real candidate they could try ... but they don't so they can't.
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« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2011, 10:11:40 pm »
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I bet 12 will be like 80, 88 and 08: look like a close one for most of the year but end up pretty lopsided.
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« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2011, 04:29:23 am »
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Obama will win with 330+ electoral votes.
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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2011, 01:49:16 pm »
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It will be a close one but if the economy gets better or a double dip recession, each party respectively will win around 300 EV.
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2011, 05:53:18 pm »
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About the same.  We're not staying up for final tallies in CA.
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« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2011, 06:06:02 pm »
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Depends on the GOP nominee and the situation.

If the election took place next week I'd say it would be close with Romney as the nominee, a decent edge for Obama against the others. But there's over a year to go so much can change in both directions.
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« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2011, 06:49:20 pm »
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A month ago I thought it would be close with the edge to Obama.
With a double dip recession looming and Obama approval at 38% in Gallup today, now i expect the GOP nominee would win in a close election.
By next year?  Who knows could end up a blow out either way depending mostly on the economy and partly on the GOP nominee.
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« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2011, 06:54:50 pm »
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For some reason, everyone here has decided that a double dip is a sure thing all of a sudden.  Most economists are ballparking it as a 1 in 3 chance.  That's a big risk of a downturn but still twice as likely not to happen.
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