2012 NDP leadership convention

[RogueBeaver]

Scott Stinson: what policy differences?

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/01/19/scott-stinson-an-ndp-leadership-debate-minus-the-debate/

[RogueBeaver]

Simpson gushes over the field.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/jeffrey-simpson/what-to-like-and-fear-about-the-ndp/article2292765/

Gerry Caplan warns of the inherent dangers.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/second-reading/gerald-caplan/the-establishment-and-the-ndp-a-match-made-in-political-heaven/article2309566/singlepage/#articlecontent

[RogueBeaver]

Mulcair on a membership drive.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/mulcair-launches-ambitious-ndp-membership-drive-in-quebec/article2309865/

[Hatman]

Brian Topp got some more endorsements. The biggest seems to be that of another comedian, Colin Mochrie (I'm sure our British and American friends will recognize him from Whose Line Is It Anyway?)

Topp also got the endosement of former MP Bill Siksay and current MP Chris Charlton

[Marokai]

Brian Topp got some more endorsements. The biggest seems to be that of another comedian, Colin Mochrie (I'm sure our British and American friends will recognize him from Whose Line Is It Anyway?)

I thought he would be better than that.

[RogueBeaver]

Topp: No negative campaigning?

http://www.straight.com/article-589066/vancouver/leadership-candidate-brian-topp-says-ndp-can-win-not-copying-conservatives-and-suppressing-voter-turnou

[Hatman]

Brian Topp got some more endorsements. The biggest seems to be that of another comedian, Colin Mochrie (I'm sure our British and American friends will recognize him from Whose Line Is It Anyway?)

I thought he would be better than that.

Well, Topp was the head of the actor's union. He's going to get all of the actor's endorsements.

But, I think the most coveted celebrity endorsement will be that of the Barenaked Ladies. Who will BNL support? (I think they're the most famous NDP supporters)

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Colin Mochrie appears everywhere.

I don't think that a Canadian can go a single day without seeing that man on TV or hearing about him.

Hell I even knew a guy who saw him walking down the street in London... ENGLAND!

[lilTommy]

Brian Topp got some more endorsements. The biggest seems to be that of another comedian, Colin Mochrie (I'm sure our British and American friends will recognize him from Whose Line Is It Anyway?)

I thought he would be better than that.

Well, Topp was the head of the actor's union. He's going to get all of the actor's endorsements.

But, I think the most coveted celebrity endorsement will be that of the Barenaked Ladies. Who will BNL support? (I think they're the most famous NDP supporters)

Topp musn't have been too happy with Polley endorsing Nash then eh.

Ya i think whomever steven page endorses will get another big boost, and some more national attention.

Now its Dewar on the mild attact against Mulcair...
http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Dewar+calls+Mulcair+clarify+position+bulk+water+exports/6039912/story.html

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Anyone remember when Harper made Iggy and Layton members of the privy council? Said something about security?

Anyone else think that he should make Nash, Dewar, and Mulcair (not to mention Turmel) members as well?

Hell I'd appoint those 4 plus Topp, Ashton, Cullen, Sanganash, Harris, Chisholm, Martin, and Davies.

[lilTommy]

...and more Labour endorsements for Nash:

Gil McGowan of the Alberta Federation of Labour (AFL)
Sid Ryan of the Ontario Federation of Labour (OFL) - the only one i know, multiple Oshawa candidate and an outspoken firebrand, i like him but he is said to rub many people the wrong way.
Lana Payne of the Newfoundland & Labrador Federation of Labour (NLFL)
Rick Clarke of the Nova Scotia Federation of Labour (NSFL)
Mary Lou Cherwaty of the Northern Territories Federation of Labour (NTFL)

[RogueBeaver]

Some policy contrasts.

http://www.punditsguide.ca/2012/01/battlelines-visible-under-the-surface-of-ndp-leadership-race/

[lilTommy]

Did anyone catch Mulcair on 22minutes last nite?
http://www.ipolitics.ca/2012/01/24/22-minutes-sneak-peak-cold-mulcair-will-that-be-a-toque-or-beret/

I thought he performed rather well, was calm and light hearted, laughs and smiles abound. A tad scripted but hes a politician so hes going to talk shop no matter where he is, and on a national broadcast thats his motive is to get his message out. Loved the Che comment, and his slap at Harper; i found he basically negated the dual citizenship stuff. hes already earned the nickname tommy now thanks to Critch.

If i were Nash or Dewar (i think Topps been on before) i'd be asking 22minutes to script them into scenes too now!

[Vasall des Midas]

What kind of show is that? Doesn't exactly seem designed to make its guests look bad.

[lilTommy]

What kind of show is that? Doesn't exactly seem designed to make its guests look bad.

Its a political satire show about canadian/world news/politics... and yes it is designed to poke fun at their guest, and with their skits. The Rick Mercer show is the same type of humour. Along the same lines as the Daily Show
Jack Layton was a regular and was probably the best Federal Leader to be able to joke abouts and in many cases at his own expense; they routinely made fun of how lefty the party was, or how small the caucus was, etc.
If you can laugh and play along, since its all in beau-jest i think you come off looking relatable and likeable.

[Χahar]

Brian Topp got some more endorsements. The biggest seems to be that of another comedian, Colin Mochrie (I'm sure our British and American friends will recognize him from Whose Line Is It Anyway?)

It's weird how there were two Canadian regulars on that show.

[Holmes]

What kind of show is that? Doesn't exactly seem designed to make its guests look bad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17eBELp8tEA

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

Canada has it's own brand of political satire (as does the UK for that matter) that would not work well in the other country, or even other countries in general.

[lilTommy]

Another biggie for Dewar... Maher Arar
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/01/25/pol-ndp-dewar-arar.html

"...Arar is the Canadian citizen who was deported from the United States during a stopover flight and sent to Syria, his country of birth, in 2002. He was jailed for suspected links to terrorism, but never charged with a crime, and faced torture during his imprisonment for a year"

His wife, Monia Mazigh was a NDP candidate in 2004 in Ottawa South (i believe, a riding with a high arab/muslim population)... Could she or ever he be a candidate in 2015?

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

If Dewar wins the leadership, Mazigh could well win Ottawa South in 2015.

[Hatman]

McGuinty isn't going anywhere until he retires. And Mazigh can't win the white middle to middle-upper class vote that dominates Ottawa South. The NDP received 13% in the OSo both in 2004 and 2006, but from very different constituencies. Mazigh did really well in the immigrant communities, but Sader lost most of that support. And despite being an Arab himself, he was able to pick up support from middle class whites who were probably drawn in by the national campaign.

I was just a couple months shy of turning 18 for the 2004 election, and I would have voted for her initially, I learned a couple days before the election that she was against same-sex marriage and I would have voted Green.  I guess it's good I couldn't vote, because that would have been a blemish on my clean voting record

Brian Topp got some more endorsements. The biggest seems to be that of another comedian, Colin Mochrie (I'm sure our British and American friends will recognize him from Whose Line Is It Anyway?)

It's weird how there were two Canadian regulars on that show.

Yes, not to mention a couple of Canadian non regulars as well (Kathy Greenwood).  Actually come to think of it, both Mochrie and Greenwood were briefly on This Hour Has 22 Minutes.

[Senator MaxQue]

she was against same-sex marriage

She has no business being an NDP candidate, then.

[lilTommy]

she was against same-sex marriage

She has no business being an NDP candidate, then.

My thoughts exaclty... i was excited that she was a) female b) minority, both badly need representation... but not at the expense of another group.
Plus McGuinty might be a Liberal leadership candidate... maybe, probably not but you never know.

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

And THAT my friends, is the EXACT attitude I was referring to when I said the NDP has an attitude in it that makes people want to leave.

[RogueBeaver]

Wasn't there a high-profile female MP booted from the NDP caucus for opposing SSM a few years ago?