2012 NDP leadership convention

[minionofmidas]

In the mins of many anglos, you cant be Quebecois with a name like Brian or Topp.

How about "Mulcair"?

[minionofmidas]

"Scrum" is a funny word.

[minionofmidas]

Wanting to vote for a particular candidate for party leader is, perhaps, not the greatest reason to join a political party.

[minionofmidas]

Smid, if I remember well, here, in some parties, to be a candidate to the investiture in a riding, you must sell a fixed number of memberships.

Wow.

[minionofmidas]

Nobody's surprised that membership would expand before a leadership vote, obviously. What's surprising is
a) the degree
b) the brazenness with which recruiting appears to be done, though maybe I'm being misled here
c) judging from the PQ numbers, the speed with which these new members lapse.

[minionofmidas]

Why should Saganash run? You think a man who rose to prominence in Indian tribal politics is going to win you those Saskatchewan seats?

[minionofmidas]

Why should Saganash run? You think a man who rose to prominence in Indian tribal politics is going to win you those Saskatchewan seats?

The problem is he endorsing Topp.

lil Tommy seemed to have a problem with the other part too.

[minionofmidas]

1 out of every 30 Quebec NDP members is an MP

[minionofmidas]

Martin is an Indian name. (A not uncommon Malayali Christian name, that is.)

[minionofmidas]

More to the point, neither of them has a Christian name. They just use Anglo-sounding nicknames vaguely derived from their first names (Harbans and Jogindera).

Oh, and since people are likely confused: Martin Singh is a convert. To Sikhism. He's White.

[minionofmidas]

Meh, seems like I missed 3/4 of the fun.

Teddy, you're the best. Not the best imaginable, but the best actually possible in this imperfect world of ours. 308 does not exist as far as I am concerned.

[minionofmidas]

If Mulcair is your first preference, it doesn't matter where you put Topp, of course.

Wait - this is IRV right? Not Condorcet?

[minionofmidas]

No source for Duncan's endorsement yet, but it was mentioned

I thought we had agreed not to mention that site.

[minionofmidas]

No source for Duncan's endorsement yet, but it was mentioned

I thought we had agreed not to mention that site.

Well, even if that means depriving ourselves of informations?

Where you aquire the info you're sharing with the forum is, of course, your business.

[minionofmidas]

And Topp is dead.

[minionofmidas]

I meant his campaign.

[minionofmidas]

Martin Singh's "endorsement" is his own, ie really just a standin for his place of residence, correct?

[minionofmidas]

So Mulcair, Nash and Dewar are the frontrunners?

There was never a point in this race at which it was not clearly Mulcair's to lose, and it's becoming less likely with every passing day that such a point may yet occur. It would still be Mulcair's to lose even if it were purely a ROC race - though it would be much more likely to actually happen then, and is possible even as is.

[minionofmidas]

If the final ballot came down to Mulcair v. Nash, would an ABM movement spring up or would he win because one didn't organize (think Dion '06)?

Unless I'm reading this very very wrongly (someone please correct me in that case), the vast majority of votes will be IRV votes mailed in advance, so an ABM movement would have to spring up before non-negligible numbers of people start mailing.
Which probably means the media Topp narrative is actually helping Mulcair.

[minionofmidas]

Well online votes could theoretically be either, though you'd have to be glued to your pc. How many votes are these going to be, though? Clearly the people actually voting physically at the convention are a negligible quantity.

[minionofmidas]

Eh, the description I read made it sound like that. You better make double sure.

[minionofmidas]

http://leadership2012.ndp.ca/convention/how-vote

That sounds pretty clear to me. Hmmm... wonder how many people will vote on the day instead... wonder how many people will end up not voting because they intended to vote on the day and then life interfered, too.

[minionofmidas]

It seems as if Mulcair's wife was only a UMP list candidate for the AFE, which is a massive joke which nobody cares about.

That still leaves the UMP part, though. I do think that's somewhat damaging.

[minionofmidas]

What kind of show is that? Doesn't exactly seem designed to make its guests look bad.

[minionofmidas]

Well, I think we can put SSM behind us for now, as is hopefully a moot issue.

It's nice that Canada has moved past that.

Now if Canada also moved past Sault Sainte Marie and into the Upper Midwest...