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« Reply #150 on: September 14, 2011, 05:26:01 pm »
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So both Thoring-Schmidt and Søvndal apperently saying that the 24-year rule will remain in place if (when) they form the next goverment. So they're not even going to get rid of the most stupid of DP's immigration restrictions. Guess that removes any reason I might have had to want a red victory
The 24-year rule stays because the Socialdemocrats want it to. And they have a majority with V, K and O. So yes, but SF doesn't support it, but has made an agreement with SD that removes some of the other bad things introduced under the current government, most importantly the socalled Starthjælp (litt. start help) a heavily reduced social benefit and the ban on asylum seekers working and living outside the asylum centres while their case it being processed (which can take years). Right now they are locked up in the centres for years and years.

So they might change one of the most outlandish horrible immigration policies, but leave the rest. Personally I don't feel that makes up for it. The Social Democrats in Denmark has every fault of the Social Democrats in Sweden, but they even lack the redeming qualities that our Social Democrats has. The fact that they're so unwilling to change the 24-year rule shows that they're just as willing as Venstre and Konservative to throw immigrants under the bus to obtain electoral success and power.  

Cannot disagree with that - but 10 years of DF "in power" has caused quite a change in discourse compared with Sweden.
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« Reply #151 on: September 14, 2011, 05:26:40 pm »
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Hi,

I don't know if anyone would be interested - but I've put together an Excel spreadsheet of the detailed results, down to municipality and polling district, for the 2007 Danish election, coloured by winning party.

If you'd like a copy, please drop me a line at electiongame@yahoo.co.uk - thanks.

(I think this is only the second time I've posted on here, so if any regulars could let me know if I've broken any forum rules by putting an email address on, then thanks and many apologies!)
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« Reply #152 on: September 14, 2011, 08:50:56 pm »
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What are the odds that a new Red government would move to implement marriage equality?
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« Reply #153 on: September 14, 2011, 09:04:42 pm »
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What are the chances that the Right pulls an upset tomorrow?

I'm very interested to see the results from this election and I hope that the Radikale Venstre can carve out a niche in Denmark that the Greens have in the rest of Europe. Social democrats across Europe need a firm kick to remember who they're serving (hint: not austerity-obsessed technocrats). I supposd that thinking from that perspective I should be cheering for the Unity List but I can't stand gimmicky radical left wing parties that are really concerned with pet issues of the wealthy like feminism and being against globalization. The Socialists rubbed me the wrong way with their capitulation on immigration as well.

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« Reply #154 on: September 15, 2011, 12:11:52 am »
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the only phrases I know in Danish are "skal" and "jeg vil kneppe dig" but I think politiken.dk is predicting a 92-83 left majority:

http://politiken.dk/politik/meningsmaaleren/
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« Reply #155 on: September 15, 2011, 04:52:18 am »
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Time for a prediction:

25.0% (2007: 25.5%) A => Socialdemokratiet/Social Democrats
11.2% (2007: 13.0%) F => Socialistisk Folkeparti/Socialist People's Party
10.1% (2007:   5.1%) B => Radikale Venstre/Social Liberal Party
  6.3% (2007:   2.2%) Ø => Enhedslisten/Red-Green Alliance

52.6% (2007: 45.8%) => Left/Opposition Alliance

24.1% (2007: 26.3%) V = Venstre/Liberal Party
11.6% (2007: 13.8%) O = Dansk Folkeparti/Danish People's Party
  5.5% (2007:   2.8%) I = Liberal Alliance
  5.4% (2007: 10.4%) C = Konservative Folkeparti/Conservative People's Party

46.6% (2007: 53.3%) => Right/Government Alliance

0.8% (2007: 0.9%) K = Kristendemokraterne/Christian Democrats
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« Reply #156 on: September 15, 2011, 04:57:53 am »
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Jens, when can we expect exit polls and first results ?

And do you know a TV channel, where we can watch online ?
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« Reply #157 on: September 15, 2011, 05:09:38 am »
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As for me, if I were a Danish voter, I would vote:



today, mostly because of what TheDeadFlagBlues has said. Enhedslisten & Socialistisk Folkeparti are too radical in my opinion while the Social Democrats are for the status quo. Radikale Venstre is right there in the middle and electable. I hope they get close to 10% or more.
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« Reply #158 on: September 15, 2011, 05:38:32 am »
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Ah yes predictions.

ABFØ - 50,7%

A - 25,6%
B - 9,7%
F - 10,1
Ø - 5,3%

VCOI - 48,2%

V - 24,7%
C - 5,6%
O - 12,8%
I - 5,1%

As for who I'd personally vote for if I was a Danish voter. Liberal Alliance, while in no way ideal, is definatley the parliamentry party that are closest to my ideological views while at the same time not having an immigration policy to the right of Arizona Republicans.   

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« Reply #159 on: September 15, 2011, 07:04:38 am »
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Jens, when can we expect exit polls and first results ?

And do you know a TV channel, where we can watch online ?

First exit polls around 6 pm (yes, before the polling places closes, and no, I don't like it).

Silkeborg South and North usually are the bellweather districts.
http://www.kmdvalg.dk/FV%5C2011/F905.htm
http://www.kmdvalg.dk/FV%5C2011/F906.htm

First reliable forecast is around 10 PM, but if it is a close race, it could be after 12 - and as in 1998 depend on the North Atlantic mandates

You can follow the count on this link: http://www.kmdvalg.dk/fv/2011/ It's the official site, and besides the news outlets, the only online source (no local result reports)

Online telly is a bit harder. You can try http://www.net-tv.tk/ but I don't know if it works. TV-2 NEWS and DR Update (we do love our English names Wink )have coverage all through the night.
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« Reply #160 on: September 15, 2011, 07:06:57 am »
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the only phrases I know in Danish are "skal" and "jeg vil kneppe dig" but I think politiken.dk is predicting a 92-83 left majority:

http://politiken.dk/politik/meningsmaaleren/

I think you mean skål - otherwise you are saying "I must" - I will not translate the other frase, because some kids might read this Wink
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« Reply #161 on: September 15, 2011, 07:08:21 am »
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As for me, if I were a Danish voter, I would vote:



today, mostly because of what TheDeadFlagBlues has said. Enhedslisten & Socialistisk Folkeparti are too radical in my opinion while the Social Democrats are for the status quo. Radikale Venstre is right there in the middle and electable. I hope they get close to 10% or more.
What are the chances that the Right pulls an upset tomorrow?

I'm very interested to see the results from this election and I hope that the Radikale Venstre can carve out a niche in Denmark that the Greens have in the rest of Europe. Social democrats across Europe need a firm kick to remember who they're serving (hint: not austerity-obsessed technocrats). I supposed that thinking from that perspective I should be cheering for the Unity List but I can't stand gimmicky radical left wing parties that are really concerned with pet issues of the wealthy like feminism and being against globalization. The Socialists rubbed me the wrong way with their capitulation on immigration as well.



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« Reply #162 on: September 15, 2011, 07:09:46 am »
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What are the odds that a new Red government would move to implement marriage equality?

That will happen - especially SF and RV are very determined and will push it through.
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« Reply #163 on: September 15, 2011, 07:31:14 am »
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Should I make being a clichéd hipster an infractable offence? Grin
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« Reply #164 on: September 15, 2011, 07:34:46 am »
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http://sputnik.tv2.dk/valg

I guess this will have a live stream for the exit polls.

At least it's working for me, even though I understand absolutely nothing.

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« Reply #165 on: September 15, 2011, 08:02:47 am »
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You can follow the count on this link: http://www.kmdvalg.dk/fv/2011/ It's the official site, and besides the news outlets, the only online source (no local result reports)

May I'm acting dump, but is there a way to follow the counting on a national level, not only for each county?
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« Reply #166 on: September 15, 2011, 08:09:17 am »
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You can follow the count on this link: http://www.kmdvalg.dk/fv/2011/ It's the official site, and besides the news outlets, the only online source (no local result reports)

May I'm acting dump, but is there a way to follow the counting on a national level, not only for each county?

http://www.dst.dk/valg/Valg1204271/valgopg/valgopg.htm
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« Reply #167 on: September 15, 2011, 08:12:21 am »
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« Reply #168 on: September 15, 2011, 09:37:12 am »
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KRV, KRV, KRV !!!!
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« Reply #169 on: September 15, 2011, 10:59:15 am »
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Exit Poll in 2 minutes.

http://sputnik.tv2.dk/valg/
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« Reply #170 on: September 15, 2011, 11:01:18 am »
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Here we go ! Good luck left, and may DF burn in hell.
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« Reply #171 on: September 15, 2011, 11:04:48 am »
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LOL.

90-89 for the Right.
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« Reply #172 on: September 15, 2011, 11:07:56 am »
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Urgh.
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« Reply #173 on: September 15, 2011, 11:08:55 am »
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There's also another exit poll from Megafon:

93-86 Left
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« Reply #174 on: September 15, 2011, 11:15:09 am »
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Razor-thin...
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