Denmark parliamentary election: 15-09-2011

[You kip if you want to...]

Regarding "Gucci Helle":

She responded to a heckler at one party meeting: "We can't all look like sh**t."

lol

[rosin]

A zoomable map of Denmark showing individual voting districts and which coalition they voted for as well as - by clicking - the coalitions' numbers in the district - can be found on

dr.dk/Nyheder/Temaer/2011/Valg/2011/09/16/163711.htm

[PASOK Leader Hashemite]

I find it amusingly ironic that one of El Mundo's major titles about the Danish election is the "rebirth of communism" (but the article is quite good)

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/09/16/internacional/1316127636.html

[Sibboleth]

[Shilly]

Needs to be augmented with party strength maps for all parties represented in parliament.

And you shall receive.

As always, right click for full size.

[Jens]

Needs to be augmented with party strength maps for all parties represented in parliament.

And you shall receive.

As always, right click for full size.

This is great - absolut gold. 2 things:
May I use it? I'll give you credit for it of couse
and
Will you do the same for the rest of the country? In case you only can (or will) do a bit, I would very much like to see maps of Københavns Omegns Storkreds (Suburbian Copenhagen) and Nordsjællands Storkreds (North Sealand)

[Shilly]

May I use it? I'll give you credit for it of couse

Feel free!

[Free Palestine]

Was anyone else surprised to learn that Denmark hasn't had a female PM before?

Though of course, they've always seemed -- to me anyways -- like the least "Scandinavian" Scandinavian country.

[lowtech redneck]

Heh.  If anyone is the least bit interested in an "American-style right-winger's" opinion, I'm not entirely displeased with the results.  It seems that the social-liberal party is the king-maker in this election cycle, and they are one of the three long-established Danish parties I would actually vote for.

[Vasall des Midas]

Needs to be augmented with party strength maps for all parties represented in parliament.

And you shall receive.

I love you. In an intensely physical but nonetheless platonic way.

[Swedish Cheese]

Though of course, they've always seemed -- to me anyways -- like the least "Scandinavian" Scandinavian country.

Sweden hasn't had a female PM yet either.

[Sibboleth]

Wonderful maps

[DL]

Can anyone explain why it is that in Danish elections Copenhagen seems vote left compared to the rest of Denmark while innSweden it's the exact opposite and Stockholm is a bit stronghold for the right compared to the rest of the country (I don't know how Oslo is vis a vis Norway)

[Sibboleth]

Can anyone explain why it is that in Danish elections Copenhagen seems vote left compared to the rest of Denmark while innSweden it's the exact opposite and Stockholm is a bit stronghold for the right compared to the rest of the country (I don't know how Oslo is vis a vis Norway)

This gets brought up a lot, but the answer (of course) is that Denmark is not Sweden and Stockholm is not Copenhagen. Or, really, it's to do with historic patterns of industrialisation (I don't think Stockholm was ever really an industrial city, not even in the way that London was - though that's not the same as saying it had no industry), class, wealth and so on, as well as political traditions; Copenhagen city has been run by the left for over a hundred years, while Stockholm has swung between the right and the left on a fairly regular basis (and this was even the case when the Social Democrats were absolutely dominant nationally in the 50s and 60s). These things tend to reinforce themselves.

[Sibboleth]

The party vote maps will come in two seats (Left and Right) but will be posted at the same time. Will take longer because I have to work out the keys.

[DL]

Well what ever the reason - I've always loved Copenhagen as a city (partly because it was actually the first European city I ever visited on a family trip when I was 8 - and needless to say at that age all I cared about was Tivoli Gardens and the mermaid and the pastries!) and their voting pattern is now one more reason to love it.

Now, I can't get this bloody tune out of my mind!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMbbg0k4Xeo&feature=related

[Teddy (IDS Legislator)]

The party vote maps will come in two seats (Left and Right) but will be posted at the same time. Will take longer because I have to work out the keys.

Are all of these districts the same size population?

[Swedish Cheese]

The party vote maps will come in two seats (Left and Right) but will be posted at the same time. Will take longer because I have to work out the keys.

Are all of these districts the same size population?

Not the same sieze, they're local city/community council districs, so they vary quite a bit.   

[Sibboleth]

For bigger images, the magic of right click remains the best option.

[republicanism]

What's the issue with that 3-4 districts in western mid Jutland? They really stick out on the A, V, K maps.

[Ethelberth]

Bible belt I assume

[Formerly Californian Tony]

<3

[ingemann]

Not going to happen, you just as well hope for the tooth fairy, either you get a left government which want a less restrictive immigration policies (through not by much), or you can get a right government which will keep selling out to DPP for a few tax cuts and a continued centralisation of power.

Less restrictive immigration policy, yeah right. The very important word in what you just said is "want". Your new PM might possibly want less restrictive immigration policy, but it's quite clear she is too afraid to challange the xenophobia, and that very little if anything will be changed on that front.  

You can think so if you have a superficial knowledge about how the Danish SD works. Yes the 24 year rule won't be removed*, but the point system will in worst case be replaced with a significant less extreme one, or be removed completely, giving access to any spouse in marriage where both are above 24. The first day after the election the entire left already said even before the government negotiation, that the increased border control will be dropped. Beside that the entire left support a losening of the asylum and immigration rules and that was before and up to the election.
I know it's a popular excuse among some rightwingers to excuse their cooperation with DPP, with SD would behave just as badly, but it's just a bad excuse. SD won't continue the heartless politic of the former government, neither will it open the borders up, it will push pragmatic policies toward immigration. As such some will find it to harsh, but it's ridiculous to compare it to the last 10 year of xenophobia.

*Mostly because it has been a enormous success, Muslim young womens has gone from the least educated group to the most, we have also seen a increase in the number of them on the labour market. 

[ingemann]

Can anyone explain why it is that in Danish elections Copenhagen seems vote left compared to the rest of Denmark while innSweden it's the exact opposite and Stockholm is a bit stronghold for the right compared to the rest of the country (I don't know how Oslo is vis a vis Norway)

The right have traditional been split in the urban Conservative and the rural Venstre, the former more or less set up a autocratic regime in the late 19th century, which meant that they lost legitimacy and slowly collapsed. That together with the industrialisation was mostly focused on Copenhagen and a few other major cities lead to Social Democratic dominance in the major cities. the conservative stayed a viable force in the cities to the last two decades, where infighting, Venstre's takeover of their main policies and Venstre's move into the cities have slowly crushed them, and left them as the low tax party*.
Unless they find a empty niche which doesn't alienate their voters the descline of the party will likely continue. But they have done so before, in the 70ties they were in many ways the same situation as now, and they succedd in not only returning to power, but also get their best results in over a century and making their leader a fondly remembered PM.

*and that collapsed in this election with Liberal Alliance being even more agressive tax cut party, leaving them with only party loyalty as a reason to vote for them.

[redcommander]

Not going to happen, you just as well hope for the tooth fairy, either you get a left government which want a less restrictive immigration policies (through not by much), or you can get a right government which will keep selling out to DPP for a few tax cuts and a continued centralisation of power.

Less restrictive immigration policy, yeah right. The very important word in what you just said is "want". Your new PM might possibly want less restrictive immigration policy, but it's quite clear she is too afraid to challange the xenophobia, and that very little if anything will be changed on that front.  

You can think so if you have a superficial knowledge about how the Danish SD works. Yes the 24 year rule won't be removed*, but the point system will in worst case be replaced with a significant less extreme one, or be removed completely, giving access to any spouse in marriage where both are above 24. The first day after the election the entire left already said even before the government negotiation, that the increased border control will be dropped. Beside that the entire left support a losening of the asylum and immigration rules and that was before and up to the election.
I know it's a popular excuse among some rightwingers to excuse their cooperation with DPP, with SD would behave just as badly, but it's just a bad excuse. SD won't continue the heartless politic of the former government, neither will it open the borders up, it will push pragmatic policies toward immigration. As such some will find it to harsh, but it's ridiculous to compare it to the last 10 year of xenophobia.

*Mostly because it has been a enormous success, Muslim young womens has gone from the least educated group to the most, we have also seen a increase in the number of them on the labour market.  

It will also probably be difficult, and not a priority for Helle to change the Danish immigration system because the SD has such a slim coalition in parliament. Only a few mps who become angered by a perceived loosening of immigration rules, could bring down the government with a vote of no confidence with Venstre and the DPP. I'm not an expert on Danish politics, but it does seem like Denmark has one of the strongest xenophobic sentiments in Europe right now if the DPP's success is anything to go by.