Denmark parliamentary election: 15-09-2011

[Antonio the Sixth]

Finally a country's politics going in the right direction. Good to see the Horrible Coalition sent back into the dustbin it emerged from.

[Antonio the Sixth]

You guys wouldn't happen to have a link to a party test preferably in English, or even Swedish? I'm sort of curious to which party I'd be considered closest to. I'm guessing either Venstre, Radikale Venstre, or Liberal Alliance. I can read written Danish rather decently, but when it comes to politics there's always there will always be strange an hard words that non-speakers will have a hard time understanding.

You wouldn't vote with a party that allies with the far-right ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

You guys wouldn't happen to have a link to a party test preferably in English, or even Swedish? I'm sort of curious to which party I'd be considered closest to. I'm guessing either Venstre, Radikale Venstre, or Liberal Alliance. I can read written Danish rather decently, but when it comes to politics there's always there will always be strange an hard words that non-speakers will have a hard time understanding.

You wouldn't vote with a party that allies with the far-right ?

As opposed to parties that ally with the far-left?

You might have a point if that was anywhere remotely close to the truth.

Depends on one's perspective; I consider the Red-Green alliance parties to be far left, and the Danish People's Party has far less problematic origins than, say, the Socialist People's Party.

You mean the split from the Social Democrats after they didn't overthrow the king after his failed coup in 1920, the support of Trotsky over Stalin, the fact that it founder was thrown in Sachsenhausen under the War, their history of being one of the main group of Freedom Fighters under the War or their split from USSR after the Soviet intervention in Hungary? As far as parties go they have a lot less ugly history than the Conservative, who are successor to Høire, who more or less establised a dictatorship from 1866 to 1901. The primary reason DPP have a less distinct history than SPP, is more or less because all far right parties closed after 1945, so they had to reestablish themselves, when enough people who didn't remember the war became adult and could vote.

That information is quite different from that which is contained on their Wikipedia page (and for the record, supporting Trotsky over Stalin merely makes a group less extreme, not commendable); are you referring to the actions of the Communist Party of Denmark? : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialist_People%27s_Party_(Denmark)#1959.E2.80.9369

I was referring to their origins in the Communist movement, which is a political ideology much farther to the left than anti-immigrant populism is to the right.  For that matter, I don't consider the Danish People's Party to be as far-right as 'Eurocommunism' is far-left.

OK guy, thanks for letting us know.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yay google translator ! There are a few translated questions I couldn't even understand...

[Antonio the Sixth]

*They are strong in urban area, and moderate sized in rural areas, so they benefitted the most of these reforms (which was meant to weaken them)

Gerrymandering backfire ? That's quite interesting, how exactly did it happen ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Thank you Al, that's awesome.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Is this graph accurate ?



I find it quite surprising to see there are so few polls recently.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I don't get the left's apparent downfall... Did something particular happen in these last weeks ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Still, having Venstre > SD and DF > SF is a pretty significant change, no ? Doesn't that mean the left's overall leadis razor-thin ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Here we go ! Good luck left, and may DF burn in hell.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Razor-thin...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Exit Poll in 2 minutes.

http://sputnik.tv2.dk/valg/

There is a Danish TV called Sputnik ? Damn commiez.

Anyways, I'm watching this. Understand nothing, but hopefully they'll show some numbers soon.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Exit Poll in 2 minutes.

http://sputnik.tv2.dk/valg/

There is a Danish TV called Sputnik ? Damn commiez.

Anyways, I'm watching this. Understand nothing, but hopefully they'll show some numbers soon.

They won't show any numbers until at least 10pm, because the voting booths are still open until 8pm (for some strange reason).

Ah, OK... So there's nothing to expect unti 22 CEST ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Turnout is projected to be between 85-90%.

Freedom country.

[Antonio the Sixth]

WTF, Venstre at 30% ?

[Antonio the Sixth]

Where do you see the projections ? Can't watch the live stream cause I'm already watching the French primary debate.

[Antonio the Sixth]

So, that's gonna be 89-86... Pretty disappointing, yeah. It might have been worse (of course) but still. SD losing groung, SF collapsing for some reason, the xenophobic bastards basically unchanged, the Saxobank-funded neoliberal outfit over 5%... It's quite a shame to see this victory only relies on Radikale Venstre (as much as I like it, it's basically a centrist party that doesn't have much to do with the traditional left).

[Antonio the Sixth]

Also Antonio I don't understand why you're sad SD (which have an immigration policy that is more restrictive than Arizona Republicans) loose ground to left-wing parties with principles.

Well, the SD's position is certainly driven by cowardice more than anything else (not that I approve of it, to the contrary I'd probably have voted SF this time), but I think a strong social-democratic party is more likely to preserve and maybe expand Welfare State in a coherent and economically effective way. B is socially liberal, open minded and is the party I'm closest to for any issue except economics ; but on economics, it is a center-right party, and that means the economic center-right accounts for almost 60% of the Danish vote, which is quite sad to me.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Hey, a win's a win, you know? Even if not absolutely ideal. It would have been nice if SD and SF had both done better, but one of the worst government's in Europe is out of office, so, yay.

Yes, yes, I know. I can't, however, feel fully satisfied when 49.7% of the Danish still voted for the nastiest government they've ever had. Why do people always have to be even dumber than predicted ?

Thank you for the awesome maps, anyways.

And still, a very important and very bright spot : an epic turnout. As much as I'm not fond of the way Danish people voted, at least they did vote massively and that's what matters most.

[Antonio the Sixth]